Re: default desktop

[john doe]

On 2/9/2019 7:21 PM, Mewtamer wrote:
> This is just a suggestion, but perhaps, instead of having "Debian
> Desktop Environment" as an alias for the default without any
> explanation, perhaps it would be better to restructure the software
> selection menu to something like:
>
> 1. Gnome Desktop Environment(Debian Default)
> 2. Mate Desktop Environment(Recommended for Accessibility).
> 3. LXDE(recommended for systems with limited resources)
> 4. No Desktop Environment(System will be command-line only)
>
> Etc., adjusting numbers to accomodate whatever other desktop
> environments can be installed at that point. And I suggest including
> the no desktop environment option to simplify things for those who'd
> rather start with a basic system and handle most software installation
> manually afterward. Might just be me, but this feels much more
> self-documenting, informs everyone who doesn't already know what the
> default is, gives those who need accessibility or are setting things
> up for accessibility a heads up that the default might not be best,
> etc.
>

+1

--
John Doe

Re: Collecting Wayland issues [Was: default desktop]

[john doe]

On 2/9/2019 3:16 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Could people raise the issues they have had when trying Wayland?
>

How do I go about testing wayland?
Should I tested on Mate or on Gnome?

--
John Doe

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Re: win32-loader_0.9.4_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

Holger Wansing  (2019-02-09):
> According to 
> https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-boot%40lists.debian.org
> win32-loader is still blocked from migrating to testing because of udeb block.
> 
> This should be lifted now, right?

It's a little different… there's a specific hint for this package[1]:
| # doesn't actually produce udebs, but blocked RoM (not d-i RM): it gets 
handled by the ftp team so make sure the package migrates at the same time it 
gets copied into debian/tools/$suite.
| block-udeb win32-loader

 1. https://release.debian.org/britney/hints/freeze

The maintainer usually checks with the ftp team and tells the release
team or me when an unblock-udeb makes sense.


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Re: default desktop

[Mewtamer]

This is just a suggestion, but perhaps, instead of having "Debian
Desktop Environment" as an alias for the default without any
explanation, perhaps it would be better to restructure the software
selection menu to something like:

1. Gnome Desktop Environment(Debian Default)
2. Mate Desktop Environment(Recommended for Accessibility).
3. LXDE(recommended for systems with limited resources)
4. No Desktop Environment(System will be command-line only)

Etc., adjusting numbers to accomodate whatever other desktop
environments can be installed at that point. And I suggest including
the no desktop environment option to simplify things for those who'd
rather start with a basic system and handle most software installation
manually afterward. Might just be me, but this feels much more
self-documenting, informs everyone who doesn't already know what the
default is, gives those who need accessibility or are setting things
up for accessibility a heads up that the default might not be best,
etc.

Feel free to forward this to whoever would be in a position to
consider and/or implement it.

Bug#921815: debootstrap umount "host" /proc when running in a Docker container

[Kristian Klausen]

I have opened a MR: 
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debootstrap/merge_requests/26

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Bug#891316: marked as done (Updating the cdebconf Uploaders list)

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and subject line Bug#891316: fixed in cdebconf 0.247
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--- Begin Message ---
Source: cdebconf
Version: 0.192 0.227 0.232 0.235 0.236 0.241
Severity: minor
User: m...@qa.debian.org
Usertags: mia-teammaint

Regis Boudin  has not been working on
the cdebconf package for quite some time.

We are tracking their status in the MIA team and would like to ask you
to remove them from the Uploaders list of the package so we can close
that part of the file.

(If the person is listed as Maintainer, what we are asking is to please
step in as a new maintainer.)

Thanks.
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
Source: cdebconf
Source-Version: 0.247

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
cdebconf, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 891...@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

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Re: win32-loader_0.9.4_source.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

[Holger Wansing]

Hi all,

Debian FTP Masters  wrote:
> 
> 
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> Version: 0.9.4
> Distribution: unstable
> Urgency: medium
> Maintainer: Debian Install System Team 
> Changed-By: Didier Raboud 
> Description:
>  win32-loader - Debian-Installer loader for win32
> Closes: 919023
> Changes:
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>  .
>[ Thomas Gaugler ]
>* Simplification of BOOTCFG_CreateGUID function (Closes: #919023)
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According to 
https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-boot%40lists.debian.org
win32-loader is still blocked from migrating to testing because of udeb block.

This should be lifted now, right?


