Dropping loop-aes-utils from d-i-meta-faux?
Hi, loop-aes-utils was removed from unstable a while ago (see #680748). It's still in testing, because britney won't remove it due to a dependency from the "faux package" d-i-meta-faux. d-i-m-f ensures that a number of packages important to d-i are not accidentally removed from testing. I'm not sure exactly how the original list was derived, but the current version can be found at http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=mirror/britney1.git;a=blob;f=fauxpkg/noremove.d/d-i.list;hb=1a77a0b546b4d53c8ecf7562b236684df0a1362e Does it still make sense for that list to include loop-aes-utils, or should we remove it, thus allowing l-a-e to be dropped from wheezy? Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1348031864.18378.15.ca...@jacala.jungle.funky-badger.org
Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer
Jon Dowland writes: > The installer (in expert mode) supports an ssh client on an alternative > VT, afaik. One can connect to another machine with stuff already > installed via this if necessary. Surely this is sufficient to address > the request. This requires you to have the other machine you can connect to. The idea is to be able to install without having another computer to fall back to. The life-installer CD probably solves the problem; I'll have to try it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87a9wmq11a@yun.yagibdah.de
Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer
Richard Owlett writes: > Should one not be able to switch out of the installation process and > into a browser (2 are already included) to search out answers? One should be able to. Since I haven't tried the life-installer yet, I don't know what's possible. It would be nice if one could switch between the installer and a browser any time after starting the installation. I wouldn't say it's needed since one can just reboot from the installer into the life system, assuming that one doesn't lose much when doing so. This assumption might be a bad idea, though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87392eq0f6@yun.yagibdah.de
Bug#650819: Worked around
severity 650819 normal close 684265 3.2.29-1 forcemerge 650819 686314 thanks This is no longer RC. A workaround has finally been applied, namely the first one, adding fuse. It will take some time before the fix makes it to install media. Note that I did not verify that the current symptom is gone and am closing its report assuming that fuse was properly added to installer images. We should still apply one of solutions 3 or 4, but this is no longer urgent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50590880.5070...@gmail.com
Bug#688045: Installation report for Wheezy beta 2 installer
Fabian Rodriguez, le Tue 18 Sep 2012 12:51:09 -0400, a écrit : > >> - - While installing the base system more optional detail (when > >> downloading updates for example) could be useful . > > > > Most people do not care about such details, that is why we don't show > > them. If you really care, see the documentation: > > > > “ > > Error messages and logs are redirected to the fourth console. You can > > access this console by pressing Left Alt-F4 (hold the left Alt key while > > pressing the F4 function key); get back to the main installer process > > with Left Alt-F1. > > ” > I appreciate Alt-F4 gives access to this but there isn't a hint about it > when it would be useful (specially low-bandwidth conditions come to mind). Well, we can't really provide all kinds of hints for all possible conditions. That's why there is documentation. > >> Odd behavior (not show-stopper): > >> - - Clock/timezone setup wasn't automatic even though a network > >> connection was present > > > > Do you mean that the clock was not adjusted, or just that the timezone > > was not asked? When the country has only one timezone, the timezone > > question is not asked, that's normal. > > Timezone was asked but could have been guessed (GeoIP?), GeoIP is not really a safe bet. Which country did you select? I actually wonder whether GeoIP can even help for the countries which have several timezones. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120918224650.gu5...@type.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr
Bug#688064: installation-reports: Successful classical install but wrong keyboard layout in GRUB
