Re: updating kernel-wedge

2009-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 26 March 2009, Kenshi Muto wrote:
> Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> > > Your patch looks great but to solve the conflict, please add a
> > > led-modules (any better suggestion?), and make both depends on it.
> > > To make it buildable.
> >
> > How big is it? What are the dependencies?
> > If it is small enough (which seems likely, why not add it to core or
> > something?
>
> Well, led-class.ko is 10049 bytes and make core-modules.udeb size
> from 5590 bytes to 7820 bytes. If it is acceptable, I'll commit
> my changeset.

That makes it not the smallest module, but it's not all that large either. 
The cost of adding another udeb will probably be higher (especially if it 
only contains a single module) and I expect quite a few udebs will end up 
depending on it with future kernel versions.

Of course we should not make core into some general dumping ground, but 
IMHO this one does fit its purpose fairly well (ensure availability of 
relatively small, low-level, common modules to avoid explosion of the 
number of udebs and overly complicated dependencies).

If it can be included in an existing udeb other than core which would mean 
it does not get included in (most) initrds while still solving the 
conflict and not be totally random and silly, then that might be 
preferred. But otherwise I think core is the best option here.

Cheers,
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Re: updating kernel-wedge

2009-03-25 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi,

At 25 Mar 09 19:01:07 GMT,
Frans Pop wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> > Your patch looks great but to solve the conflict, please add a
> > led-modules (any better suggestion?), and make both depends on it. To
> > make it buildable.
> 
> How big is it? What are the dependencies?
> If it is small enough (which seems likely, why not add it to core or 
> something?

Well, led-class.ko is 10049 bytes and make core-modules.udeb size
from 5590 bytes to 7820 bytes. If it is acceptable, I'll commit
my changeset.

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Re: d-i lab

2009-03-25 Thread Joey Hess
Otavio:
> If someone else wants to take it, I'll be available to help to understand
> digress and like. If noone shows insterest, I prefer to do that then
> lose d-i lab.

Note that we've *already* lost the lab. You can't look at the lab report and
get any useful info about whether d-i is working.

However, if you or someone else would like to resuscitate the lab, that's fine.
I think it would make sense to start with the emulated system tests, since
control of the "hydra" server can easily be transferred from me. Also,
there are several architectures that are not yet tested, but should be usable
in qemu now, including arm.

I doubt it's worth the expense of shipping the rack of physical test machines
to a different continent, and I don't think it's really possible to do useful
testing with them entirely remotely. So I'd like to go ahead with taking
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Bug#521224: console-setup: [INTL:pt] Updated Portuguese translation for debconf messages

2009-03-25 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Package: console-setup
Version: 1.30
Tags: l10n, patch
Severity: wishlist

Updated Portuguese translation for console-setup's debconf messages.
Translator: Pedro Ribeiro 
Feel free to use it.

For translation updates please contact 'Last Translator' or the
Portuguese Translation Team .


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# Portuguese translation for console-setup debconf messages.
# Copyright (C) 2007-2009 Pedro Ribeiro 
# This file is distributed under the same license as the console-setup package.
# Pedro Ribeiro , 2009
#
msgid ""
msgstr ""
"Project-Id-Version: console-setup 1.30\n"
"Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: console-se...@packages.debian.org\n"
"POT-Creation-Date: 2009-03-19 18:29+0100\n"
"PO-Revision-Date: 2009-03-20 12:00+\n"
"Last-Translator: Pedro Ribeiro \n"
"Language-Team: Portuguese \n"
"MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8\n"
"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"