Holger


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Bug#870448: marked as done (hw-detect - stop using modprobe -l)

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Your message dated Sat, 09 Feb 2019 16:16:00 +
with message-id 
and subject line Bug#870448: fixed in hw-detect 1.135
has caused the Debian Bug report #870448,
regarding hw-detect - stop using modprobe -l
to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
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--- Begin Message ---
Package: hw-detect
Version: 1.124
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

I keep seeing this in installer logs, back to jessie.

Aug  2 01:52:11 main-menu[193]: (process:224): modprobe: invalid option -- 'l'


I rated this normal rather than minor because the way it is working
now the is_available() function always returns 1 (failure)

My suggestion is to use modinfo instead.
This will return multiline output inside the quotes but
a couple of tests suggests that is ok.
It does fail with some modules (nvidia), not sure if we care.

diff --git a/hw-detect.sh b/hw-detect.sh
index 7977814..d8196c1 100755
--- a/hw-detect.sh
+++ b/hw-detect.sh
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ is_not_loaded() {
 }
 
 is_available () {
-   [ "$(modprobe -l $1)" ] || return 1
+   [ "$(modinfo $1)" ] || return 1
 }
 
 # Module as first parameter, description of device the second.

Kind regards
Vince
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
Source: hw-detect
Source-Version: 1.135

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
hw-detect, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 870...@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Holger Wansing  (supplier of updated hw-detect package)

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Changed-By: Holger Wansing 
Closes: 870448
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   * Team upload
 .
   * Remove trailing whitespaces from changelog file, to fix lintian tag.
   * No longer use invalid 'modprobe -l' call, replace by 'modprobe -qn' to
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Processed: Re: Bug#913159: task-kannada-desktop: uninstallable on mips and mipsel

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Bug #913159 [task-kannada-desktop] task-kannada-desktop: uninstallable on mips 
and mipsel
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #913159 to the same values 
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Bug#913159: task-kannada-desktop: uninstallable on mips and mipsel

[Holger Wansing]

Control: notfound -1 3.50

Holger Wansing  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ivo De Decker  wrote:
> > Control: found -1 3.39
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 07:19:21PM +0100, Ivo De Decker wrote:
> > > version: 3.47
> > 
> > As kibi noted on IRC, this also affects the version in stretch.
> > 
> > Ivo
> 
> 
> "task-kannada-desktop depends on 'firefox-esr-l10n-kn | firefox-l10n-kn', 
> which
> is not installable on mips and mipsel, because the latest firefox doesn't
> build there (yet)."
> 
> I committed that for Buster now.
> Does this deserve a stable upload for Stretch?

With yesterday's upload of tasksel, this has been fixed for Buster.
Tagging accordingly.

Should we leave this bug open for Stretch?


Holger

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Bug#921863: installation-reports: irqbalance need for SMP systems

[Heiko Ernst]

Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

For Multi CPU systems irqbalance is needed.



-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: network
Image version: debian buster Alpha 5
Date: 

Machine: IBM
Partitions: 


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [ ]
Detect network card:[ ]
Configure network:  [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[ ]

Comments/Problems:




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==
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==
DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Debian GNU/Linux installer"
DISTRIB_RELEASE="10 (buster) - installer build 20181206"
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
uname -a: Linux debian 4.18.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.18.20-2 (2018-11-23) 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
to ESI Port [8086:3405] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:836b]
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:3408] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:03.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:340a] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:07.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
PCI Express Root Port 7 [8086:340e] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:14.0 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
System Management Registers [8086:342e] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: 00:14.1 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
GPIO and Scratch Pad Registers [8086:3422] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: 00:14.2 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
Control Status and RAS Registers [8086:3423] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: 00:14.3 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
Throttle Registers [8086:3438] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: 00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:3a37]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1a.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 [8086:3a38]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1a.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 [8086:3a39]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1a.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 [8086:3a3c]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ehci_pci
lspci -knn: 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 
PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:3a40]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 
PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:3a44]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1c.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 
PCI Express Root Port 5 [8086:3a48]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:3a34]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:3a35]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:3a36]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer 

Collecting Wayland issues [Was: default desktop]

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Could people raise the issues they have had when trying Wayland?

