Bug#929752: Changing quote signs in GPL allowed? [Was: Bug#929752: installation-guide: left quotes in gpl.xml are not correctly rendered in pdf ]
On Tue, 2019-08-06 at 21:05 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Holger Wansing (2019-08-06 20:30:56)
> >
> > [Adding debian-devel for a bigger audience]
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Holger Wansing wrote:
> > >
> > > Control: retitle -1 Replace grave accents/single quotes by
> > > in gpl.xml
> > >
> > > Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Changwoo Ryu, le jeu. 30 mai 2019 22:22:05 +0900, a ecrit:
> > > > >
> > > > > In en/appendix/gpl.xml, ordinary double quotes (") and grave
> > > > > accent character (`) are used for left single/double quotes.
> > > > > But
> > > > > they are not correctly rendered in pdf.
> > > > >
> > > > > See the English PDF at
> > > > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.pdf.en.
> > > > > Opening double quotes are rendered as right double quotes.
> > > > > And
> > > > > grave accents are rendered just as grave accents, not a left
> > > > > single quotes.
> > > > AIUI we should just replace "" and `' in the xml file with
> > > > .
> > I was about to commit these changes, however it came to my mind if
> > such changes to the GPL are allowed?
> >
> > At least the English variant of the GPL is 'official' and is not to
> > be
> > changed, so what about changing the quoting signs into
> > entities?
> Some very narrow interpretation of "not to be changed" disallow
> making
> the text into a PDF at all, as it is not bit-by-bit identical.
>
> GNU GPL-1, GPL-2, and GPL-3 however all permit "verbatim copies"
> which I
> can only interpret as permitting changes to punctuation and
> whitespace.
IANAL. In my opinion, replacing punctuation with equivalent markup to
render correctly while still keeping the original wording is within the
spirit of GPL.
I think the best thing to do would be to contact the FSF and ask for
clarification. I'm sure they'd be happy to answer this.
Kyle
Bug#929752: Changing quote signs in GPL allowed? [Was: Bug#929752: installation-guide: left quotes in gpl.xml are not correctly rendered in pdf ]
On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 08:30:56PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: > I was about to commit these changes, however it came to my mind if such > changes to the GPL are allowed? > > At least the English variant of the GPL is 'official' and is not to be > changed, so what about changing the quoting signs into > entities? gpl.xml isn't official. It isn't one of the files from the FSF. There is a gpl-2.0.dbk[1] version available which in fact does use and while every other file format uses ` and '. So at least there is precedence for using tags instead. After all if you decided to use the docbook file as your source text, you would get the quotes desired. [1] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.dbk -- Len Sorensen
Bug#929752: Changing quote signs in GPL allowed? [Was: Bug#929752: installation-guide: left quotes in gpl.xml are not correctly rendered in pdf ]
Quoting Holger Wansing (2019-08-06 20:30:56)
> [Adding debian-devel for a bigger audience]
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Holger Wansing wrote:
> > Control: retitle -1 Replace grave accents/single quotes by
> > in gpl.xml
> >
> > Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Changwoo Ryu, le jeu. 30 mai 2019 22:22:05 +0900, a ecrit:
> > > > In en/appendix/gpl.xml, ordinary double quotes (") and grave
> > > > accent character (`) are used for left single/double quotes. But
> > > > they are not correctly rendered in pdf.
> > > >
> > > > See the English PDF at
> > > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.pdf.en.
> > > > Opening double quotes are rendered as right double quotes. And
> > > > grave accents are rendered just as grave accents, not a left
> > > > single quotes.
> > >
> > > AIUI we should just replace "" and `' in the xml file with
> > > .
>
> I was about to commit these changes, however it came to my mind if
> such changes to the GPL are allowed?
>
> At least the English variant of the GPL is 'official' and is not to be
> changed, so what about changing the quoting signs into
> entities?
Some very narrow interpretation of "not to be changed" disallow making
the text into a PDF at all, as it is not bit-by-bit identical.