#. Type: text
#. Description
#. Main menu item. Please keep below 55 columns
#: ../console-setup.templates:2001
msgid "Configure the keyboard"
msgstr "Configure o teclado"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid ". Arabic"
msgstr ". Árabe"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Armenian"
msgstr "# Arménio"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Cyrillic - KOI8-R and KOI8-U"
msgstr "# Cirílico - KOI8-R e KOI8-U"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Cyrillic - non-Slavic languages"
msgstr "# Cirílico - línguas não eslavas"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Cyrillic - Slavic languages (also Bosnian and Serbian Latin)"
msgstr "# Cirílico - Línguas eslavas (também Bósnio e Sérvio Latino)"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid ". Ethiopic"
msgstr ". Etíope"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Georgian"
msgstr "# Georgiano"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Greek"
msgstr "# Grego"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Hebrew"
msgstr "# Hebraico"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Lao"
msgstr "# Lao"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Latin1 and Latin5 - western Europe and Turkic languages"
msgstr "# Latin1 e Latin5 - línguas da Europa ocidental e turcas"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Latin2 - central Europe and Romanian"
msgstr "# Latin2 - Europa central e Romeno"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Latin3 and Latin8 - Chichewa; Esperanto; Irish; Maltese and Welsh"
msgstr "# Latin3 e Latin8 - Chichewa; Esperanto: Irlandês; Maltês e Galês"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Latin7 - Lithuanian; Latvian; Maori and Marshallese"
msgstr "# Latin7 - Lituano; Letão; Maori e Marshallês"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid ". Latin - Vietnamese"
msgstr ". Latin - Vietnamita"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid "# Thai"
msgstr "# Tailandês"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid ". Combined - Latin; Slavic Cyrillic; Hebrew; basic Arabic"
msgstr ". Combinado - Latino; Cirílico Eslavo; Hebraico; Árabe básico"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid ". Combined - Latin; Slavic Cyrillic; Greek"
msgstr ". Combinado - Latino; Cirílico Eslavo; Grego"

#. Type: select
#. Choices
#: ../console-setup.templates:3001
msgid ". Combined - Latin; Slavic and non-Slavic Cyrillic"
msgstr ". Combinado - Latino; Cirílico Eslavo e não Eslavo"

#. Type: select
#. Description
#: ../console-setup.templates:3002
msgid "Character set to support:"
msgstr "Conjunto de caracteres a suportar:"

#. Type: select
#. Description
#: ../console-setup.templates:3002
#| msgid "Set of characters that should be supported by the console font:"
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msgstr ""
"Escolha, por favor, o conjunto de caracteres que deve ser suportado pelo tipo "
"de letra da consola:"

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#. Description
#: ../console-setup.templates:3002
msgid ""
"If you don't use a framebuffer, the choices that start with \".\" will "
"reduce the number of available colors on the console."
msgstr ""
"Se não usar framebuffer as opções que começam com \".\" irão reduzir o "
"número de cores disponíveis para a consola."

#. Type: select
#. Description
#: ../console-setup.templates:4001
msgid "Keyboard model:"
msgstr "Modelo de teclado:"

#. Type: select
#. Description
#: ../console-setup.templates:5001
msgid "Origin of the keyboard:"
msgstr "Origem do teclado:"

#. Type: select
#. Description
#: ../console-setup.templates:6001
msgid "Keyboar

Bug#520711: installation-reports: The squeeze netinst doesn't find archive

2009-03-25 Thread Rick Thomas


On Mar 25, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote:

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Christian Perrier  
 wrote:

Quoting Otavio Salvador (ota...@ossystems.com.br):
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rick Thomas  
 wrote:
When I switch to the -F2 console and try to do a "wget", I  
get a

segmentation fault.


Please take a look on the syslog of the installer and if possible
attach it to this
bug report (please, gzip it).



Isn't the wget segfault mentioned by Rick enough to explain the
problem?


I was interested to check if we had any kernel trace on syslog
or something like that.



Two thoughts:

1) Is there some debugging parameter you'd like me to set so that it  
gives more information?  I have a spare machine I can use for testing  
this, so I can give good turnaround on test-cases.



2) Since this bug renders the install CDs (certainly "buisnesscard",  
and for most practical purposes "netinst") completely unusable for  
their intended purpose, can we raise the severity of this bug to  
(e.g.) "Serious"?




