Bug#509378: should use labels for all partitions in fstab

2008-12-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Colin Watson (cjwat...@debian.org):

 I absolutely think that we should be using UUIDs by default for devices
 where there isn't some other stable naming, as Ubuntu does.


I agree.

As I said earlier, we now just need to dinf someone who would commit
self to do it.

I suggest we add this to the release goals for squeeze. Indeed, we
need something like a two-step release goals list:

- the wished featureswhich nobody committed self to implement
- the ones where a volunteer popped up to implement (those would of
course have the entire support of the D-I team...or what remains of
the D-I team)

I even wonder if this static naming system couldn't be the main part
of a GSOC project for 2009?



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Bug#509556: installation-reports: Successful installation

2008-12-23 Thread Andrea Brenci
Package: installation-reports
Severity: wishlist



-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: DVD
Image version: Debian testing - Official RC i386 DVD Binary-1 20081104-07:33
Date: 22 dec 2008

Machine: Notebook Packard Bell EASYNOTE MZ36-U-055
Partitions: df -Tl will do; the raw partition table is preferred
/dev/sda1 ext374318844  26175016  44368556  38% /
tmpfstmpfs  452284 0452284   0% /lib/init/rw
udev tmpfs   1024080 10160   1% /dev
tmpfstmpfs  452284 0452284   0% /dev/shm


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:[O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:[O]
Install tasks:  [O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Overall install:[O]

Comments/Problems:

Installation completed successfully.

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DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Debian GNU/Linux installer
DISTRIB_RELEASE=5.0 (lenny) - installer build 20081029
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
umame -a: Linux debian 2.6.26-1-486 #1 Thu Oct 9 14:22:52 UTC 2008 i686 unknown
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:5a31] 
(rev 01)
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge 
[1002:5a3f]
lspci -knn: 00:12.0 IDE interface [0101]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 Serial 
ATA Controller [1002:4379] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: sata_sil
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: sata_sil
lspci -knn: 00:13.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB 
Host Controller [1002:4374] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ohci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:13.1 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB 
Host Controller [1002:4375] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ohci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:13.2 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 
Host Controller [1002:4373] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus 
Controller [1002:4372] (rev 82)
lspci -knn: 00:14.1 IDE interface [0101]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 IDE 
Controller [1002:4376] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ATIIXP_IDE
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: atiixp
lspci -knn: 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High 
Definition Audio Controller [1002:437b] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: 00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA 
Bridge [1002:4377] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: 00:14.4 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI 
Bridge [1002:4371] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc 
RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M] [1002:5a62]
lspci -knn: 09:02.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: 8139too
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: 8139too, 8139cp
lspci -knn: 09:04.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g 
[1814:0302]
lsmod: Module  Size  Used by
lsmod: ufs63620  0 
lsmod: qnx47684  0 
lsmod: ntfs  180416  0 
lsmod: dm_mod 45384  0 
lsmod: md_mod 65940  0 
lsmod: xfs   446836  0 
lsmod: reiserfs  187008  0 
lsmod: jfs   148060  0 
lsmod: ext3  103432  1 
lsmod: jbd35092  1 ext3
lsmod: vfat8832  0 
lsmod: fat39964  1 vfat
lsmod: ext2   52616  0 
lsmod: mbcache 6656  2 ext3,ext2
lsmod: 8139too20096  0 
lsmod: 8139cp 17024  0 
lsmod: mii 4864  2 8139too,8139cp
lsmod: nls_utf81664  2 
lsmod: isofs  27684  0 
lsmod: nls_base6528  6 ntfs,jfs,vfat,fat,nls_utf8,isofs
lsmod: zlib_inflate   13952  1 isofs
lsmod: rsrc_nonstatic  9344  0 
lsmod: pcmcia_core31760  1 rsrc_nonstatic
lsmod: ide_generic 2432  0 [permanent]
lsmod: 

Bug#509299: installation: Error in Windows-Based Debial Installation

2008-12-23 Thread Robert Millan

[ Please keep CC to the BTS ]

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:48:15PM -0600, Armstrong, Mike wrote:
 
Perhaps that is the problem.  My boot drive is C: and does not have a 
 C:\Windows or a C:\Windows\Temp directory.  My system drive is D: and it does 
 have a D:\Windows\Temp dir.  I DO have a Temp directory in the root of all my 
 filesystems (I always create one).  Also there is %SystemDrive%\Windows\Temp 
 and %SystemDrive%\Users\loginID\Appdata\Local\Temp
With the error message dialog box still open, I did a full search (all 
 logical drives) for cpio.bat == no find.  It looks like the cpio.bat files 
 (and others??) are not being extracted because an assumption is made as to 
 the existence of the parent (temp) directory???