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Tags: d-i Boot method: USB stick + netinst Image version: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz + http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-b2-amd64-netinst.iso Date: 2012-09-18 Machine: Classical desktop computer Partitions: # df -Tl Filesystem Type 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on rootfs rootfs 239777836 7642036 220132012 4% / udev devtmpfs 10240 0 10240 0% /dev tmpfs tmpfs 202568 632201936 1% /run /dev/disk/by-uuid/add3ca6c-fc4f-439b-84a0-397a5bf6c663 ext4 239777836 7642036 220132012 4% / tmpfs tmpfs 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock tmpfs tmpfs 1229240 232 1229008 1% /run/shm # lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01) 00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01) 00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01) 00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01) 00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 01) 01:01.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78) # lspci -n 00:00.0 0600: 8086:2e30 (rev 03) 00:02.0 0300: 8086:2e32 (rev 03) 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 01) 00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:27c8 (rev 01) 00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:27c9 (rev 01) 00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:27ca (rev 01) 00:1d.3 0c03: 8086:27cb (rev 01) 00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:27cc (rev 01) 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev e1) 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:27b8 (rev 01) 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:27df (rev 01) 00:1f.2 0101: 8086:27c0 (rev 01) 01:01.0 0200: 10b7:9200 (rev 78) Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card:[O] Configure network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Clock/timezone setup: [O] User/password setup:[O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Install base system:[O] Install tasks: [O] Install boot loader:[E] Overall install:[O] Comments/Problems: I did follow the classical install path, only did I choose French as the locale. The machine rebooted fine and I'm using the installed system to write this report. I did find only I small problem: When I go in GRUB when the system boots, the keyboard is behaving QWERTY while it's an AZERTY keyboard and that it was detected as such by the Debian Installer. In Squeeze the keyboard layout was also wrongly set by the Debian Installer (QWERTY instead of AZERTY), so it's not a regression, but it's still a point that could usefully be improved. Thanks for your wonderful work. Warm regards, -- Please make sure that the hardware-summary log file, and any other installation logs that you think would be useful are attached to this report. Please compress large files using gzip. Once you have filled out this report, mail it to sub...@bugs.debian.org. == Installer lsb-release: == DISTRIB_ID=Debian DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Debian GNU/Linux installer" DISTRIB_RELEASE="7.0 (wheezy) - installer build 20120828" X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=hd-media == Installer hardware-summary: == uname -a: Linux sweet 3.2.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 02:45:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller [8086:2e30] (rev 03) lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:836d] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel lspci -knn: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e32] (rev 03) lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc
Re: Squeeze point release (6.0.6)
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 03:58:13PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > Hi, > > ok, given the replies, let's settle on this: > > On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 09:43:03PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > * Sep 29/30: ok from RT side > > We still need a press officer for somewhen in the evening to send out the > announcement, feedback from -live and a note from -kernel if there's still a > change staged for the next point release. > > p-u-NEW will close on the weekend of Sep 22nd/23rd (barring any breakage > induced by the ftp-master meeting ;-). Sorry, been travelling heavily for the past several days. We do have some changes queued, and I should be able to get a kernel uploaded by this weekend, but probably not sooner since I expect work to keep me pretty busy throught the work week. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120918173003.gf4...@dannf.org
Re: Using xz compression for initrd udebs?