Thanks!

Rick



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Re: updating kernel-wedge

2009-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Your patch looks great but to solve the conflict, please add a
> led-modules (any better suggestion?), and make both depends on it. To
> make it buildable.

How big is it? What are the dependencies?
If it is small enough (which seems likely, why not add it to core or 
something?


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Bug#521122: console-setup: fails to install: "eval: line 2125: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'"

2009-03-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 20:09 +0200, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:07:33AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks, the problem was the space in the XkbOptions value which my
> > script didn't handle.  The attached patch fixes that.
> 
> It is not only your script - the parsing of console-setup doesn't allow 
> spaces between options so this will require a patch too.

It should be easy to remove the spaces directly from the awk script, if
you want to avoid touching other parts of console-setup for that.  Let
me know if I should prepare an updated patch.

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Bug#521122: console-setup: fails to install: "eval: line 2125: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'"

2009-03-25 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:07:33AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> 
> Thanks, the problem was the space in the XkbOptions value which my
> script didn't handle.  The attached patch fixes that.

It is not only your script - the parsing of console-setup doesn't allow 
spaces between options so this will require a patch too.

Anton Zinoviev




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Re: d-i lab

2009-03-25 Thread Luk Claes
Otavio Salvador wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Christian Perrier  wrote:
>> Quoting Otavio Salvador (ota...@ossystems.com.br):
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
 I'm sure it will suprise no one when I say that the "d-i lab" automatic
 test stuff I used to do is broken and rotting[1]. I don't think there's
 any point in keeping it going in its current state, so I plan to turn it
 off.
>>> I'd like to try to take the maintainence of it over if you accept it.
>>>
>>> I belive it is quite useful and I used it here at company and then
>>> I can try to make it work again. I won't be able to do that until began
>>> of April but if it is not a hurry to you, I can do that.
>>
>> Couldn't this be a good idea to propose to someone *else* who would
>> like to contribute to D-I ?
> 
> If someone else wants to take it, I'll be available to help to understand
> digress and like. If noone shows insterest, I prefer to do that then
> lose d-i lab.
> 
>> Thus, it would save *your* time to work on release management..:-)
>>
>> (ref: last team meeting...)
> 
> Yes, that would be nice but someone needs to show interest on it.

I would be happy to help out, though would prefer a team effort, what do
you think?

Cheers

Luk


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Bug#521196: debootstrap does not support https transport

2009-03-25 Thread Cody A.W. Somerville
Package: debootstrap
Version: 1.0.12
debootstrap does not support https transport although it probably could.
When you attempt to debootstrap using a mirror served over https,
debootstrap will fail complaining about the url being an unknown location.
This is due to debootstrap specifically looking for "http:// " in
the url.

This bug was originally reported in launchpad at
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/+bug/348528

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Re: updating kernel-wedge

2009-03-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
Kenshi Muto  writes:


[...]

> I noticed ath[59]k drivers conflicted with sdhci in mmc-modules to want
> to use led-class.

[...]

Your patch looks great but to solve the conflict, please add a
led-modules (any better suggestion?), and make both depends on it. To
make it buildable.

Doing it, we can commit it into d-i svn.

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Re: updating kernel-wedge

2009-03-25 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi,

At 23 Mar 09 14:53:21 GMT,
Otavio Salvador wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Kenshi Muto  wrote:
> >> * Otavio Salvador  [2009-03-21 17:02]:
> >> > This is the first proposal of patches to update our kernel to
> >> > 2.6.29. I belive we'll still have changes to do on this set of patches
> >> > before really commiting it but it would be nice if porters could take
> >> > a look at them and propose patches for any remaining issues.
> >>
> >> These changes look good to me.  I suggest you commit them to SVN.
> >
> > From my experience when I built 2.6.28 kernel d-i, I'd like to ask to add:
> 
> Mind to prepare a patch for it?

OK, here it is.
I noticed ath[59]k drivers conflicted with sdhci in mmc-modules to want
to use led-class.