Ok.  Please try this one:

  http://goodbye-microsoft.com/pub/pluginsdir/

and see if it properly creates a pluginsdir.

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Bug#509178: booting Debian installer kernel on SunBlade from CDROM is not really supported (was: Re: Bug#509178: installation-reports: sparc fails to boot 2.6.26: Memory Address not Aligned)

2008-12-23 Thread Joost van Baal
Hi,

Op Sat 20 Dec 2008 om 10:43:17 +0100 schreef Joost van Baal:
 
 This might be the same bug as #509202.
 
 I'll try to setup cu or minicom to collect kernel messages on tuesday,
 while I am at the university again.
 
 FWIW, the boot fails in the same way with
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc1/sparc/iso-cd/debian-testing-sparc-netinst.iso
 , built on 20081104-23:58 :
 
  Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernel
  Loaded kernel version 2.6.26
  Loading initial ramdisk (4284688 bytes at 
  Memory Address not Aligned
 
 I'll try to get it to boot with the latest etch kernel on tuesday.

Which fails too.

On
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.sparc/ch05s03.html#sparc-boot-problems
it says: We recommend to install [SunBlade] systems by netbooting the
installer.

I am confident that'll work out fine: closing this bug.

Bye,

Joost

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Bug#509178: marked as done (installation-reports: sparc fails to boot 2.6.26: Memory Address not Aligned)

2008-12-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

Your message dated Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:42:12 +0100
with message-id 20081223134212.gc8...@dijkstra.uvt.nl
and subject line booting Debian installer kernel on SunBlade from CDROM is not 
really supported (was: Re: Bug#509178: installation-reports: sparc fails to 
boot 2.6.26: Memory Address not Aligned)
has caused the Debian Bug report #509178,
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-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: CD
Image version: 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/sparc/iso-cd/debian-testing-sparc-businesscard.iso
 built on 20081218-10:06
Date: vr dec 19 10:50:07 CET 2008

Machine: SunBlade 2000 SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 (UltraSPARC-III+)
Partitions:


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [E]
Detect network card:[ ]
Configure network:  [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[ ]

Comments/Problems:

Using a VT420 console.  Boots from CDROM, starts SILO Version 1.4.13,
display welcome message (welcome to Debian GNU/Linux lenny! [...]
built on 20081218-10:06 [...]).

 boot:
 Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernel
 Loaded kernel version 2.6.26
 Loading initial ramdisk (4284688 bytes at 
 Memory Address not Aligned

Choosing boot: rescue or boot: expert gives the same.  The machine
boots SunOS 5.8 from its disk0 just fine, so the hardware apparently is
quite OK.

The machine has 2048 MB memory installed.  I'll try to collect output
from report-hw for this bugreport once I have found a working Linux
kernel for this machine.

Thanks for working on the Debian Installer!

Bye,

Joost


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Hi,

Op Sat 20 Dec 2008 om 10:43:17 +0100 schreef Joost van Baal:
 
 This might be the same bug as #509202.
 
 I'll try to setup cu or minicom to collect kernel messages on tuesday,
 while I am at the university again.
 
 FWIW, the boot fails in the same way with
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc1/sparc/iso-cd/debian-testing-sparc-netinst.iso
 , built on 20081104-23:58 :
 
  Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernel
  Loaded kernel version 2.6.26
  Loading initial ramdisk (4284688 bytes at 
  Memory Address not Aligned
 
 I'll try to get it to boot with the latest etch kernel on tuesday.

Which fails too.

On
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.sparc/ch05s03.html#sparc-boot-problems
it says: We recommend to install [SunBlade] systems by netbooting the
installer.

I am confident that'll work out fine: closing this bug.

Bye,

Joost

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Bug#509299: installation: Error in Windows-Based Debial Installation

2008-12-23 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:04:17AM -0600, Armstrong, Mike wrote:
 Yup - the temp dir was created (see attached).  FYI it was empty.

