Bug#489006: have /boot on md0 (dm-raid1), but install grub to MBRs of both disks?

2010-04-11 Thread Sven Mueller
Well, Subject basically says what I try:

I want to have
/boot on /dev/md0 (raid1, sda1+sdb1)
/ on /dev/md1 (also raid1, sda5/sdb5
swap, non-critical data on lvm on /dev/md2 (raid0, sda6/sdb6)

The Debian installer easily lets me create such a layout, even using
preseeding. However, grub (both legacy and grub2) fail to generate a
device mapping for md0, thus being unable to install grub.

In my opinion such a partition layout should either be impossible to
create with d-i (or at least generate a warning) or grub-pc should
support this setup. Especially since this sort of partitioning is an
example in the partman-raid (or was it partman-lvm?) documentation. Not
exactly the way I described it, but with /root on lvm on raid.

Regards,
Sven



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Re: 5.0.4-i386 freezes at boot

2010-04-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 14:04 +0300, Sakari Aaltonen wrote:
 Quoting Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk:
 
  Please try to install the 'testing' suite (work in progress for Debian
  6.0 'squeeze') using the installer from
  http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/.  This will install a
  newer kernel version (2.6.32) which might include a fix for this bug.
  Even if you are sure you want to use Debian 5.0 'lenny', this will at
  least tell us whether a bug fix exists.
 
 Here are the results from my attempt to install *netinst testing  
 squeeze Alpha 1*.
 
 Without 'noapic', the newer install did not stop at the MP-BIOS bug  
 error message, but did advance to the language selection screen. But  
 it was impossible to select the language, as the keyboard did not work.

This is obviously a kernel bug, but may be fixed now (the installer
currently runs on Linux 2.6.30 but installs 2.6.32).

 With 'noapic', the install proceeded to completion. However, the  
 language/locale selection was strange in that if I selected English as  
 the language, I was only able to select the locale from a list of  
 English-language countries. This does not make sense. I could very  
 well be a native speaker of English residing in a non-English-language  
 locale.

You may need to use 'expert' mode to make that choice.  However I
believe there have been some later changes to locale selection to make
it more flexible.

 Or, I could simply prefer to use English at the installation  
 stage - if there is a problem in the screen Tee  
 pakettienhallintajärjestelmän asetukset, say, then how do I file a  
 bug report if I don't know how that phrase was written, originally, in  
 English?
 
 The installer finds the Fedora 12 that I installed earlier and  
 promises that that OS will be bootable in addition to the Debian one.  
 However, when I next restart the machine, the GRUB menu does *not*  
 have an entry for Fedora. There are only Debian entries - 4 of them,  
 in fact.

 OK, I select the top entry. But... I cannot log in, as the Welcome  
 screen does not accept me either as a normal user or as root. I have  
 now done the installation - all of it - twice, to make sure I did  
 input the password(s) correctly. But, well, no luck.

I'm wondering whether the keyboard is still broken here.  Did you type
the username in or did you select it with the mouse?  Or were you forced
to select the wrong keymap for your keyboard because of the restrictions
in the installer?

 I will note that I have, successively, installed OpenSUSE 11.2, Ubuntu  
 9.10 and Fedora 12 on this machine. They did have problems, yes, but I  
 could still log in. Also, the Debian install seems to have made the  
 Fedora 12 installation unbootable. A pity, as it was working pretty  
 well this morning.

Sorry about that; maybe the installer developers (debian-boot list) can
help you to debug and fix this.

Ben.

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Re: 5.0.4-i386 freezes at boot

2010-04-11 Thread Sakari Aaltonen

Quoting Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk:


I'm wondering whether the keyboard is still broken here.  Did you type

the username in or did you select it with the mouse?  Or were you forced
to select the wrong keymap for your keyboard because of the restrictions
in the installer?



I typed in the usernames, both 'root' and my own. They appeared  
correctly on-screen, so I would assume the passwords that I typed in  
were correct, too. But the installed system just did not accept them.



I will note that I have, successively, installed OpenSUSE 11.2, Ubuntu
9.10 and Fedora 12 on this machine. They did have problems, yes, but I
could still log in. Also, the Debian install seems to have made the
Fedora 12 installation unbootable. A pity, as it was working pretty
well this morning.


Sorry about that; maybe the installer developers (debian-boot list) can
help you to debug and fix this.



It's OK; I found instructions at
http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=975
on what to do to make the Fedora 12 installation bootable again. It's  
odd how the Debian installer (correctly) claims to have identified the  
F12 (on a different partition), but then does not list it in the boot  
menu.



