Bug#683326: apt-setup: translations for all languages are downloaded
Package: apt-setup Severity: wishlist apt-setup should configure apt so that only translations for the languages I have configured on the system are downloaded. Currently, all the various translations are downloaded, slowing down the installation process. -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=nb_NO.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=nb_NO.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120725215123.15177.79824.report...@zeipukor.err.no
Bug#672160: Directory /boot/console-setup
]] Steve Langasek My complaint is that this is excessively ugly. For persistent variable data that needs to be available during early boot, even when this is binary data that the user won't edit, /etc is the normal place to keep it - it's the creation of a a .cache subdirectory that I object to. Very strongly agreed, if we could outright ban using dot directories in packages for anything packaged (except dotfiles in people's ~, which should generally not be something that the packaging cares about), I think that would be a good idea. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r4urnqk2@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
util-linux switch from slang to ncurses
Hi, we're considering switching util-linux from slang to ncurses as per http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581631 . Do you have any input on that, apart from the obvious one that is that we need to have an ncurses-udeb before making the change? Please keep me in Cc, I'm not subscribed. Regards, -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/874o7s8g2o@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: New LILO upstream development
]] Bjørn Mork | Joachim Wiedorn ad_deb...@joonet.de writes: | | After the long silence about the popular bootloader LILO the development | was started again. | | The new Homepage can be found here: | http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/ | | For the development of the bootloader I have started an Alioth project | with Git repository and Mailinglist: | http://alioth.debian.org/projects/lilo/ | | Nice. And thus I learned about bug #573736 Thanks for bringing this to our attention. | $ git clone https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/lilo/lilo.git | Initialized empty Git repository in /usr/local/src/git/lilo/.git/ | error: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt while accessing https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/lilo/lilo.git/info/refs | | fatal: HTTP request failed | | Maybe someone could fix the certificate chain sorting on alioth? I've fixed it now, sorry for the long delay. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sk2h9gww@qurzaw.linpro.no
Re: Bug#569351: linux-2.6: Please support newer Areca controllers
]] Ben Hutchings | On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 18:03 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | Package: linux-2.6 | Severity: important | | Hi, | | we have a host with an 07:00.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. Device 1201 | (aka 07:00.0 0104: 17d3:1201) | | The kernel driver is arcmsr. | | Could you please backport the necessary driver to lenny? | | The driver is already included in lenny kernel images and has this PCI | id in its device id table. It has not changed in any significant way | post-2.6.26. Perhaps it is not included in the appropriate d-i package? | What kind of error are you seeing when trying to use it? Indeed, it works just fine in lenny. I thought it didn't work for some reason and was reluctant to go back to what I thought would be a non-booting kernel. Closing this bug, and sorry about the noise. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ociv5mgp@qurzaw.linpro.no
Re: Removal from Uploaders fields for Debian Installer
* Frans Pop | This mail is to check if you have any objection to being removed as uploader | for any or all of the following components for which you are currently | listed: | debian-installer-utils | netcfg | net-retriever | arch/hppa/palo-installer | arch/sparc/silo-installer Please do, I have no problems with this. | On behalf of the current D-I team I'd like to take this opportunity | to thank you for your contributions to the project and of course | you're always welcome to resume work on the installer. Thanks; It's one of the projects with a very special place in my heart and I'm hoping I'll get back to do some hacking on at least some of the subsystems. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#353556: #353556: choose-mirror: should check that architecture is supported by mirror
* Frans Pop | The attached patch will check if the architecture is supported by reading | the index.html file for the binary-$arch directory and checking if there | is a reference to a Packages.gz file in that. If the arch is not | supported, the wget will return 404 and the check will fail. Ew. So we don't support mirrors which don't provide indices? Why not just do a HEAD request instead? (Yes, wget doesn't support it yet, but that would be a much nicer way to do it and should be easy enough to fix.) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#229648: cdebconf: seen handling broken
yes, as a config script. 04:43 tausq-h so at this point, it is running with one instance of debconf -- one frontend (say text) and one db module (say rfc822db, with config.dat open) 04:43 tausq-h right? 04:43 Mithrandir yes 04:43 tausq-h so now, i choose some option to configure the system, and witho ut exiting the first instance of debconf, it tries to run udpkg to install/confi gure some packages? 04:43 Mithrandir yes 04:44 tausq-h so, while main-menu has an open fd of the config.dat, udpkg/dpk g-reconfigure will try to reopen and modify that open config.dat, don't you thin k that's wrong? 04:45 tausq-h or rather, is not supported by debconf aiui 04:45 Mithrandir yes, that's not something we want. 04:45 tausq-h here i'm using debconf as the spec, not the implementations 04:45 tausq-h ok 04:45 Mithrandir however, there is nothing preventing udpkg from talking to t he first debconf instance. 