Index: debian/changelog
===
--- debian/changelog(revision 57983)
+++ debian/changelog(working copy)
@@ -16,6 +16,12 @@
   * ide-modules: Include ide-gd_mod (for ATA/ATAPI disks and floppy;
 ide-disk got renamed.)
 
+  [ Kenshi Muto ]
+  * nic-extra-modules: make eepro100 optional.
+   add jme, enic, be2net, myri10ge, sc92031.
+  * nic-wireless-modules: add ath9k, iwlagn.
+  * nic-usb-modules: add rtl8187.
+
  -- Otavio Salvador   Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:26:31 -0300
 
 kernel-wedge (2.53) unstable; urgency=low
Index: modules/nic-wireless-modules
===
--- modules/nic-wireless-modules(revision 57983)
+++ modules/nic-wireless-modules(working copy)
@@ -28,3 +28,5 @@
 # Crypto modules needed for ieee80211 WEP support
 ecb ?
 arc4 ?
+ath9k ?
+iwlagn ?
Index: modules/nic-extra-modules
===
--- modules/nic-extra-modules   (revision 57983)
+++ modules/nic-extra-modules   (working copy)
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 dmfe
 e2100 ?
 eepro ?
-eepro100
+eepro100 ?
 enc28j60
 forcedeth
 hamachi
@@ -98,3 +98,8 @@
 atl1e ?
 r6040
 sfc
+jme ?
+enic ?
+be2net ?
+myri10ge ?
+sc92031 ?
Index: modules/nic-usb-modules
===
--- modules/nic-usb-modules (revision 57983)
+++ modules/nic-usb-modules (working copy)
@@ -12,3 +12,4 @@
 zd1211rw ?
 rndis_wlan ?
 rtl8180 ?
+rtl8187 ?


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Re: d-i installation on embedded devices (was Re: [pkg-fso-maint] MTD Installation)

2009-03-25 Thread Per Andersson
Hey there!

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Luca Capello  wrote:
>> 2009/3/25 Joachim Breitner :
 Maybe some other thread discusses this already,
 but why don't you use d-i for installation?
>>>
>>> Simplicity. We wanted to get started as fast as possible. But given the
>>> ever increasing complexity of install.sh, this should be the goal, yet.
>>>
 Could porting d-i to GTA02 (and GTA01 but I don't
 have one of those) be worth doing as a GSoC project?
>
> For anyone working on/for the pkg-fso, thanks to Arne Anka [1] I can
> borrow/offer a GTA01 (if needed the full development kit, i.e. with a
> debug board as well).  Since I was in contact with people interested to
> sell their GTA01, I can also find more than one device, if needed.  This
> is *only* for Debian-related work, in any field (e.g. X11, ALSA, GPS,
> etc.) and not only for d-i.

Cool, a d-i knowledgable person (willing to mentor)
could borrow a handset then.


>>> Quite possible – please raise that idea on the pkg-fso-maint list. Some
>>> others have expressed interested in trying to port d-i to the FreeRunner
>>> (Steffen Moeller, IIRC). He’s subscribed to the list.
>
> I am interested as well, and this is one of the first item in my pkg-fso
> ToDo list, it seems that other stuff (kernel, bug fixing and so on) is
> keeping me away from it.

I am not speaking to deaf ears then, good. :-)


>>> Do you know any d-i knowledgeable person that has a FreeRunner and would
>>> be able to mentor this project?
>>
>> @debian-boot: Anyone up for this?
>
> NB, I have no knowledge at all WRT how the GSoC work, but I am not sure
> we can still change the different projects we submitted.

Any proposal is accepted and then ranked on after
proposal deadlines. No projects are written in stone
until after the proposal deadline. (Proposal deadline
is 3 April IIRC.)


> In any case, I think that the MTD project should still have an higher
> priority, because:
>
> - its use is wider (e.g. for NAS devices)
>
> - it involves more people (not only the pkg-fso crew), thus it is
>  probably easier to have advices

I agree with both points, just an idea I had (as a
backup proposal) if mentoring becomes a problem
with the MTD project.