Quoting Philipp Kern (pk...@debian.org): > udebs are already compressed with xz by default without further intervention > when a current debhelper is installed. arch:all packages cannot be binNMUed, > however. So if you did check the udeb in the archive and it's not > xz-compressed, a no change upload with a current chroot should solve that. OK, so no hurry. I'll leave the line enforcing xz compression as it will also act on the package debs. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installation-guide cleanup
Quoting Karsten Merker (mer...@debian.org): > What is the current official procedure for updating the po-based > translations in the repository when there are changes (like > adding conditionals) in the english text? As of now, this is a matter of "just do it"..:-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#687687: Installation was mostly successfully on Acer Aspire One D150
Hi Brian Potkin writes: > says for "select": > >> Holds one of a finite number of possible values. These >> values must be specified in a field named Choices:. >> Separate the possible values with commas and spaces, like >> this: Choices: yes, no, maybe > > The values in the templates file for netcfg for wireless_show_essids are > not separated by commas. Could this be the cause of the behaviour? That would very much surprise me. The comas are inserted by the substitution. So when the questions is asked they are there. But it might be that the substitution breaks preseeding. BTW: The relevant code is at http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/netcfg.git;a=summary if you want to have a look. Gaudenz -- Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. ~ Samuel Beckett ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87627bxohy@meteor.durcheinandertal.bofh
Bug#688045: Installation report for Wheezy beta 2 installer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12-09-18 12:33 PM, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > Hello, > > Thanks for the report! > > Fabian Rodriguez, le Tue 18 Sep 2012 12:24:45 -0400, a écrit : >> - - The option to have speech synthesis should be closer to the top, or >> be available in a way that will be consistent in upcoming versions. >> Having it at the end of the list may mean it will move positions which >> will inconvenience blind users that will get used to it being in a >> certain position. > > Being at the end makes it in a way that will be consistent in upcoming > versions, precisely: one can type . But actually we don't > even rely on that: there is an shortcut on the option. Yes, that makes sense. Thank you, noted. > > >> - - While installing the base system more optional detail (when >> downloading updates for example) could be useful . > > Most people do not care about such details, that is why we don't show > them. If you really care, see the documentation: > > “ > Error messages and logs are redirected to the fourth console. You can > access this console by pressing Left Alt-F4 (hold the left Alt key while > pressing the F4 function key); get back to the main installer process > with Left Alt-F1. > ” I appreciate Alt-F4 gives access to this but there isn't a hint about it when it would be useful (specially low-bandwidth conditions come to mind). > > >> Odd behavior (not show-stopper): >> - - Clock/timezone setup wasn't automatic even though a network >> connection was present > > Do you mean that the clock was not adjusted, or just that the timezone > was not asked? When the country has only one timezone, the timezone > question is not asked, that's normal. > > Samuel Timezone was asked but could have been guessed (GeoIP?), I entered it manually - end result was OK. Fabian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBYpnwACgkQfUcTXFrypNWrCQCbB/6bWq2ZiXwhCSgpHX+00qh8 8bEAoKAnyJECjBWHaoEysz8+bgO362tz =g8hZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5058a67d.6040...@member.fsf.org
Bug#688045: Installation report for Wheezy beta 2 installer
Hello, Thanks for the report! Fabian Rodriguez, le Tue 18 Sep 2012 12:24:45 -0400, a écrit : > - - The option to have speech synthesis should be closer to the top, or > be available in a way that will be consistent in upcoming versions. > Having it at the end of the list may mean it will move positions which > will inconvenience blind users that will get used to it being in a > certain position. Being at the end makes it in a way that will be consistent in upcoming versions, precisely: one can type . But actually we don't even rely on that: there is an shortcut on the option. > - - While installing the base system more optional detail (when > downloading updates for example) could be useful . Most people do not care about such details, that is why we don't show them. If you really care, see the documentation: “ Error messages and logs are redirected to the fourth console. You can access this console by pressing Left Alt-F4 (hold the left Alt key while pressing the F4 function key); get back to the main installer process with Left Alt-F1. ” > Odd behavior (not show-stopper): > - - Clock/timezone setup wasn't automatic even though a network > connection was present Do you mean that the clock was not adjusted, or just that the timezone was not asked? When the country has only one timezone, the timezone question is not asked, that's normal. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120918163325.gh5...@type.bordeaux.inria.fr