04:46 tausq-h yes, and you do not do that using dpkg-reconfigure 04:47 tausq-h how will dpkg-reconfigure know there's another instance of debc onf running anyway? do you pass some environment to it? 04:47 tausq-h i guess DEBCONF_HAS_FRONTEND might be set... 04:48 Mithrandir DEBCONF_HAS_FRONTEND, yes 04:49 Mithrandir bingo 04:49 Mithrandir I fixed it in main-menu 04:49 tausq-h and if the fd that is being used to communicate between main-me nu and the 1st debconf instance belongs to those processes, how does the new dpk g-reconfigure talk to that first set of fds ? 04:49 Mithrandir udpkg --configure will happily reconfigure. 04:49 Mithrandir they are dup()-ed. 04:49 Mithrandir they are stdin and stdout. 04:49 tausq-h oh, right, duh, sorry 04:50 tausq-h happily reconfigure by talking to one instance? or to two insta nces? 04:50 Mithrandir one. 04:50 tausq-h oh : 04:50 tausq-h ) 04:50 tausq-h how did you do that? 04:50 Mithrandir just udpkg --configure 04:50 tausq-h *boggle* 04:51 Mithrandir udpkg is stupid enough that it doesn't check whether the pac kage is already configured or not. 04:51 Mithrandir which suits us excellently. :) 04:51 tausq-h heh 04:52 tausq-h i'm surprised we're still using it actually, i thought busybox has a dpkg implementation 04:52 Mithrandir it has, but nobody has actually taken the work it is to use that one instead. 04:52 tausq-h heh 04:52 tausq-h i haven't looked at it, is it more or less the same as udpkg? i know glenn was porting udpkg to busybox at one point 04:53 Mithrandir no idea. 04:53 tausq-h k 04:54 tausq-h hrm, it's gotten quite a bit bigger :) 04:54 Mithrandir anyhow.. it's 04:54 here now, and I guess I should catch som e sleep. I'll run this through with Marvin-- tomorrow.. he'll probably scream a little, but accept it. 04:54 tausq-h -rwxr-xr-x1 randolph randolph13032 Nov 23 19:49 udpkg 04:55 tausq-h Mithrandir: :) thanks much for wokring on all this :) 04:55 * tausq-h feels bad for making lots of noise and not contributing code 04:55 tausq-h but am busy on other fronts 04:56 Mithrandir that's ok. I appreciate the work joeyh and you've done to g et this started and am grateful for being able to bring this project on. it's f un and a hell of a lot bigger than anything I've done before. 05:10 * tausq-h nods, it's looking good, and i'm so glad we got rid of boot-flo ppies :P Yes, this should probably have gone into the changelog, but please consider the time of day. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: two successful install reports (except for hostname problem)
* Joey Hess | Debian-installer-version: Jan 1st netinst from ~manty + Jan 30th hd-media Oh, do you have any other hd-media from the future as well? | I think the best fix for this would be to make netcfg ask at priority | high for a hostname. The other option is to make base-config ask at high | if the hostname is debian, but to get this into beta 2 would delay the | beta by at least 3 days (testing propigation). Also, by the time we get | to base-config, the hostname has been encoded in more files than | base-config knows about (including: motd, pap-secrets, hosts). | | I also think we should ask for a hostname if dhcp does not provide one, | instead of again defaulting to debian. | | If we don't fix this, it will need to go into the errata. I think we should defer all questions as long as we can, so if we don't need the hostname in d-i, base-config should ask about it and set it. However, the reason why it was asked about in d-i is that else you get some weird errors during base install. So, unless we fix base so that it doesn't funk up when installing with hostname unset, we should bump the priority of the netcfg hostname question. Having b-c ask if it equals to debian is an ugly hack, and we shouldn't do that. If so, we should rather have something which people will not choose automatically, like debian-default-hostname, which b-c can then ask about. motd isn't a problem -- it is rewritten on each boot. does pap-secrets include hostname? hosts includes it. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge netinst: wrong sequence of SCSI drives
* Martin Sjögren | I cannot reach cvs.alioth, I can't even reach alioth... It's down due to hardware problems. Was supposed to get up again yesterday, but it didn't. Hopefully, we'll see it up and running in a short while. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Report for debian Installer
* (Lars Otte) Please send those to -boot, not to me personally. | d-i REPORT | == | | the debian-installer fails to detect Network-cards on 2 Computers. | | It look like you must have a networkcard for installing with d-i, | d-i everytime jumps back to Detect Network Hardware because detect | fails. this is a bug! You don't need a netword card unless you have downloaded a netinst image. Those do, of course, require a network connection. Also, it's a bit hard to help when you don't tell what kind of network card you have. | it is not possible to give module parameters, but my Networkcard need them: | | modprobe ne io=0x300 | (without io=0x300 detection fails) It is, but you need to lower the debconf priority. | On my Notebook detection of the PCMCIA-Networkcard fails, | but PCMCIA_CS support my Networkcard... A little more error information would be helpful. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer
* Sebastian Ley | The more I think of it, the more I start to dislike it ;-) Imagine how | much work it really is to do such a thing. There must be | #udebs x #frontends of custom widgets. If a change in the module | involves a change in the UI, all frontend widgets must be changed. I | don't know if that is feasable... Why do you think each and every udeb needs a custom widget? The only one which really needs it is the partitioner, IMHO. Adding good support for grouping questions would, for instance, make netcfg-static not suck the way it does today. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reiser support in debian-installer
* Alastair McKinstry [...] | (2) A reiserfsprogs udeb, (built from the reiserfsprogs package, I | presume) that provides /sbin/mkfs.reiserfs. (I know that the reiserfs | version is actually called mkreiserfs, but the name is important) | This shoulde then depend on (1). [...] We are also looking for a good way to have the various mkfs-es provide som progress output to use for the progress bar. Basically, what we need to do is come up with some common, easy-to-parse format which can then be massaged and fed to cdebconf. Currently, we display a blue screen while the mkfs is running and this is clearly unacceptable when a full mkfs may take many minutes. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New d-i debcamp in a few months?