GNU GPL-1, GPL-2, and GPL-3 however all permit "verbatim copies" which I
can only interpret as permitting changes to punctuation and whitespace.
- Jonas
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Bug#929752: Changing quote signs in GPL allowed? [Was: Bug#929752: installation-guide: left quotes in gpl.xml are not correctly rendered in pdf ]
[Adding debian-devel for a bigger audience]
Hi,
Holger Wansing wrote:
> Control: retitle -1 Replace grave accents/single quotes by in
> gpl.xml
>
> Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Changwoo Ryu, le jeu. 30 mai 2019 22:22:05 +0900, a ecrit:
> > > In en/appendix/gpl.xml, ordinary double quotes (") and grave accent
> > > character (`)
> > > are used for left single/double quotes. But they are not correctly
> > > rendered in pdf.
> > >
> > > See the English PDF at
> > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.pdf.en.
> > > Opening double quotes are rendered as right double quotes. And grave
> > > accents are
> > > rendered just as grave accents, not a left single quotes.
> >
> > AIUI we should just replace "" and `' in the xml file with
> > .
I was about to commit these changes, however it came to my mind if such
changes to the GPL are allowed?
At least the English variant of the GPL is 'official' and is not to be
changed, so what about changing the quoting signs into
entities?
Holger
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Bug#934072: OpenRD images are gone
Package: debian-installer Version: 20190702 Severity: important I noticed that there are no pre-built images for OpenRD in buster anymore. I found: commit e799d626f45e9c706d05003e3112d481db2870a9 Author: Vagrant Cascadian Date: Wed Dec 5 17:45:22 2018 +0100 [armel] Disable OpenRD targets, no longer present in u-boot. While it's true that there are no u-boot images for OpenRD anymore, I think the installer and kernel should still work fine (people can install u-boot from stretch or even use the Marvell u-boot that ships with the device). I think the part of the commit above that removed openrd from build/config/armel/kirkwood/netboot.cfg should be reverted. (the change to build/boot/arm/armel-kirkwood-u-boot-image-config is obviously fine) I don't have an OpenRD anymore but I can probably find someone if testing is required. -- Martin Michlmayr https://www.cyrius.com/
di-netboot-assistant_0.63_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable
Accepted: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 15:50:22 +0200 Source: di-netboot-assistant Binary: di-netboot-assistant Architecture: source all Version: 0.63 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Install System Team Changed-By: Andreas B. Mundt Description: di-netboot-assistant - Debian-Installer netboot assistant Closes: 926832 927510 Changes: di-netboot-assistant (0.63) unstable; urgency=medium . [ Andreas B. Mundt ] * Automatically generate list of images to be purged (autopkgtest). * Add autopkgtest to ensure version strings in package and script are identical (closes: #926832). * Add example 'installbox' and update examples for buster. * Fix keyboard keymap preseeding, ansible-pull and improve README. * Fix testing with qemu/kvm command, BIOS and/or UEFI. * Use boot parameter to define playbook, add example. * Move variables only relevant for the installation before '---'. * Add instructions for u-boot (armhf). * Prepare for salsa-ci. * Bump Standards-Version to 4.4.0 (no changes needed). . [ Cyril Brulebois ] * Remove Christian Perrier from Uploaders, with many thanks for all his contributions over the years! (Closes: #927510) Checksums-Sha1: 98b416bcf9dce3a11b5f04e677077e2ab6e56040 1885 di-netboot-assistant_0.63.dsc 8198400ba4edb5423b07d907ce9eb66fdfd0af21 42376 di-netboot-assistant_0.63.tar.xz 0148464407bc5ade159a6bb4d12e3c0cb50099ae 42356 di-netboot-assistant_0.63_all.deb 3c9a1f7a9d2bd5680aeaca049ff60346cdd3ed1d 5406 di-netboot-assistant_0.63_amd64.buildinfo Checksums-Sha256: 9ea67b5c5b84bf8253c906ab228809346db0eaa64f1a89a917a0c24fda05e822 1885 di-netboot-assistant_0.63.dsc 9716f9cceeadd5db50069bc9dd2d49f45b05096076ddc3210b454b4803bd2afe 42376 di-netboot-assistant_0.63.tar.xz 3d3c4ad8e31d1ba9c9479e7b8e5d5c56c472ddf82be581dfc5518accea565cec 42356 di-netboot-assistant_0.63_all.deb 2058be08ae649950f522384757f1c8134a06765eb6955dbf9b85e51af26ff116 5406 di-netboot-assistant_0.63_amd64.buildinfo Files: dee0d6c66da035748bb7a31b8a94c526 1885 utils optional di-netboot-assistant_0.63.dsc 286c22c477226be41ddc996741f563ee 42376 utils optional di-netboot-assistant_0.63.tar.xz d6c5f1d3a8feec1ac9725d738f558ba7 42356 utils optional di-netboot-assistant_0.63_all.deb d9acad120df87faeec724f999147de55 5406 utils optional di-netboot-assistant_0.63_amd64.buildinfo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEk4pc7h4pDeJV2ayYsB/qhGF7WG0FAl1JmFIACgkQsB/qhGF7 WG14lA/9Hst6VRhSKwo6NrfC5a8uf1F0tZlvH9o9dUKtk2Va/4HZjzJLtqwPyaqZ +UtDV8Ca7CSvwTiT1TKWpW4ENHsmjUxXX4U50v9b5ZscVaUGhUCMAVdmIZGkzJ/2 A48eCYq8w//0Q/w0VPjwsCl4WLnAmFSvQoa8RHuUWsRayLKFxe2MUlLqHSsOg10X 08zwRFMWwUvNZcm7IkbclA0S+iGhN0ZZanG+NTlJaShpTSFVDBdvFc5ZFRliHzWY mxHW6uTzWF/GLOizGHN866NQMiGRgzgDdtklexh3j6MEOaRyAr5G2qZRKln6rYxK YnQHxvlNxATu4BWFZFEFwt51xuxWd8ZenPOfQS0B3jT/zxa4OJe3WgNoEPcFcWFX e4l0btHJqor8CznNgj2n/sGSVT7eWAQphLW556ZoCvjy8WXk6iw5zBlLUkNGWF/v 1IV6vKzDKwDzeKySZ+8QN9GO6IH7M5SN4coRFUQiZzS0+4bicXPPzl4cpC4AqC4U SKMiPSdJJ8lIV41cGcTIysAHARKmhBc/8kNhpFl0Hg7U7SgB8gOuBcl0YnMoL30O Vid+x+8RzQqYuOfiOdDU/iILOyjzfUO33+T9Q+eki4bHyxkXXnZpU35CAZ3zQmZD aI5bItOt7RKuyZhQ0fodctxsR4k/ipG29vP2jD2rKlWLKNwHIEA= =jHWk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thank you for your contribution to Debian.