Bug#688045: Installation report for Wheezy beta 2 installer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: installation-reports Boot method: DVD Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta2/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-wheezy-DI-b2-amd64-DVD-1.iso Date: 2012-09-17 10:00 AM DST Machine: VirtualBox 4.1.12 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 680 Memory: 1024 MB Partitions: # fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 17.2 GB, 17179869184 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2088 cylinders, total 33554432 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00066b6b Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *20483208806316043008 83 Linux /dev/sda23209011033552383 7311375 Extended /dev/sda53209011233552383 731136 82 Linux swap / Solaris Output of lspci -knn (or lspci -nn): $ lspci -knn 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 440FX - 82441FX PMC [Natoma] [8086:1237] (rev 02) 00:01.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 ISA [Natoma/Triton II] [8086:7000] 00:01.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE [8086:7111] (rev 01) Kernel driver in use: ata_piix 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter [80ee:beef] 00:03.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller [8086:100e] (rev 02) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Desktop Adapter [8086:001e] Kernel driver in use: e1000 00:04.0 System peripheral [0880]: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Guest Service [80ee:cafe] 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:2415] (rev 01) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:] Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0 00:06.0 USB controller [0c03]: Apple Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB [106b:003f] Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd 00:07.0 Bridge [0680]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI [8086:7113] (rev 08) 00:0d.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 82801HM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:2829] (rev 02) Kernel driver in use: ahci Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card:[O] Configure network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Install base system:[O] Clock/timezone setup: [O] User/password setup:[O] Install tasks: [O] Install boot loader:[O] Overall install:[O] Comments/Problems: A few usability thoughts: - - The option to have speech synthesis should be closer to the top, or be available in a way that will be consistent in upcoming versions. Having it at the end of the list may mean it will move positions which will inconvenience blind users that will get used to it being in a certain position. - - While installing the base system more optional detail (when downloading updates for example) could be useful . Odd behavior (not show-stopper): - - Clock/timezone setup wasn't automatic even though a network connection was present -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBYoEsACgkQfUcTXFrypNVjwwCeN6E9T3raUm+LNxxkJId6pXcS qScAoMrZdI6Ri5vCEiYvDLdzyIGJP20N =c+G2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5058a04d.8010...@member.fsf.org
Re: Squeeze point release (6.0.6)
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:13:53AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 03:58:13PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > > > That should be read as "let's settle for Sep 29". > > > > I'm around with a press hat if needed. > Me too. Cheers, Francesca -- "You're scared of mice and spiders, but oh-so-much greater is your fear that one day the two species will cross-breed to form an all-powerful race of mice-spiders, who will immobilize human beings in giant webs in order to steal cheese." Tim Bisley, Spaced (1x01, "Beginnings") signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian installer and 4kB sector drives
Grześ Andruszkiewicz, le Tue 18 Sep 2012 11:58:32 +0100, a écrit : > Probably this was already raised, but anyway I would like to suggest > that the partitions created by the installer should be aligned to the > 4kB sectors by default. This is already the case. If not, please tell us in which case. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120918135631.gi5...@type.bordeaux.inria.fr