* Petter Reinholdtsen | How many are interested in going to such event? Where are you | located in the world? | | I've noted the following interested people: | | Michael Cardenas - San Diego, USA | Sebastian Ley - Aachen, Germany | Petter Reinholdtsen - Oslo, Norway | Thorsten Sauter - Stuttgart, Germany | | For this to happen, I need more people interested in going there. Tollef Fog Heen - Trondheim, Norway (given that I have some money and it doesn't collide with a customer project meeting or other silliness.) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why should prebaseconfig depend on created-fstab?
* Petter Reinholdtsen | Why would prebaseconfig need to depend on created-fstab? I believe it | should be sufficient to depend on bootable-system, and let the boot | loaders depend on created-fstab. Do not all the providers of | bootable-system need /target/etc/fstab to do their magic? some chrp systems have openfirmware which understand file systems, so they don't need a boot loader at all, they just need a kernel installed. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#201857: does not build on powerpc
* Matt Kraai | On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 09:35:30AM +0100, Alastair McKinstry wrote: | is it possible to use floppies formatted for 1.6 M on the powerpc? | If so, we will use the 'full' busybox-cvs-udeb; if not it might be | very hard to build powerpc floppies. | | I don't know, my iBook2 doesn't have a floppy drive. I don't know | if you can even boot a Mac from a floppy. you can, it's the only way to boot oldworlds, iirc, at least. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#201707: No hostname without netcfg
* Sebastian Ley | * Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | If it's set in d-i, that should be used by base-config, else | base-config should ask, imho | | The problem is, that it is asked in netcfg which should not be | mandatory for an installation. why is that a problem? | So moving it to base-config would ensure that it is asked | regardless. just ask the question in netcfg and base-config and db_get it afterwards. it'll be skipped in base-config once we get the debconf db migration working. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-installer/retriever/floppy/debian by sjogren
* (Denis Barbier) | Martin, please always run debconf-updatepo after modifying templates files. can't you fix the rules files so that it's done automatically? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#201707: No hostname without netcfg
* Sebastian Ley | * Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: | | It would be nice if the user had a hostname after an install which | does not include networking. | | In my opinion, the question for a hostname should be relayed to | base-config. There is no need for it before a reboot, and d-i's main | principle is to do only the necessary things. IIRC this has been | discussed before, perhaps we should come to an agreement here now and | remove the question from netcfg. If it's set in d-i, that should be used by base-config, else base-config should ask, imho -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#201214: debconfclient.h macros waste space in binary
* Joey Hess [...] | Nearly any whitespace used like that wastes memory. Can anyone think of | a way to error out at compile time on those? grep for them? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No floppy drive - sarge
* Petter Reinholdtsen | Yes, the hw-detect package from the ddetect source will always try to | load the floppy module. This is because I believe it can not always | be automatically detected, and we need this module loaded on machines | with a floppy drive to be able to load more udebs from floppy. Most systems shouldn't need a floppy at all.. loading the floppy module causes some problems om laptops without floppy drives, but with a floppy controller as well. | Please register it as a bug against the package hw-detect. I do not | know how to solve it properly yet. The missing floppy station should | on the other hand not make the HW detection step fail, so if this is | the case we can try to solve that first. I think we should stop autoloading the floppy module. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#200669: base-installer: Please update french translation of the debconf templates
bugs 200669 + pending thanks * Michel Grentzinger | Please find the attached fr.po file, which is an update for the french | translation of the debconf templates. This file has been reviewed by | the contributors of the debian-l10n-french mailing-list. | | Could you add this file to the debian/po/ directory of this package ? applied. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] debian-installer / mips(el) - remove libdetect dependency
* Florian Lohoff | Hi, | needed - no libdetect for mips(el) [...] thanks, applied -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer tasks for debcamp
* Martin Sjögren | Hello everbody. I'm sure you're just aching to know how to help the | debian-installer project :-) so I thought I'd post a list of a few | things that I know we need help with. We probably need a lot more help | than I can think of right now, but feel free to reply to the mail and | add more things. [...] | * We have a terrible lack of usb and pcmcia support. A lot of work | is needed here. Can't tell you more about this, since I know | basically nothing about it. | | * There's of course the [4]porting... We'll have at least a few powerpcs around, and I think somebody was bringing a MIPS motherboard as well. | * The network configuration stuff is something of a mess, really. dhcp | should be much smoother, and should really hostname configuration be in | netcfg? no, it should probably be in base-config, but if the dhcp client has gotten any extra information, it should be passed on so that both the rest of d-i and base-config can get at it. dhcp is an incredibly powerful protocol.. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it wise to use discover in d-i?