I think I'll have to try reproduce this bug.  Can you give me instructions on
how to setup an environment that has the same problem?

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Bug#509556: marked as done (installation-reports: Successful installation)

2008-12-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

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-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: DVD
Image version: Debian testing - Official RC i386 DVD Binary-1 20081104-07:33
Date: 22 dec 2008

Machine: Notebook Packard Bell EASYNOTE MZ36-U-055
Partitions: df -Tl will do; the raw partition table is preferred
/dev/sda1 ext374318844  26175016  44368556  38% /
tmpfstmpfs  452284 0452284   0% /lib/init/rw
udev tmpfs   1024080 10160   1% /dev
tmpfstmpfs  452284 0452284   0% /dev/shm


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:[O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:[O]
Install tasks:  [O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Overall install:[O]

Comments/Problems:

Installation completed successfully.

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Please make sure that the hardware-summary log file, and any other
installation logs that you think would be useful are attached to this
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Once you have filled out this report, mail it to sub...@bugs.debian.org.

==
Installer lsb-release:
==
DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Debian GNU/Linux installer
DISTRIB_RELEASE=5.0 (lenny) - installer build 20081029
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
umame -a: Linux debian 2.6.26-1-486 #1 Thu Oct 9 14:22:52 UTC 2008 i686 unknown
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:5a31] 
(rev 01)
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge 
[1002:5a3f]
lspci -knn: 00:12.0 IDE interface [0101]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 Serial 
ATA Controller [1002:4379] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: sata_sil
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: sata_sil
lspci -knn: 00:13.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB 
Host Controller [1002:4374] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ohci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:13.1 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB 
Host Controller [1002:4375] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ohci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:13.2 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 
Host Controller [1002:4373] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
lspci -knn: 00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus 
Controller [1002:4372] (rev 82)
lspci -knn: 00:14.1 IDE interface [0101]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 IDE 
Controller [1002:4376] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ATIIXP_IDE
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: atiixp
lspci -knn: 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High 
Definition Audio Controller [1002:437b] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: 00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA 
Bridge [1002:4377] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: 00:14.4 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI 
Bridge [1002:4371] (rev 80)
lspci -knn: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc 
RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M] [1002:5a62]
lspci -knn: 09:02.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: 8139too
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: 8139too, 8139cp
lspci -knn: 09:04.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g 
[1814:0302]
lsmod: Module  Size  Used by
lsmod: ufs63620  0 
lsmod: qnx47684  0 
lsmod: ntfs  180416  0 
lsmod: dm_mod 45384  0 
lsmod: md_mod 

Bug#509299: installation: Error in Windows-Based Debial Installation

2008-12-23 Thread Armstrong, Mike
OK.  I will assume you start with an empty (unpartitioned) hard drive.  I added 
the XP stuff to completely duplicate my HD.  I don't think it is necessary to 
duplicate the problem.  
 
1) Use a Linux live CD or repair disk to create:
   a) Partition 1 (boot volume) -- primary - 750 to 1024 MB 
  Type = 7 (HPFS/NTFS)
  Make it the active partition 
   b) Partition 2 -- Extended - Rest of the HD
   c) Logical drive 5 (For Vista) -- 10 to 20 GB
  Type = 7 (HPFS/NTFS)
   d) Logical Drive 6 (optional for XP) 
  Type = 7 (HPFS/NTFS)
2) (Optional) Install XP into logical drive 6
3) Install Vista into logical drive 5
 
That should do it.  In my scenario I have:
   Part/LogVolType  O/S
   1  NTFS  boot volume
   2  Extended
   5  Linux /boot
   6  Linux /
   7  Linux Linux logical volume
   8  NTFS  Vista
   9  NTFS  Data
  10  NTFS  XP   
 Free space 
-

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:04:17AM -0600, Armstrong, Mike wrote:
 Yup - the temp dir was created (see attached).  FYI it was empty.

I think I'll have to try reproduce this bug.  Can you give me instructions on
how to setup an environment that has the same problem?

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Re: permission to upload hdparm

2008-12-23 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Stephen Gran sg...@debian.org writes:
 +hdparm (8.9-3) unstable; urgency=low
 +
 +  * Fix output formatting for drives configured from /etc/default/hdparm
 +(closes: #494660)
 +  * Add documentation about changing device names (closes: #421087)

This change is OK from the release team's POV. d-i people should ACK it,
though (CCed).