And I would really like to work on d-i for Openmoko
phones as well of course.


> - ATM no official Debian kernel can be used on the FreeRunner and I
>  really do not have ETA about when one will be available (Openmoko
>  has now switched to 2.6.29 and the last time I checked for IIRC 2.6.26
>  they had something like more than 100 patches)

This would be a deal breaker...


>> I have a FreeRunner myself.
>>
>> Without having done any research at all yet, I think
>> that similar infrastructure to how Debian Installer is
>> booted and installed on NAS devices could be used.
>> The bootstrapping part seems very similar to the
>> GSoC project I did last year, since the FreeRunner
>> uses U-Boot as well. (Of course it would have to be
>> made to work with the Qi bootloader as well which
>> widens the scope.)
>
> Disclaimer: everything below is my personal opinion.
>
> I think we clearly need to have a plan, divided into two phases:
>
> 1) installation into the microSD
>
>   a. booting d-i on the FR, which is an easy task given that we must
>      use the pkg-fso kernel package [2].
>
>   b. starting the graphical installer with a virtual keyboard, since
>      there is no physical keyboard, thus the textual installer cannot
>      be used.

And/or accept SSH connections to the installer. As is
done for NAS devices.


>      After my talk at last FOSDEM'09 [3], I talked with Jeremy Bobbio about
>      that: from a quick view he had at d-i, this should not be so
>      difficult either, given that d-i already uses the framebuffer.
>
>   c. installing everything on the microSD, which means that d-i should
>      not use the microSD at all, thus it should probably be run from a
>      ramdisk.

It should be possible to write d-i kernel and ramdisk
to MTD flash and boot from that, not touching
the microSD.


>   d. deafening some tasks for tasksel and then installing everything.
>
>   e. modifying the boot loader.
>
>      On this point, I am a strong opponent of Qi [4] (the now default
>      bootloader used by Openmoko), because it lacks at least one very
>      important feature U-Boot has: a menu.  This is why I think that
>      any effort should firstly target U-Boot and then Qi, which AFAIK
>      is ATM available only for the Openmoko.

I agree with this opinion.


> 2) installation into the MTD
>
>   Given that everything above will be already done, we will have only
>   two showstopper:
>
>   a. MTD support in d-i.
>
>      This is also why I consider implementing MTD in d-i of an higher
>      priority than adapting d-i to the FR.
>
>   b. disk space.
>
>      The FR (GTA02) has 256MB of flash memory, while the 1973 (GTA01)
>      only 64MB [5].  In both case, there is no way we can fit a normal
>      Debian system on it,

d-i installation on embedded devices (was Re: [pkg-fso-maint] MTD Installation)

2009-03-25 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there!

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:45:09 +0100, Per Andersson wrote:
> (Cc:ing debian-boot.)

Done, but please keep the pkg-fso-maint@ mailing list cc:ed as well,
TIA.  Doing so, there is no need to cc: me.  I also cc:ed the
debian-embedded@ mailing list, people from there should be interested as
well.

I changed the title to something more appropriate.

> 2009/3/25 Joachim Breitner :
>>> Maybe some other thread discusses this already,
>>> but why don't you use d-i for installation?
>>
>> Simplicity. We wanted to get started as fast as possible. But given the
>> ever increasing complexity of install.sh, this should be the goal, yet.
>>
>>> Could porting d-i to GTA02 (and GTA01 but I don't
>>> have one of those) be worth doing as a GSoC project?

For anyone working on/for the pkg-fso, thanks to Arne Anka [1] I can
borrow/offer a GTA01 (if needed the full development kit, i.e. with a
debug board as well).  Since I was in contact with people interested to
sell their GTA01, I can also find more than one device, if needed.  This
is *only* for Debian-related work, in any field (e.g. X11, ALSA, GPS,
etc.) and not only for d-i.