* Thorsten Sauter | Coudn't we use the RedHat discovering tool? I thing it's better under | development and support more hardware (RedHat needs to extend the | supported haradware everytime) IIRC, kudzu's library is a lot larger than discover, so we'd need a second floppy for i386, which would really suck. I might remember wrong, though. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: daily d-i builds
* Matt Kraai | On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 03:55:14PM -0500, Joe Nahmias wrote: | It seems that the daily d-i builds aren't so daily: | | According to the build log[1], there is something wrong with the | Makefile: | | Makefile:224: *** missing separator. Stop. it has been fixed now; I had a conflict in my Makefile. I might miss mails to -boot, though it's one of the lists I try to read closely, so mailing me privately or mentioning it on IRC is a faster and more reliable way to get my attention on such matters as this. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building d-i
* | I am confused. install libdebian-installer3? yes, install it. | I thought I was trying to build it. Are you saying we have recursive | dependencies? No. I'm saying to build a boot-floppy you need libdebian-installer3 somewhere. Unlike boot-floppies, d-i usually shouldn't be built full from the CVS, but rather from the archive. And yes, some parts which are needed to build a d-i boot floppy in d-i CVS. And they need to be installed in the host system. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building d-i
* | I want to build the version of d-i I just checked out of CVS and test | it. I don't see that what you suggest advances that. build libdebian-installer, install libdebian-installer, build the rest of d-i. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building d-i
* | The 'make install' for libdebian-installer has put the libraries in | place, but of course the next phase is trying to install stuff that | wants the libdebian-installer package in place. libdebian-installer is a debian package, which you build by using dpkg-buildpackage and then install using dpkg. | I don't see anything in build/README that tells me how to make the | package, nor in the Makefile for libdebian-installer. obviously not, since you should ordinarily not build libdebian-installer yourself, you should just install it into your host system. libdebian-installer is a normal debian package, which is built like all normal debian packages. Please, please read all the stuff doc/*, the various README files lying around and the Developer's Reference. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building d-i, no longer Further difficulties with install
* | For starters, it's woody. If there's no list, would someone mail a woody | package list to $(echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sed -e s=debian=summer=) | for a system that does build d-i and I will tell you what I needed to | add to my system. Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: anna: Depends: libdebian-installer3 (= 0.10) but it is not installable ethdetect: Depends: libdebian-installer3 (= 0.10) but it is not installable Depends: libdiscover1 but it is not installable main-menu: Depends: libdebian-installer3 (= 0.10) but it is not installable netcfg-dhcp: Depends: libdebian-installer3 (= 0.10) but it is not installable netcfg-static: Depends: libdebian-installer3 (= 0.10) but it is not installable pump-udeb: Depends: libpopt0 (= 1.6.4) but 1.6.2-7 is to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages Build and install those, or just install those available in Woody. libd-i is part of d-i cvs. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i: depmod fails on Alpha
* Falk Hueffner | I'm running kernel 2.5.59. Is that a problem? Or any other ideas? That's most likely the problem, yes. depmod uses the running kernel for some stuff, it seems. :/ -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Further difficulties with install
* | I don't see any build instructions there though. build/README perhaps? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing library libbogl.so.0 in d-i's today build
* Andre Luis Lopes | I'm trying to build d-i for the first time in order to help testing it | and to check if my translations are really being used. I tried to to it | by using the following comando in d-i's build/ directory (after | installing the needed build-depencies by hand) : [...] | Library not found: libbogl.so.0 in path: /lib/ : /usr/lib/ : | /usr/X11R6/lib/ | make: *** [net-tree-stamp] Error 1 Have you installed libbogl0? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new menu items
* Alastair McKinstry | I have uploaded/am uploading two modules | srm-reader | efi-reader | | which read firmware variables from the Alpha SRM BIOS and ia64 bios | respectively. These are then put into debconf as defaults. | These then need to be set before anything else, ie languagechooser at | 10, hence into the reserved space. Why do they need to be menu items at all, they should rather be run sometime in rcS.d, shouldn't they? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i and DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
* | I found Joey's daily d-i builds;-) You want mine, rather than his. His are ancient. | I actually spent quite a bit of tine looking for something like it on | the website, and failed. Some getting started info is available at http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html , including links to daily builds (the ones you found were from Nov 8th :). -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i and DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