Jeremy Bicha, le sam. 09 févr. 2019 08:38:29 -0500, a ecrit:
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:36 AM Samuel Thibault  wrote:
> > > Ok, then you need to discuss this with the rest of the Debian GNOME
> > > team. I suggest the debian-gtk-gnome list. (And I think it would have
> > > been more polite to talk to them before talking to the tasksel team.)
> > >
> > > It's a bit late to be talking about reverting Wayland by default for
> > > everyone since this has been enabled for Testing since soon after the
> > > Stretch release.
> >
> > Well, actually, personally I realized that gnome switched to wayland in
> > Debian only recently.  I believe most of debian-accessibility@ is in the
> > same situation, so this is mostly untested, and for instance
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2019/01/msg00014.html
> > needs to be fixed to have gtk2 applications accessible.
> >
> > As you say, it's now too late for doing much changes in gnome anyway.
> 
> I said only "a bit late", but there is still time to make this change
> if necessary. If there are significant problems with GNOME on Wayland
> that the Debian GNOME team may have been unaware of, please let them
> know promptly.

Well, it's not really about GNOME (though there are GNOME-only issues
such as Gnome Settings), but Wayland in general. I started collecting
what I'm aware of on

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Accessibility/Wayland/

https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2019/01/msg00014.html
can probably be easy to fix, I just don't know where packages are
supposed to define environment variables for Wayland sessions.

Samuel

Bug#921861: installation-reports: firmware-amd-graphics need for ATI Graphics cards

[Heiko Ernst]

Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

I have a ATI Radeon RX 580 and after installation complette X don't start. The
solution is after installation apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics.



-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: network
Image version: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release
Date: 

Machine: 
Partitions: 


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [ ]
Detect network card:[ ]
Configure network:  [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[ ]

Comments/Problems:




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==
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==
DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Debian GNU/Linux installer"
DISTRIB_RELEASE="10 (buster) - installer build 20181206"
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
uname -a: Linux debian 4.18.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.18.20-2 (2018-11-23) 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
to ESI Port [8086:3405] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:836b]
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:3408] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:03.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:340a] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:07.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
PCI Express Root Port 7 [8086:340e] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:14.0 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
System Management Registers [8086:342e] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: 00:14.1 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
GPIO and Scratch Pad Registers [8086:3422] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: 00:14.2 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
Control Status and RAS Registers [8086:3423] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: 00:14.3 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub 
Throttle Registers [8086:3438] (rev 13)
lspci -knn: 00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:3a37]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1a.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 [8086:3a38]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1a.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 [8086:3a39]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1a.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 [8086:3a3c]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: ehci_pci
lspci -knn: 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 
PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:3a40]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 
PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:3a44]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1c.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 
PCI Express Root Port 5 [8086:3a48]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:3a34]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 
Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:3a35]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:82d4]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: Kernel modules: uhci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: 

Re: default desktop

[Jeremy Bicha]

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:36 AM Samuel Thibault  wrote:
> > Ok, then you need to discuss this with the rest of the Debian GNOME
> > team. I suggest the debian-gtk-gnome list. (And I think it would have
> > been more polite to talk to them before talking to the tasksel team.)
> >
> > It's a bit late to be talking about reverting Wayland by default for
> > everyone since this has been enabled for Testing since soon after the
> > Stretch release.
>
> Well, actually, personally I realized that gnome switched to wayland in
> Debian only recently.  I believe most of debian-accessibility@ is in the
> same situation, so this is mostly untested, and for instance
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2019/01/msg00014.html
> needs to be fixed to have gtk2 applications accessible.
>
> As you say, it's now too late for doing much changes in gnome anyway.

I said only "a bit late", but there is still time to make this change
if necessary. If there are significant problems with GNOME on Wayland
that the Debian GNOME team may have been unaware of, please let them
know promptly.

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha

Re: default desktop

[Samuel Thibault]

Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 20:05:03 -0500, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:37 PM Samuel Thibault  wrote:
> > As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for
> > accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of
> > default desktop for Debian indeed. IIRC one of the reasons for the
> > choice of gnome was its general accessibility, and I'm just saying I
> > believe that part has changed.
> 
> Ok, then you need to discuss this with the rest of the Debian GNOME
> team. I suggest the debian-gtk-gnome list. (And I think it would have
> been more polite to talk to them before talking to the tasksel team.)
> 
> It's a bit late to be talking about reverting Wayland by default for
> everyone since this has been enabled for Testing since soon after the
> Stretch release.

Well, actually, personally I realized that gnome switched to wayland in
Debian only recently.  I believe most of debian-accessibility@ is in the
same situation, so this is mostly untested, and for instance
https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2019/01/msg00014.html
needs to be fixed to have gtk2 applications accessible.

As you say, it's now too late for doing much changes in gnome anyway.

Samuel

Processed: Re: Bug#690210: debootstrap : debian-ports support

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Bug #690210 [debootstrap] debootstrap: please add support for debian-ports
Changed Bug title to 'debootstrap: please support multiple suites' from 
'debootstrap: please add support for debian-ports'.