Sakari Aaltonen



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Bug#577451: hw-detect: Should automatically install hardware related packages (RAID tools, printer drivers, fingerprint scanner tools, etc)

2010-04-11 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

Package: hw-detect
Version: 1.50
Tags:patch

For some kind of hardware, it would be very nice if the Debian
installer automatically installed the packages to support the hardware
in question.  An example is the RAID monitoring and administration
tools needed to check and configure a hardware RAID (like cpqarrayd
and mpt-status).  Another is a TV card which might need V4L(2) tools
to configure it.

In Debian, the discover tool is capable of handling this for USB and
PCI devices at the moment.  I've written a wrapper script
discover-pkginstall to provide hw-detect with a simple way to get
these hardware specific packages installed by the installer.  The
feature have been on my todo list for a long time, so I report this
against an old hw-detect version to document this. :)

To make the feature really useful, the database with hardware to
package mappings in discover-data need to be updated to list all the
packages that should be installed when a given PCI or USB device is
discovered.  At the moment there are 34 PCI and 48 USB devices with
package mappings in the database, but I am sure there are more
hardware we should handle out there.

This untested patch relative to the current svn source should
implement this feature:

Index: hw-detect.post-base-installer.d/60install-hwpackages
===
--- hw-detect.post-base-installer.d/60install-hwpackages(revision 0)
+++ hw-detect.post-base-installer.d/60install-hwpackages(revision 0)
@@ -0,0 +1,10 @@
+#!/bin/sh
+
+set -e
+
+. /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
+
+apt-install discover || true
+if [ -x /target/sbin/discover-pkginstall ] ; then
+   in-target discover-pkginstall
+fi

I suspect it need more work to get the debconf stuff to work properly
from within d-i.

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Bug#577451: hw-detect: Should automatically install hardware related packages (RAID tools, printer drivers, fingerprint scanner tools, etc)

2010-04-11 Thread Joey Hess
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 +apt-install discover || true
 +if [ -x /target/sbin/discover-pkginstall ] ; then
 +   in-target discover-pkginstall
 +fi
 
 I suspect it need more work to get the debconf stuff to work properly
 from within d-i.

debconf passthrough should work with in-target used like that.

But, discover-pkginstall needs to use the debconf-apt-progress
command when it runs aptitude to install packages.

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Bug#577461: installation-guide: Updates to textmode activation

2010-04-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: installation-guide
Version: 20090901
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

Hello,

Squeeze apparently needs vga=0 in addition to fb=false, else the kernel
switches to graphical mode very early. This needs to be documented in
the accessibility section, here is a patch, which also mentions how
useful it can be for qemu.

Samuel

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Debian Release: squeeze/sid
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  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 
'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.33 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

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de son fils
 -+- y sur #ens-mim - sombres histoires de zombies -+-
Index: en/boot-installer/accessibility.xml
===
--- en/boot-installer/accessibility.xml (révision 60852)
+++ en/boot-installer/accessibility.xml (copie de travail)
@@ -81,14 +81,15 @@
 /para
   /sect2
 
-  sect2titleBoard Devices/title
+  sect2titleBoard Devices and virtualization/title
 para
 
 Some accessibility devices are actual boards that are plugged inside the
-machine and that read text directly from the video memory. To get them
-to work framebuffer support must be disabled by using the
-userinputfb=false/userinput boot parameter. This will however reduce
-the number of available languages.
+machine and that read text directly from the video memory. Also, some
+virtualization tools have a textual interface (e.g. userinputqemu
+-curses/userinput). To get them to work framebuffer support must be disabled
+by using the userinputvga=0 fb=false/userinput boot parameter. This will
+however reduce the number of available languages.
 
 /para
   /sect2


Bug#505564: marked as done (Please document the braille support)

2010-04-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Package: installation-guide
Severity: wishlist

Hello Debian-Team,

You can use the Debian Installer very good with a braille display. 
Please document how to install Lenny with a braille display.


http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/ddp/manuals/branches/release-notes/lenny/en/installing.dbk?logsort=daterev=5413view=markup

Thank you very much in advance for the further documentation.

Simon Bienlein


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Hello,

The documentation about accessibility had been added last year, before
the Lenny release.

Samuel

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Re: Bug#577461: installation-guide: Updates to textmode activation

2010-04-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 11 Apr 2010 22:58:39 +0200, a écrit :
 Squeeze apparently needs vga=0 in addition to fb=false, else the kernel
 switches to graphical mode very early.

That being said, it could actually been considered as a regression,
since fb=false used to be enough.

Samuel


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Debian installer shortcuts?