* | On 14 Mar 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: [...] | You want mine, rather than his. His are ancient. | | I know. | | Take a look at the README in CVS!! fixed, thanks. [...] | Some getting started info is available at | http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html , including links to daily | | Link to it from the Sarge info on the Debian website. I'll look into that. | Which initrd should I use with vmlinuz for my PXE boot? net-initrd.gz -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DHCP Network Configuration
* | My DHCP server is configured to offer this machine the hostname | Nabarlek. My own installer gets the name from the kernel commandline: | ip=192.168.0.130:192.168.0.1:192.168.0.1:255.255.255.0:Nabarlek Is nabarlek available from somewhere in /proc? In /proc/sys/kernel/hostname, perhaps? If so, I can fix it. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DHCP Network Configuration
* | Is this information correct? | interface = eth0 | hostname = Nabarlek | domain = none | dhcp hostname = none | nameservers= none | Prompt: yes/no, default=yes | | The DHCP server provides all that information, if asked. This prompt is going away, I just need to commit that. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ext3, reiserfs in the sarge-installer .. and bug report
* Kees van den Broek | I thought you were the main debian-install developer. I don't know to | what newsgroup to post the question. So I hope you don't mind asking | you directly. No problem, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the correct address, but anyhow.. Cc-ing them. | I just downloaded the testing installer at: | http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/sarge-i386-netinst.iso | | Works fine for me on my toshiba laptop (typing: net at the lilo boot | prompt), there's just one problem. I can only create EXT2 | filesystems. I can't find any module that allows me to use EXT3 or | ReiserFS. | Is it still a feature-in-progress or not planned at all? ext3 should work ok, but you need to load the module. reiserfs is not much work, but nobody has started on it yet. | I found a problem in the installer: | After partitioning my harddisk I got back to the main menu and wanted | to select another mirror. So I chose 33 again to select another mirror | in the Netherlands. That's when I got an error saying: | /home/martin/projects/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/frontend.c:133 | (grondend_new): Cannot load frontend module | /usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/newt.so: libnewt.so.0.50: cannot open | shared object file: No such file or directory \033[9;0] | It kept repeating this message on and on, so I had to reboot... I'm not sure what the problem here is, perhaps Martin or Petter can shed some light on the problem? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ext3 problems
* Matt Kraai | On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:35:24PM -0800, Cardenas wrote: | Unfortunately, I selected ext3 the first time for my file | system. Apparently the kernel on the floppy doesn't have ext3 support, | and as a result the lilo postinst failed, and upon first boot, the | root partition could not be mounted. | | I have installed with ext3 and LILO. What was the error message? the ext3 module is now priority standard, but for some reason mkfs.ext3 wants /etc/mtab to exist, so it has been made into a symlink to /proc/mounts. This _should_ work, and should have been for a few days. mbc, it's good if you report exactly what version you tried when reporting bugs. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer status 2003-02-21
* Larry Gilbert | Tollef Fog Heen wrote: |Also, having somebody with a good touch for English to go |through the templates would be nice. | | I wouldn't mind helping with this, but I can't seem to figure out how | to check out debian-installer from the CVS server (using | -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-installer gives me | /cvs/debian-installer: no such repository). And once I do so, I'm | not sure I'll know where the templates are. :-) Look at http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html for some information on getting started. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#181975: di-utils-mkfs: failure with unpartitioned hard drive
* Oskar Liljeblad | The fix is either to tell the user that there are no partitions, | or (IMHO the preferred way for experts) allow the user to create | a file system on the whole disk. Theoretical (untested) fix | below. IMNSHO, it should say «no partitions available». If you are doing this, you are advanced enough to do this in a shell as well. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-installer status 2003-02-21