Bug#926832: marked as done (di-netboot-assistant: di-netboot-assitant Version 0.62 shows Version 0.60 when calling di-netboot-assistant -V)
Your message dated Tue, 06 Aug 2019 15:52:25 + with message-id and subject line Bug#926832: fixed in di-netboot-assistant 0.63 has caused the Debian Bug report #926832, regarding di-netboot-assistant: di-netboot-assitant Version 0.62 shows Version 0.60 when calling di-netboot-assistant -V to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact ow...@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 926832: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926832 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems --- Begin Message --- Package: di-netboot-assistant Version: 0.62 Severity: minor Dear Maintainer, just wanted to re-check my last bug-report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926795 and noticed this: dpkg --list di-netboot-assistant Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Architecture Description +++----== ii di-netboot-assistant 0.62 all Debian-Installer netboot assistant but: # di-netboot-assistant -V di-netboot-assistant 0.60 Checked VCS für Buster 0.62: https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/netboot-assistant/blob/buster/di-netboot-assistant equal to https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/netboot-assistant/blob/0.62/di-netboot-assistant # -- Declare the constants --- # PACKAGE_NAME=di-netboot-assistant PACKAGE_VERSION=0.60 Best regards, Ralf -- System Information: Debian Release: buster/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 4.19.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Source: di-netboot-assistant Source-Version: 0.63 We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of di-netboot-assistant, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to 926...@bugs.debian.org, and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Andreas B. Mundt (supplier of updated di-netboot-assistant package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 15:50:22 +0200 Source: di-netboot-assistant Binary: di-netboot-assistant Architecture: source all Version: 0.63 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Install System Team Changed-By: Andreas B. Mundt Description: di-netboot-assistant - Debian-Installer netboot assistant Closes: 926832 927510 Changes: di-netboot-assistant (0.63) unstable; urgency=medium . [ Andreas B. Mundt ] * Automatically generate list of images to be purged (autopkgtest). * Add autopkgtest to ensure version strings in package and script are identical (closes: #926832). * Add example 'installbox' and update examples for buster. * Fix keyboard keymap preseeding, ansible-pull and improve README. * Fix testing with qemu/kvm command, BIOS and/or UEFI. * Use boot parameter to define playbook, add example. * Move variables only relevant for the installation before '---'. * Add instructions for u-boot (armhf). * Prepare for salsa-ci. * Bump Standards-Version to 4.4.0 (no changes needed). . [ Cyril Brulebois ] * Remove Christian Perrier from Uploaders, with many thanks for all his contributions over the years! (Closes: #927510) Checksums-Sha1: 98b416bcf9dce3a11b5f04e677077e2ab6e56040 1885 di-netboot-assistant_0.63.dsc 8198400ba4edb5423b07d907ce9eb66fdfd0af21 42376 di-netboot-assistant_0.63.tar.xz 0148464407bc5ade159a6bb4d12e3c0cb50099ae 42356 di-netboot-assistant_0.63_all.deb 3c9a1f7a9d2bd5680aeaca049ff60346cdd3ed1d 5406 di-netboot-assistant_0.63_amd64.buildinfo Checksums-Sha256: 9ea67b5c5b84bf8253c906ab228809346db0eaa64f1a89a917a0c24fda05e822 1885 di-netboot-assistant_0.63.dsc 9716f9cceeadd5db50069bc9dd2d49f45b05096076ddc3210b454b4803bd2afe 42376 di-netboot-assistant_0.63.tar.xz
Bug#927510: marked as done (Updating the di-netboot-assistant Uploaders list)
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Re: Support for non-Debian distros
On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:09:20PM +0300, Nagakamira wrote: > Hi, I found certain distros which are using dpkg package manager as its > default package management system. There's about 2: UHU Linux and Ataraxia > Linux (and Yocto but .deb format can be used optionally). But they aren't > based on Debian (or on its derivative). For example, UHU and Ataraxia are > using repositories which are compatible with APT. That would be great if > you can add support for them. Just because they can use apt doesn't mean the packages are compatible with debian. And if they work with apt, then you can add the repositories to your sources.list yourself. If that doesn't work then almost certainly those packages are not debian compatible. Even ubuntu packages are not always compatible with debian and ubuntu is actually based on debian. -- Len Sorensen
Bug#655507: hw-detect: Improve handling of firmware with PXE installs
I suspect isenkram-autoinstall-firmware from the isenkram-cli package might be a good solution for this issue. See http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatically_locate_and_install_required_firmware_packages_on_Debian__Isenkram_0_4_.html > for some old notes on how to use it. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen
Bug#934040: tasksel: doesn't provide transitional package for task-print-server
Package: tasksel Version: 3.54 Hi, Following #696658, task-print-server was renamed to task-print-service. Running "apt-get dist-upgrade" on current Sid tries to remove task-print-server, without installing task-print-service to replace it. This could be a problem for inexperienced users in the future when Bullseye will be released and they upgrade from Buster. I guess the best solution is to provide an updated version of tasksel which provides a transitional dummy package named task-print-server depending on task-print-service. Regards, -- Raphaël Halimi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