>> Quite possible – please raise that idea on the pkg-fso-maint list. Some
>> others have expressed interested in trying to port d-i to the FreeRunner
>> (Steffen Moeller, IIRC). He’s subscribed to the list.

I am interested as well, and this is one of the first item in my pkg-fso
ToDo list, it seems that other stuff (kernel, bug fixing and so on) is
keeping me away from it.

>> Do you know any d-i knowledgeable person that has a FreeRunner and would
>> be able to mentor this project?
>
> @debian-boot: Anyone up for this?

NB, I have no knowledge at all WRT how the GSoC work, but I am not sure
we can still change the different projects we submitted.

In any case, I think that the MTD project should still have an higher
priority, because:

- its use is wider (e.g. for NAS devices)

- it involves more people (not only the pkg-fso crew), thus it is
  probably easier to have advices

- ATM no official Debian kernel can be used on the FreeRunner and I
  really do not have ETA about when one will be available (Openmoko
  has now switched to 2.6.29 and the last time I checked for IIRC 2.6.26
  they had something like more than 100 patches)

> I have a FreeRunner myself.
>
> Without having done any research at all yet, I think
> that similar infrastructure to how Debian Installer is
> booted and installed on NAS devices could be used.
> The bootstrapping part seems very similar to the
> GSoC project I did last year, since the FreeRunner
> uses U-Boot as well. (Of course it would have to be
> made to work with the Qi bootloader as well which
> widens the scope.)

Disclaimer: everything below is my personal opinion.

I think we clearly need to have a plan, divided into two phases:

1) installation into the microSD

   a. booting d-i on the FR, which is an easy task given that we must
  use the pkg-fso kernel package [2].

   b. starting the graphical installer with a virtual keyboard, since
  there is no physical keyboard, thus the textual installer cannot
  be used.

  After my talk at last FOSDEM'09 [3], I talked with Jeremy Bobbio about
  that: from a quick view he had at d-i, this should not be so
  difficult either, given that d-i already uses the framebuffer.

   c. installing everything on the microSD, which means that d-i should
  not use the microSD at all, thus it should probably be run from a
  ramdisk.

   d. deafening some tasks for tasksel and then installing everything.

   e. modifying the boot loader.

  On this point, I am a strong opponent of Qi [4] (the now default
  bootloader used by Openmoko), because it lacks at least one very
  important feature U-Boot has: a menu.  This is why I think that
  any effort should firstly target U-Boot and then Qi, which AFAIK
  is ATM available only for the Openmoko.

2) installation into the MTD

   Given that everything above will be already done, we will have only
   two showstopper:

   a. MTD support in d-i.

  This is also why I consider implementing MTD in d-i of an higher
  priority than adapting d-i to the FR.

   b. disk space.

  The FR (GTA02) has 256MB of flash memory, while the 1973 (GTA01)
  only 64MB [5].  In both case, there is no way we can fit a normal
  Debian system on it, especially considering that we should target
  the FreeSmartphone.Org initiative [6], which ATM relies on Python.

  The solution in this case is EmDebian.

Given the above, if it was not clear yet, I have a clear vision of what
everything should move.  Not that this vision is the correct one, but I
think it makes sense.  Obviously, I am available to discuss it: I am not
looking for glory, on the contrary I would like that we progress by
small and well-defined steps :-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

Footnotes: 
[1] 
http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2009-Febr

Bug#520711: installation-reports: The squeeze netinst doesn't find archive

2009-03-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Christian Perrier  wrote:
> Quoting Otavio Salvador (ota...@ossystems.com.br):
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
>> > When I switch to the -F2 console and try to do a "wget", I get a
>> > segmentation fault.
>>
>> Please take a look on the syslog of the installer and if possible
>> attach it to this
>> bug report (please, gzip it).
>
>
> Isn't the wget segfault mentioned by Rick enough to explain the
> problem?

I was interested to check if we had any kernel trace on syslog
or something like that.