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Since the last status report, almost three months have passed, we have had a quite successful alpha release and much has changed. Debian-installer is still able to install Debian, so that hasn't changed. :) The goals set in the last status report before alpha: menu ordering, unbreaking of mkfs, fix mounting and adding a log-tool are mostly done. Still outstanding is the addition of a self-test/logging tool. Martin has done some good work on getting Release file support into anna and the retrievers, though the archive doesn't have working Release files for sarge (since the debian-installer part of sarge is just a symlink to sid, for the time being); optimally, what I'd like is getting anna to support gpg and verify the full integrity of the install. One would then only have to trust the integrity of the initial boot media; a compromised mirror would be detected immediately. cdebconf has gotten a slang frontend, which seems to work reasonably well, but looks ugly and has some strange hangs unaccounted for in addition to at least a non-implemented progress bar. Screenshots[1] courtesy of Martin. We've also gotten a progress bar into cdebconf, as well as an HTTP backend. Some work has been done on the gtk frontend, but nothing solid yet. Help here is appreciated. Santiago Garcia Mantinan has done some great work on getting daily built CD netinst and business card-sized images online. [2] The netinst images contain debian-installer and the base packages, the business card-sized ones just debian-installer. A lot of work has been going into infrastructure work, such as finding a method of installing extra packages into the base system. This is needed for EVMS, grub and some other packages in addition to the kernel-installer. This means kernel-images will be installed from normal Debian packages, unlike in boot-floppies where they were just copied off the floppy/CD, something which has caused confusion in the past. We now have some new udebs as well, such as keyboard selection and language chooser and autopartitioner. Good work, those of you working on those. So, now it's time for the big and ugly TODO list. :) - - Porting. As usual, some ports are in a better shape than others, and some are in serious trouble even before they are begun. m68k and sparc32 are in the latter category, since they have problems with 2.4, which is needed due to devfs. - - de-uglification of the slang frontend and progress bar addition to cdebconf. - - gtkfb/graphical install. Work has been done, but this need to get more solid and onto the CDs. - - testing. More testing, more bug reports. If somebody who knows a bit about usability could begin looking and guiding us, it would be good. Also, having somebody with a good touch for English to go through the templates would be nice. - - automated installs and testing. If somebody could give automated installations and how to get those working better a shot, it'd be cool. Getting the report tool (which should fill out the report template available at http://raw.no/d-i/report-template.html) written would make it easier for testers to give us good reports. - - fix the ext3 problem; mkfs.ext3 gives an error about «file not found» (which is really that it can't find /etc/mtab). mkswap should also be added. - - base-config - d-i integration. The debconf db should be seeded with the values from debian-installer. Exactly how to do this is not clear yet. We are moving into a more polish/integration phase; most of the major building blocks are in place, but many are missing critical features. This means that non-x86 arches should get moving with regards to getting debian-installer at least roughly working, if they need changes to central parts of debian-installer. As always, feedback, flames, comments and ideas are appreciated. [1] http://people.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/screenshots/2003-02-16/slang/ [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2003/debian-cd-200301/msg00121.html - -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Please see my GPG key at http://raw.no/gpgkey.asc iD8DBQE+VkWwQSseMYF6mWoRAvdRAJ9wHWv9+Yl0TbTXeSP1+mgxwVZGuwCgxrbl IP1TsRhZu/yUwOhA6BBhHZk= =IjeO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some design issues with autopartkit
* Petter Reinholdtsen | I could solve this by letting other udeb packages supply scripts which | will be executed by the autopartkit udeb, something like prebaseconfig | is doing at the moment. But how do I make sure that the udeb with | this script is installed before autopartkit is installed? I believe I | want some 'Install-before: autopartkit' in debian/control. Is there | another way? Depends on a virtual package? | Is it OK for me to create /usr/lib/autopartkit.d/ for script fragments | to run before autopartkit is executed? sure -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udebs with , in the description
* Martin Sjögren | I have already filed a bug on pango, should I file on the rest too? The | first two have 'standard' priority and the other two are 'optional' so | they at least are potential anna-wreckers. go ahead. | Second, we really need to go over all the descriptions of udebs that are | shown by anna, many are very non-descript and many have tags like for | debian-installer or udeb which is totally useless for the people who | are going to read it! :) true. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing extra packages into /target/ - suggested design