2010-04-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

I'm having a look at the debian installer documentation atm, and I'd
like to precisely document the various keypresses needed to enable the
accessibility parts of the debian installer. I have no problem with
finding out information on x86 as I have a lot of x86 boxes.  I however
do not have a powerpc, an itanium or an alpha box (these are the archs
where brltty is enabled).  Can anybody get me details?  The list of what
I'd need is the keypresses to

- just boot (enter on x86),
- get to appending boot parameters (tab, type, enter on x86)

Samuel


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Bug#577461: installation-guide: Updates to textmode activation

2010-04-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ah, sorry, I thought that what follows would have been independent from
this bugreport but actually it's not.

The help menu is in textmode and can be used to type boot parameters
etc., so let's document that too.

Samuel
Index: en/boot-installer/accessibility.xml
===
--- en/boot-installer/accessibility.xml (révision 62894)
+++ en/boot-installer/accessibility.xml (copie de travail)
@@ -81,13 +81,24 @@
 /para
   /sect2
 
-  sect2titleBoard Devices/title
+  sect2titleBoard Devices and virtualization/title
 para
 
 Some accessibility devices are actual boards that are plugged inside the
-machine and that read text directly from the video memory. To get them
-to work framebuffer support must be disabled by using the
-userinputfb=false/userinput boot parameter. This will however reduce
+machine and that read text directly from the video memory. Also, some
+virtualization tools have a textual interface (e.g. userinputqemu
+-curses/userinput).
+
+/parapara
+
+For such case, a textual version of the bootloader can be activated by typing
+userinputh/userinput enterkey; . This permits to easily append boot
+parameters at will.
+
+/parapara
+
+The purely textual version of the installer must also be activated by using the
+userinputvga=0 fb=false/userinput boot parameter. This will however reduce
 the number of available languages.
 
 /para


Bug#577451: hw-detect: Should automatically install hardware related packages (RAID tools, printer drivers, fingerprint scanner tools, etc)

2010-04-11 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 577451 pkgsel
severity 577451 wishlist
thanks

On Sunday 11 April 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 For some kind of hardware, it would be very nice if the Debian
 installer automatically installed the packages to support the hardware
 in question.

IMO this belongs in pkgsel, not in hw-detect. It has nothing to do with 
hardware detection as used in D-I itself.



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Bug #577451 [hw-detect] hw-detect: Should automatically install hardware 
related packages (RAID tools, printer drivers, fingerprint scanner tools, etc)
Bug reassigned from package 'hw-detect' to 'pkgsel'.
Bug No longer marked as found in versions hw-detect/1.50.
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Bug #577451 [pkgsel] hw-detect: Should automatically install hardware related 
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Bug#577461: installation-guide: Updates to textmode activation

2010-04-11 Thread Frans Pop
tag 577461 pending
thanks

On Sunday 11 April 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Samuel Thibault, le Sun 11 Apr 2010 22:58:39 +0200, a écrit :
  Squeeze apparently needs vga=0 in addition to fb=false, else the
  kernel switches to graphical mode very early.

 That being said, it could actually been considered as a regression,
 since fb=false used to be enough.

It's not a regression but a necessary change since we now use VESA 
framebuffer by default for all x86 installs in order to have a better 
display resolution.

The fact that now two parameters are needed is the simple consequence of 
the fact that one is a kernel parameter (which *must* be passed at boot 
time) and one is a D-I parameter and the fact that the one does not 
automatically imply the other.

I've applied a modified version of both your patches. I've left out the 
virtualization bits as I don't think they belong in a section about 
accessibility and disabling framebuffer in general is already also 
documented in the general boot parameters section.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#577461: installation-guide: Updates to textmode activation

2010-04-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 12 April 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 The fact that now two parameters are needed is the simple consequence of
 the fact that one is a kernel parameter (which *must* be passed at boot
 time) and one is a D-I parameter and the fact that the one does not
 automatically imply the other.

Actually, *maybe* we could remove the need for fb=false for x86 if we 
dropped support for the vga16 framebuffer driver.



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Re: Bug#577461: installation-guide: Updates to textmode activation

2010-04-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frans Pop, le Mon 12 Apr 2010 00:39:57 +0200, a écrit :
 I've left out the virtualization bits as I don't think they belong in
 a section about accessibility and disabling framebuffer in general is
 already also documented in the general boot parameters section.

That is true, but knowing that one can install a Debian virtual machine
quite easily in textmode _is_ about accessibility.

Samuel


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[D-I Manual] Build log for en (11 Apr 2010) - ERRORS DURING BUILD

2010-04-11 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel
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