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Bug#509379: firmware not found on virtual floppy or virtual CDROM

2008-12-23 Thread Daniel Pocock



Christian Perrier wrote:

reassign 509379 hw-detect
thanks

Quoting Daniel Pocock (dan...@pocock.com.au):
  

Package: debian-installer

Installing lenny amd64 on a Dell M600 blade server using PXE/netboot method.

bnx2 firmware required for network access.

Installer prompts for a floppy or USB device.

I attempted to mount an ext3 formatted floppy image, and an ISO CDROM  



You attempted to *mount*?

What exactly did you try to do apart from putting the firmware file (or
deb package for the record) on a removable medium and hit Enter when
prompted for firmware?
  

My explanation wasn't thorough enough:

- I saw the prompt to insert the floppy or USB disk

- I used the iDRAC (Dell's iLO solution) to enable the virtual floppy

- I pressed the OK button in d-i, telling it to search for the removable 
media


- d-i told me no removable media found (I can't remember the exact 
message I saw)


- I then opened a shell (Alt-F2) and tried to manually locate the firmware

If you tried some manual actions in a shell in VT2, that might be the
cause of the problem.

  
I only did that after getting errors from d-i.  I wanted to know if the 
removable media was recognised by the installer's kernel.  In this case, 
it was recognised by the kernel as a SCSI device.

If you just did what's instructed (put the files on a floppy, USB
stick or CD, then hit Enter), then something went wrong, really..:-)

In such case, after seeing the error message that the media can't be
located, could you switch to VT2 (Alt+F2), then check if something is
mounted on /media...
  
I will test this on a similar box, as this one has already gone live.  
It may not happen until January now.  Thanks for taking the time to look 
into this issue, I hope the detail I'm providing is useful.


Regards,

Daniel




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Bug#509378: should use labels for all partitions in fstab

2008-12-23 Thread Daniel Pocock



Colin Watson wrote:

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 08:15:55PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote:
  
I believe it would be much safer to use labels for partitions rather 
than using the device nodes.



Automatically assigning labels is a really, really bad idea. Red Hat
tried this and the result was that if you did two Red Hat installations
on the same machine then they would get terribly confused on boot as
there would be two filesystems with LABEL=root. I spoke to the Anaconda
  
That is why my earlier email proposed that we check for duplicates 
before creating fstab - however, I'm not saying it's a perfect solution.




Of course you could try to generate universally unique labels, but this
is a bit silly when we already have UUIDs. Labels should be reserved for
assignment by the system administrator.
  
That is a reasonable argument - in this case, d-i may need to force the 
user to specify (or agree to) a set of labels.



I absolutely think that we should be using UUIDs by default for devices
where there isn't some other stable naming, as Ubuntu does.
  

I think this is reasonable too, as long as we deal with the fstab issues.

Note that pretty much every naming system has its downsides:

  * Traditional device names

Fail when devices are enumerated in a different order at boot, or
when the kernel changes device naming (e.g. IDE - libata).

  
With removable disks becoming more common, this is going to become more 
of an issue.

  * Labels

Good when assigned manually by the system administrator, but
assigning automatically is fraught with problems. Bit-for-bit
filesystem copies will preserve the label, which is fine for backup
and restore but can have surprising results. If you have to
reconstruct a filesystem during disaster recovery you need to
remember to reset the label too (or adjust /etc/fstab).

  
Maybe we can create a hidden file in each filesystem to provide a clue 
about where it was mounted?


IMO the best answer is to use UUIDs by default, but use labels if they
are manually set during installation. This way people who don't care can
have it just work, and people who care can set labels. In Ubuntu we put
a comment above the UUID in /etc/fstab with the original traditional
device name for the device in question, which is often a useful
aide-memoire.

  
The only solution I can see is for d-i to enforce the use of labels for 
/boot and other non-LVM filesystems.  Using the labels with LVM 
filesystems would be nice but not essential.



I think it's best to use the LVM names for LVM filesystems, since they
already form a stable naming scheme.

  
This is all fine for me, with the additional possibility that we create 
a hidden file (maybe .debian-mount or something) to provide a clue about 
where to mount when re-constructing fstab.  It would be nice if such 
information could be kept in filesystem metadata, but the label field is 
only quite small.







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Opening trunk for post-lenny changes?