Debian installer and 4kB sector drives
Hi, Probably this was already raised, but anyway I would like to suggest that the partitions created by the installer should be aligned to the 4kB sectors by default. This is a minor issue for people with older drives, yet can be a massive bottleneck with some of the modern drives. Kind regards, Grzegorz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caczszyh6cxgtk8ezmarjjxrzhgked1ehw0pf0mytz6c7zbz...@mail.gmail.com
lowmem_1.36_i386.changes ACCEPTED into unstable
Accepted: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:52:37 +0200 Source: lowmem Binary: lowmemcheck lowmem Architecture: source i386 all Version: 1.36 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Install System Team Changed-By: Christian Perrier Description: lowmem - free memory for lowmem install (udeb) lowmemcheck - detect low-memory systems and enter lowmem mode (udeb) Changes: lowmem (1.36) unstable; urgency=low . [ Samuel Thibault ] * Update lowmem limits. Checksums-Sha1: a45f0489624247d6fdb6ddbaa8bba759fae11790 1601 lowmem_1.36.dsc 666395912b7ef73e6d67c30bf6db42d1f7ab1b27 11750 lowmem_1.36.tar.gz 818773f4d984c4a2d68341ceddf0c886d8098b39 4792 lowmemcheck_1.36_i386.udeb 85f1aa7d1fe7b1325d35abf78fa65e9bc72ded20 1496 lowmem_1.36_all.udeb Checksums-Sha256: e15ea177aea5425d2fd63f8c6410a0197b2db5cb126de0281aeb6ba3c4fcb068 1601 lowmem_1.36.dsc 8a4364f362ba2504821dc81e3e8edbf5e5a7f69dd2b25186f442020cbb8d392a 11750 lowmem_1.36.tar.gz 9bcba2e13ee7a50a1f2576deed046e7aac6390cadde271ebc9aafc1fef623a9b 4792 lowmemcheck_1.36_i386.udeb 7bec032badbdb977bf396053407c73691a7db6c530dfda84dda5e0d4f031ae76 1496 lowmem_1.36_all.udeb Files: cc3dce08477fb48d071ffc6d34c37bf3 1601 debian-installer optional lowmem_1.36.dsc f1fce5e7fdcb65fbb21631c59428c111 11750 debian-installer optional lowmem_1.36.tar.gz 0592a1c39f7cb7ed122b575924d3cb18 4792 debian-installer optional lowmemcheck_1.36_i386.udeb dbf03c46c587880bc62e6ece33f4675f 1496 debian-installer optional lowmem_1.36_all.udeb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBUFgATocvcCxNbiWoAQIXyBAAyj0O1NV44Z8fOTv9zk/jPF2GqXz4lTR8 Ebi8Jkbdts7lGHH07ELmpsn03ZBF521MTCCyrFXsjuvgexGGxI1jO7hue2ba40pz MPm/LMjRvMYygywXimJrIQVUCJhbv2VoZUObAbSsfHc7elSsUn8tArZn7FtadJLe JnaSa+W9Gb3JG7V/L0U7HiBWIyFIs/zwChJt8F/Uik1iKd2Ci4sooWrJHxoiVGqJ efDq5N5hfO1/yGQ0Yza/5QUtlwdbS+Lii/LMIL8jJJJa7lT2OpPFcS4rht688vEC UMmyydLCgqCrpPrKQmLrp81J69wHtTXEEsoC6BdK2YfN64QdKAFm0S/vp+y4wkvQ RRBXypEvupxLEIWWtzmgmkymnpDYjN9fyKiypVgzhJtK5sPS2ULvoRBboyilJ9wr n2duaMMTVKEjASK5EclGt9+qtbYASejRWL3G1R7aPsDkXFRLQ6dt6lOMNne4LzvJ r4bkAqaHes5ZWHzYYDXpHrtIte4ivabkB455amYbFczNCVW5Iygc83FwhIJ39wg+ vLlI547xlHqK4kDhLFr3vDI6n35qBZEuIo2Em3Lt80COtMtHG6Vk1sWxTc1Z05so uBVFi9c6JwbFel7FXi/6uXOKRYBykZeryrDyKBTwAZRAQADvtSC3JhfQfHUDb3Al JVRu6lXYbzc= =4wfS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thank you for your contribution to Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1tdvfk-va...@franck.debian.org
Bug#686970: Inconsistent ipv6 handling of localhost in netbase and netcfg
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:59:04AM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: > No, I didn't get any wiser. Except that I now am pretty convinced that > no service should listen to "localhost". They should explictly choose > 127.0.0.1 and/or ::1 AIUI the point is to listen to both and hence the (or a?) record should return both. Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#686970: Inconsistent ipv6 handling of localhost in netbase and netcfg
Philipp Kern writes: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:25:06AM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: >> For example: >> >> bjorn@canardo:~$ grep localhost /etc/hosts >> 127.0.0.1 localhost >> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback >> >> bjorn@canardo:~$ host localhost >> localhost has address 127.0.0.1 >> localhost has IPv6 address ::1 >> bjorn@canardo:~$ host ::1 >> 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.arpa >> domain name pointer localhost. >> >> This is not good... Which addresses will a service listening on >> "localhost" listen too? Seems it depends on whether DNS is available or >> not. Isn't that seriously buggy? > > Well, if you redefine localhost on your local DNS server, that's what > you get… Well, the debian bind9 package ships with zone "localhost" pointing to: ; ; BIND data file for local loopback interface ; $TTL604800 @ IN SOA localhost. root.localhost. ( 2 ; Serial 604800 ; Refresh 86400 ; Retry 2419200 ; Expire 604800 ) ; Negative Cache TTL ; @ IN NS localhost. @ IN A 127.0.0.1 @ IN ::1 So you should expect that... > Is there an RfC that regulates localhost's definition? There are plenty of them. As usual that does not help as much as if there had been ONE. You may choose to use RFC 2606 strictly, saying that the record above is wrong. RFC 6303 (BCP 163) is rather explicit about *not* stating any default name for 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa or 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.arpa a meaningful reverse mapping should exist, but the exact setup is out of the scope of this document No, I didn't get any wiser. Except that I now am pretty convinced that no service should listen to "localhost". They should explictly choose 127.0.0.1 and/or ::1 Bjørn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87haqv1zc7@nemi.mork.no