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Bug#690210: debootstrap : debian-ports support

[Aurelien Jarno]

control: retitle -1 debootstrap: please support multiple suites

On 2018-04-30 09:45, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2018, jhcha54008 wrote:
> > I am afraid debootstrap already depends on perl (it
> > doesn't show up in the control file as perl-base
> > is Essential) : it ships a perl function 'pkg_details'
> > inline (see file /usr/share/debootstrap/functions line 1323
> > in debootstrap version 1.0.97)
> 
> Ok, I missed this. Still I'm pretty sure that it's not a good
> trend to continue.
> 
> > Should the perl code depends on libdpkg-perl or is it bearable
> > to inline the needed functions ? The former avoids code duplication
> > with benefits in size and maintainability, the latter keeps the
> > dependencies to a minimum (wget, perl-base).
> > 
> > As far as I know, there are three main use cases of debootstrap :
> > 1. create a debian chroot on a host running debian (or similar)
> > 2. in debian-installer (base-installer step)
> > 3. "to install Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system"
> > (https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apds03.html.en)
> > 
> > Depending on libdpkg-perl is beneficial to the first use case,
> > and inlining the functions to the third.
> 
> A dependency on libdpkg-perl is not a good idea either. This is why I'm
> really questioning the need to for this code to be inside debootstrap
> at all.

From what I get this new dependency on libdpkg-perl or on perl code is
to be able to sort packages by version, as a package can be in both
suite in different versions. However that leads me to 2 questions:

- At least for sid, it's already possible to have a package twice in two
  different versions in a single suite. How does it work currently? Does
  it takes the first one, the second one, or is it a random selection?
  I am not sure that the order in dak is stable though.

- If the order used by debootstrap is not random, we can probably just
  "concatenate" the two Packages file in the right order to give more
  priority to unreleased (or to -security, see below).

> > > IMO the special casing for ports.debian.org architectures should be
> > > handled in a dedicated wrapper. And maybe debootstrap needs new features
> > > to make this wrapper possible.
> > 
> > May I ask what for new features you have in mind ?
> 
> Possibly passing a pre-built "Packages" file directly. It would be the
> result of the merge that you are doing between UNRELEASED and the normal
> suite.
> 
> > Is the hope of a debian-ports support in debootstrap still
> > (not too un)reasonable ?
> 
> Why aren't you creating a proper suite merging the required bits on the
> server side in ports.debian.org?
> 
> Maybe the tools you are using do not make it easy to implement but it's really
> something that is not hard with most of the tools (e.g. reprepro).

I am not really sure why we want to do that on the server side,
especially that we are talking about moving debian-ports to dak at some
point, so it means the work will have to be redone also for dak.

In addition to that, in the light of the recent apt issue, there is
another use case than debian-ports for supporting multiple suites.
Supporting debootstrap from both oldstable and oldstable-security
would allow to debootstrap jessie easily. Currently you need to
deboostrap jessie and then upgrade to the latest apt with the
redirection disabled. Of course you need to do that from a mirror which
doesn't use redirection (i.e. not deb.debian.org as apt from jessie
doesn't support the SRV record). As a bonus this feature could be used
in the d-i netboot images, making the installation even faster, by not
downloading and installing the packages in -security twice.

In that regard, I have retitled the bug report.

-- 
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Re: default desktop

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On 2/9/2019 2:05 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:37 PM Samuel Thibault  wrote:
>> As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for
>> accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of
>> default desktop for Debian indeed. IIRC one of the reasons for the
>> choice of gnome was its general accessibility, and I'm just saying I
>> believe that part has changed.
>
> Ok, then you need to discuss this with the rest of the Debian GNOME
> team. I suggest the debian-gtk-gnome list. (And I think it would have
> been more polite to talk to them before talking to the tasksel team.)
>
> It's a bit late to be talking about reverting Wayland by default for
> everyone since this has been enabled for Testing since soon after the
> Stretch release.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Bicha
>

Something that is confusing is that when installing Debian with the
kernel boot parameter 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text', 'Debian desktop
environment' is not the desktop that is "accessible".
Furthermore, while I value the talking installer ("install Debian with
speatch"), the default desktop environment should be the one propose by
Debian.
A warning should be displayed saying something like "the 'debian desktop
environment' is currently less accessible then Mate".

I'll go back to a point I already raised, that is, the Debian talking
installer shouldn't presume the Debian defaults and ask for any changes
that involve accessibility.

--
John Doe

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