2008-12-23 Thread Colin Watson
Hi,

IIRC, we never used to keep trunk closed during release periods;
instead, we used to create a branch, do all the release work off that,
and open trunk for post-release changes.

I have to say that I've been feeling quite frustrated with the extended
closure of trunk. There's lots of post-lenny stuff I'd like to check in,
and while I could send patches in bug reports, and have done so in a few
cases of more significant work I've been doing, I'd really like to get
back to being able to commit directly.

I'm not expecting to be able to upload to unstable for some time,
obviously, but could we please open trunk for general commits?

There appear to be rather few discrepancies between /branches/d-i/lenny
and the archive, in any case. They are:

  auto-install
Archive has 1.2, /branches/d-i/lenny has 1.3.
  efi-reader
Archive has 0.9, /branches/d-i/lenny has 0.10 (UNRELEASED).
  linux-kernel-di-m68k-2.6, linux-modules-di-m68k-2.6
Not sure about these - remind me where the archive is again?
/branches/d-i/lenny has 0.96 and 1.00 respectively, the latter
UNRELEASED.
  partconf
Archive has 1.30, /branches/d-i/lenny has 1.31 (UNRELEASED).
  sarge-support
Not in archive, probably correctly. /branches/d-i/lenny has 0.03.
  vmelilo-installer
Probably in the m68k archive, as above, so I don't have the archive
version number. /branches/d-i/lenny has 1.18.
  win32-loader
Archive has 0.6.9, /branches/d-i/lenny also has 0.6.9 but
UNRELEASED.

I don't know which of these are intentional, if any, but it doesn't seem
that hard to roll back the few places where /branches/d-i/lenny is
ahead, and bring win32-loader into sync. If somebody can confirm that
this is desirable then I'm willing to do the legwork.

The only downside to opening trunk for general commits seems to be that
translators would have to start operating on /branches/d-i/lenny as
well. Christian, is this straightforward and can you provide guidance? I
seem to remember that we did this before.


(An alternative would be to have a shared post-lenny branch that we
*all* commit to; distributed revision control is great but the
centralised model is useful for making sure everyone's going in roughly
the same direction, and at any rate I'd want to have things merged to a
primary branch anyway. However, this would make the Bazaar imports I use
rather messier and so I'd prefer us to just open trunk instead. We'd
have the same translation problem in reverse in any case.)

Thanks,

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Re: Opening trunk for post-lenny changes?

2008-12-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 December 2008, Colin Watson wrote:
 IIRC, we never used to keep trunk closed during release periods;
 instead, we used to create a branch, do all the release work off that,
 and open trunk for post-release changes.

At the risk of angering Otavio and Christian, the simple reason is lack of 
actual release *management*, and especially any form of communication 
with the team from the D-I RM.

 There appear to be rather few discrepancies between /branches/d-i/lenny
 and the archive, in any case. They are:

You missed a fairly big number of discrepancies, at least:
- rootskel
- hw-detect
- kernel/*

Otavio is currently on VAC. This will probably need to wait until he is 
back. After that he may prefer to concentrate on releasing RC2 first.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#509238: panic backtrace

2008-12-23 Thread The Eclectic One

Quoting: Christian Perrier bubu...@debian.org
Quoting The Eclectic One (eclec...@sdf.lonestar.org):

 First thought: race condition (the panic message contained a backtrace
 of different threads), so then I tried multiple times with only one
 change at at time: expert mode, regular mode, ethdetect -x, vga=771,
 vga normal.  It turns out that the culprit was the vga option.  With
 vga=771, I get no crash/panic in either expert or regular mode, with

So, in short, in regular mode, it crashes (always at the same place)
but in vga=771 mode, it doesn't, right?

Correct.



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Bug#509379: firmware not found on virtual floppy or virtual CDROM

2008-12-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Daniel Pocock (dan...@pocock.com.au):

 My explanation wasn't thorough enough:

 - I saw the prompt to insert the floppy or USB disk

 - I used the iDRAC (Dell's iLO solution) to enable the virtual floppy

 - I pressed the OK button in d-i, telling it to search for the removable  
 media

 - d-i told me no removable media found (I can't remember the exact  
 message I saw)


I would suggest yo to try enabling the virtual floppy earlier in the
process.

The sequence you describe means that d-i would have to rescan
available devices before looking around and try mounting the ones that
are present.

however, I'm unsure (and can't check right now) if such a scan is done
between the moment you're prompted and the failure message.