Bug#686970: Inconsistent ipv6 handling of localhost in netbase and netcfg
Philipp Kern writes: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:30:58PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Sep 17, Philipp Kern wrote: >> > True, but somehow I feel that freeze time is not the time to change this. >> I disagree, netcfg should be fixed. There is plenty of time to look at >> any fallback, and even reverting the change if needed. >> This is 2012, Europe and Asia are out of IPv4 networks and we cannot >> afford substandard IPv6 support anymore. > > It affects services listening on localhost. Well, those services are already affected in any case. Any bug triggered by cleaning this up would already be triggered depending on DNS availability. /etc/hosts is not the primary source for names, and if you put anything there then it should really, really not be some locally invented mumbo-jumbo name. That just creates inconsistencies between the connected and unconnected system state and is not helpful at all. For example: bjorn@canardo:~$ grep localhost /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback bjorn@canardo:~$ host localhost localhost has address 127.0.0.1 localhost has IPv6 address ::1 bjorn@canardo:~$ host ::1 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.arpa domain name pointer localhost. This is not good... Which addresses will a service listening on "localhost" listen too? Seems it depends on whether DNS is available or not. Isn't that seriously buggy? Bjørn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87lig720wt@nemi.mork.no
Bug#686970: Inconsistent ipv6 handling of localhost in netbase and netcfg
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:25:06AM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: > For example: > > bjorn@canardo:~$ grep localhost /etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost > ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback > > bjorn@canardo:~$ host localhost > localhost has address 127.0.0.1 > localhost has IPv6 address ::1 > bjorn@canardo:~$ host ::1 > 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.arpa > domain name pointer localhost. > > This is not good... Which addresses will a service listening on > "localhost" listen too? Seems it depends on whether DNS is available or > not. Isn't that seriously buggy? Well, if you redefine localhost on your local DNS server, that's what you get… Is there an RfC that regulates localhost's definition? Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Using xz compression for initrd udebs?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 06:48:57AM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > One of my co-maintainers for fonts changed the fonts-sil-abyssinica > package to use xz compression for *deb packages. > > Is it OK to upload the package with such change, d-i wise? This is the > only change along with the drop of an empty directory in the package > (cruft left from ttf-* -> fonts-* naming transition)? > > I think it should hurt and would indeed reduce the initrd size > slightly...as long as we do support xz uncompression in the D-I > initrd. udebs are already compressed with xz by default without further intervention when a current debhelper is installed. arch:all packages cannot be binNMUed, however. So if you did check the udeb in the archive and it's not xz-compressed, a no change upload with a current chroot should solve that. Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Squeeze point release (6.0.6)
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 03:59:09PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 03:58:13PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > ok, given the replies, let's settle on this: > > On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 09:43:03PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > > * Sep 29/30: ok from RT side > > We still need a press officer for somewhen in the evening to send out the > > announcement, feedback from -live and a note from -kernel if there's still a > > change staged for the next point release. > > That should be read as "let's settle for Sep 29". > I'm around with a press hat if needed. Neil -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