* Petter Reinholdtsen | The script will check if base-installer was successfully completed, | and in this case will run 'apt-get install' try to fetch and install | the packages. If base-installer isn't completed, it will add the | package name to /etc/dpkginstall-queue.conf. I'm not sure using apt is a good thing for this. It would mean that your sources.list would have to be correctly set up and (for cd/floppy/nfs installs) the media should be mounted inside the chroot, in the right place. How do you propose we ensure this? I think using basepkg-installer (not in CVS yet) is a better choice, since it reuses debootstrap functionality and is a lot simpler than using apt. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing extra packages into /target/ - suggested design
* Petter Reinholdtsen | [Tollef Fog Heen] | I'm not sure using apt is a good thing for this. It would mean that | your sources.list would have to be correctly set up and (for | cd/floppy/nfs installs) the media should be mounted inside the | chroot, in the right place. How do you propose we ensure this? | | I solved this by calling APT twice, once to download the package with | root on /, and once to installing with root on /target. This works. | The code look like this (from rootskel - apt-install): | | PATH=$PATH:/target/usr/bin:/target/bin:/target/usr/sbin:/target/sbin \ | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib:/lib:/target/usr/lib:/target/lib \ | /target/usr/bin/apt-get \ | -o Dir::State=/target/var/lib/apt \ | -o Dir::State::status=/target/var/lib/dpkg/status \ | -o Dir::Cache=/target/var/cache/apt \ | -o Dir::Etc=/target/etc/apt \ | -o Dir::Bin::methods=/target/usr/lib/apt/methods \ | -o Dir::Bin::gzip=/target/bin/gzip \ | -o Dir::Bin::dpkg=/target/usr/bin/dpkg \ | -o Dpkg::Options::=--root=/target \ | -y --download-only install $* This breaks when libc breaks backwards compat, doesn't it? Undefined symbols and such? (And as a minor point, we want $@ not $*). And it requires sources.list set up. | I would rather have something that handles dependencies. So would I. But I'd like to have it in debootstrap. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debootstrap-udeb: ln -s mawk $TARGET/usr/bin/awk fails
* Mario Lang | Using the netinst floppy from d-i, bootstrapping into /target | fails. in /target/var/log/debootstrap.err.log I have: | | ln: /target/usr/bin/awk: File exists | | I think the offending line is that one: | | ln -s mawk $TARGET/usr/bin/awk | | in the sarge script. | | I'm at a loss about why we needed the ln in the first place. | any comments? You probably have an installation on the disk already. P'haps it should be changed to ln -sf? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [d-i] Choosing the install kernel?
* Petter Reinholdtsen | This now package kernel-chooser will look at the current architecture, | distribution and possibly /proc/cpuinfo, and choose the best kernel | among the packages implementing the virtual package kernel-image. The | name of the kernel is stored into debian-installer/kernel/image and | the correct package is installed by kernel-installer. Any objections? It should be a low-priority question where one can override the default, but except for that, looks good. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: daily d-i build fails
* Matt Kraai | The daily debian-installer builds have been failing since | 2003-01-21 with the following error[1]: | | syslinux: not root and no appropriate entry for |/media/home/builder/debian-installer/build/dest/tmp-mnt.img in /etc/fstab | make: *** [dest/net-1440.img] Error 1 | | Would you please fix this? thanks, fixed. That's what one gets for reorganizing one's hard drives. :/ -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Evil idea concerning kernel modules, hardware detection and anna
* Martin Sjögren | I have no idea if this can/will work out in practice. It's a hack, but | I'm not sure if it's a big ugly hack or a nice, neat hack. ;) [...] | So, what did I miss? Will this work or not? If it works, is it feasible? | The Provides line can be auto-generated and stuff so that shouldn't be a | *big* problem. This is quite evil, but also quite neat.. Something like what I proposed on IRC the other day, I think. I don't see any other, better way to solve this problem. We might end up with some weird corner cases if we don't have a retriever yet and such, though. | I guess figuring out which retriever to use will be tricky, but we'll | still have the interactive mode for anna too. true. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nightly d-i builds don't use libdebian-installer3
* Matt Kraai | Would you please use libdebian-installer3 0.11 when building | nightly d-i images? Version 0.10 is totally broken. I'm using whatever is in unstable (at least when I remember to dist-upgrade my home workstation). if a library in d-i is broken then you are free to upload a fixed version. This applies to all -boot hackers, not just those listed in the Uploaders field. (Of course, please fix changelog and tag before uploading, but apart from that there is no black magic involved). | Is there a package I should have reported this against? Not really, to me or the list or on irc is probably the best. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#177343: grub-installer: Should support all archs supported by grub
* Martin Sjögren | I think this is a bit tricky... udebs that are used *after* | base-installer don't really need stuff in the ramdisk, they can use | stuff that are in /target. So how do we let udebs depend on something | (e.g. grub) so that it'll be installed along with base? Through the not-yet-written «we want this package installed in the base system» module. I'll give it a shot. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Estimated time left in progress bar?