So, imho, you'd get better chances if you enable your virtual floppy
as early as possible.



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Re: Opening trunk for post-lenny changes?

2008-12-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
 On Wednesday 24 December 2008, Colin Watson wrote:
  IIRC, we never used to keep trunk closed during release periods;
  instead, we used to create a branch, do all the release work off that,
  and open trunk for post-release changes.
 
 At the risk of angering Otavio and Christian, the simple reason is lack of 
 actual release *management*, and especially any form of communication 
 with the team from the D-I RM.

This is not angering. Could we just accept that we're dramatically
short of manpower and that not everything is done the perfect way?

I've personnally accepted this for a while and, though very
frustrating, I think it is still motivating to try keeping the hype at
a sufficient level for D-I not to fall in deep sleep mode (this is
basically the point of /me sending a non perfect Bits from D-I mail
even though I'm not the D-I RM).

About Colin's remarks, my personal opinion is that it could be time to
resync the lenny branch with trunk and work off that lenny branch,
yes. Definitely, even.

Do *I* want to do this? Nofor a very simple reason: there's is way
too much risk that I mess things around by lack of full time
commitment. As you recently pointed, I still succeed in messing up
changelogs from time to time, so you can imagine if I try to play
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Bug#389881: Bug#509378: should use labels for all partitions in fstab

2008-12-23 Thread Christian Perrier
reassign 509378 partman-target
forcemerge 509378 389881
thanks

I now have the right reference:

http://bugs.debian.org/389881

...is roughly the same suggestion than the one you're doing right
now. It talks about SCSI devices but the bug discussion makes it clear
that persistent naming goes much beyond SCSI devices.

There is even a patch proposed by David Härdeman (who was very active
implementing encrypted partitions support in the past)...but
unfortunately, nobody cared to try incorporating this in D-I, when we
moved to the Lenny D-I release cycle..:-(

It is even listed in the D-I Lenny release goals:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/LennyGoals

As you'll see by looking around this release goals list, there's still
a lot that we *didn't* do.




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Processed: Re: Bug#509378: should use labels for all partitions in fstab

2008-12-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:

 reassign 509378 partman-target
Bug#509378: should use labels for all partitions in fstab
Bug reassigned from package `partman-base' to `partman-target'.

 forcemerge 509378 389881
Bug#509378: should use labels for all partitions in fstab
Bug#389881: SCSI device renaming breaks install
Bug#225802: disk device names not persistant from install to target system
Bug#295134: disk device names not persistant from install to target system
Bug#308565: disk device names not persistant from install to target system
Forcibly Merged 225802 295134 308565 389881 509378.

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Bug#509238: panic backtrace

2008-12-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting The Eclectic One (eclec...@sdf.lonestar.org):
 
 Quoting: Christian Perrier bubu...@debian.org
 Quoting The Eclectic One (eclec...@sdf.lonestar.org):
 
  First thought: race condition (the panic message contained a backtrace
  of different threads), so then I tried multiple times with only one
  change at at time: expert mode, regular mode, ethdetect -x, vga=771,
  vga normal.  It turns out that the culprit was the vga option.  With
  vga=771, I get no crash/panic in either expert or regular mode, with
 
 So, in short, in regular mode, it crashes (always at the same place)
 but in vga=771 mode, it doesn't, right?
 
 Correct.


And I assume that you get no crash as well if you're using the
graphical installer.

I'm puzzled to reassign this bug report. This is obviously a race
condition somewhere. Probably a weird kernel issue but investigating
further istricky and I fear that this bug report might remain
uninvestigated further for quite a while until it magically solves
in the future with a new kernel (though probably not for Lenny).

I propose documenting this in the errata file, at the minimum.



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Re: permission to upload hdparm

2008-12-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt (h...@ftwca.de):
 Stephen Gran sg...@debian.org writes:
  +hdparm (8.9-3) unstable; urgency=low
  +
  +  * Fix output formatting for drives configured from /etc/default/hdparm
  +(closes: #494660)
  +  * Add documentation about changing device names (closes: #421087)
 
 This change is OK from the release team's POV. d-i people should ACK it,
 though (CCed).


As Otavio is VAC for some time, and as, from the above changelog, I see no
objection, in name of the remainings of the D-I team, I can say :
go...




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