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Re: d-i lab

2009-03-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Christian Perrier  wrote:
> Quoting Otavio Salvador (ota...@ossystems.com.br):
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
>> > I'm sure it will suprise no one when I say that the "d-i lab" automatic
>> > test stuff I used to do is broken and rotting[1]. I don't think there's
>> > any point in keeping it going in its current state, so I plan to turn it
>> > off.
>>
>> I'd like to try to take the maintainence of it over if you accept it.
>>
>> I belive it is quite useful and I used it here at company and then
>> I can try to make it work again. I won't be able to do that until began
>> of April but if it is not a hurry to you, I can do that.
>
>
> Couldn't this be a good idea to propose to someone *else* who would
> like to contribute to D-I ?

If someone else wants to take it, I'll be available to help to understand
digress and like. If noone shows insterest, I prefer to do that then
lose d-i lab.

> Thus, it would save *your* time to work on release management..:-)
>
> (ref: last team meeting...)

Yes, that would be nice but someone needs to show interest on it.

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Re: [pkg-fso-maint] MTD Installation

2009-03-25 Thread Per Andersson
(Cc:ing debian-boot.)

2009/3/25 Joachim Breitner :
>> Maybe some other thread discusses this already,
>> but why don't you use d-i for installation?
>
> Simplicity. We wanted to get started as fast as possible. But given the
> ever increasing complexity of install.sh, this should be the goal, yet.
>
>> Could porting d-i to GTA02 (and GTA01 but I don't
>> have one of those) be worth doing as a GSoC project?
>
> Quite possible – please raise that idea on the pkg-fso-maint list. Some
> others have expressed interested in trying to port d-i to the FreeRunner
> (Steffen Moeller, IIRC). He’s subscribed to the list.
>
> Do you know any d-i knowledgeable person that has a FreeRunner and would
> be able to mentor this project?

@debian-boot: Anyone up for this?

I have a FreeRunner myself.

Without having done any research at all yet, I think
that similar infrastructure to how Debian Installer is
booted and installed on NAS devices could be used.
The bootstrapping part seems very similar to the
GSoC project I did last year, since the FreeRunner
uses U-Boot as well. (Of course it would have to be
made to work with the Qi bootloader as well which
widens the scope.)

Also adding a task in tasksel "Phone" or something
would be in scope of this project I suppose.


Best regards,
Per

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Bug#520934: console-setup: [INTL:fi] Updated Finnish translation of the debconf templates

2009-03-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Esko Arajärvi (e...@iki.fi):

> Right. I committed the new version to SVN (rev. 57973) and therefore close 
> this bug.


Strictly speaking, it would be better to add the relevant "Closes:"
entry in debian/changelog when committing...but as the maintainer
uploaded console-setup in the meantime, it's better leaving it this
way now...



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Bug#520711: installation-reports: The squeeze netinst doesn't find archive

2009-03-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Otavio Salvador (ota...@ossystems.com.br):
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
> > When I switch to the -F2 console and try to do a "wget", I get a
> > segmentation fault.
> 
> Please take a look on the syslog of the installer and if possible
> attach it to this
> bug report (please, gzip it).


Isn't the wget segfault mentioned by Rick enough to explain the
problem?




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Re: d-i lab

2009-03-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Otavio Salvador (ota...@ossystems.com.br):
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
> > I'm sure it will suprise no one when I say that the "d-i lab" automatic
> > test stuff I used to do is broken and rotting[1]. I don't think there's
> > any point in keeping it going in its current state, so I plan to turn it
> > off.
> 
> I'd like to try to take the maintainence of it over if you accept it.
> 
> I belive it is quite useful and I used it here at company and then
> I can try to make it work again. I won't be able to do that until began
> of April but if it is not a hurry to you, I can do that.


Couldn't this be a good idea to propose to someone *else* who would
like to contribute to D-I ?

Thus, it would save *your* time to work on release management..:-)

(ref: last team meeting...)





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