* (Denis Barbier) | In order to propose a better design we have to know how progress | bars will be used. Your example in anna is lightening, are there | other possible uses? Are several progress bars needed? Several ones would be good for base-installation (so it can show how far it has done in each step, and a full one), but not crucial. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: no boot floppies for testing))
* Cassandra Lynette Brockett | Which sounds to me like just the right way to handle it... I'm going to | spend some time over the next week or so figuring out how to get a the | debian-installer stuff working for what I need done here... expect a | flurry of reports on it... hmm... watching another thread in the debian-boot | list begs the question - which package do I list the reports under? Currently, most of the bugs are just reported on this list (or on #debian-boot on irc.debian.org). | Is there a debian-installer package in the bug-system already? If | so, I'll find it when I need to, but if there is another package I | should list the reports under, I'll be happy to add them there. if the b-f maintainers agree, «install» would be a sensible choice, since b-fs are not going to be developed a lot more, just maintained. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#174410: questionable interpretation of install pseudo-package
* Colin Watson | Which is why I'm suggesting they be segregated - sorry, I wasn't very | clear above. However, there does need to be a designated place for | people to file d-i bugs (if they don't know what udeb is at fault, as | they probably won't for the most part). Zefram reassigned a bunch of | bugs to 'debian-installer' today, which doesn't exist. If it should, and | install/installation/installation-reports/upgrade-reports aren't | adequate for whatever reason, somebody (Tollef?) needs to request it. «install» is the correct package for d-i bugs, boot-floppies for boot-floppies bugs. | Would your request be satisfied if any bugs against install/installation | regarding boot-floppies were reassigned to the package of that name, and | the boot-floppies developers agree not to brush off bugs filed there | with won't happen in boot-floppies (and to reassign bugs to | install/installation as appropriate)? | | Honestly, I don't think the boot-floppies guys will or should agree to | that. The priority for d-i is still to make things work roughly as well as | b-f's, not to make sure random annoyances from b-f's don't show up again. | | Sure; but there are plenty of wishlists that have been explicitly left | around as ideas for future installation system developers. To quote Adam | di Carlo in e.g. #64570: I'm planning on stealing a bunch of the wontfix, wishlist bugs from boot-floppies, since they are really meant to be against the installation system and not a specific implementation of it. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: no boot floppies for testing))
* Zefram | What would have avoided my confusion would be a note in the release list | or the installation manual (preferably both) explicitly saying The | testing distribution cannot be installed directly; install stable and | then upgrade.. I can't currently find on the website any indication | that testing differs from stable in any respect other than the maturity | of the code. But that's not true. What's true is that you can't install testing or sid using boot-floppies. However, boot-floppies are EOL-ed and being replaced with the new debian-installer. debian-installer was recently released in an alpha version, and until it is more stable, I think it is reasonable that it's not better documented how to get it installed. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: no boot floppies for testing))
* Cassandra Lynette Brockett | But where in the documentation does it mention that boot-floppies | are being EOL-ed? I only found this out after people started | yelling at me because I wanted to add some more functionality to the | boot-floppies, and so far I still am yet to find out information on | how to actually install using debian-installer. I've sent out monthly announcements on the progress of debian-installer for about six months to debian-devel-announce. The release of the alpha version was both slashdotted and featured on Debianplanet. So, I wouldn't call it very secret or hidden. True, it's not documented on the web pages, but if you intend to help out with Debian development, debian-devel-announce is one of the more important lists to be subscribed to. Searching for «debian-installer» on google turns up cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/doc/ as the first link. I do not know why the search engine on www.debian.org does not search cvs.debian.org, nor lists.debian.org. | Well, there are some of us who want to help, and make changes to the | system to improve it, there are also others who have great ideas, | but can't code to save their life, and expecting those users to come | up with code patches because you don't want to see messages asking | for improvements just ranks high on my list of wrong. As the last status report says: : If you want to help out, please take a look at : http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html and especially the TODO list : at http://url.raw.no/?101 You can find the full alpha announcement at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200212/msg2.html (sorry about the long link), which should get you started. Hope this helps. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdebconf http backend and choice/choice-description independence
* (Denis Barbier)
| On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:49:09PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| [...]
| Those aren't checked in yet; I'll send patches here for the
| Choices-Description so people have a chance to complain ;)
|
| I would like to complain, could you please send your patches ;)
Yeah, and it'll break binary compatibility, so we need to up soname.
Ugh.
Index: debian/changelog
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/debian/changelog,v
retrieving revision 1.79
diff -u -r1.79 changelog
--- debian/changelog23 Dec 2002 09:51:31 - 1.79
+++ debian/changelog23 Dec 2002 09:52:32 -
@@ -18,6 +18,8 @@
* Tollef Fog Heen:
- Move rfc822 functions into libcdebconf from rfc822db module
- Fix getwidth to work properly on serial consoles. Hopefully.
+- Add support for having Choices' descriptions separate from their
+ values.
-- Randolph Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:02:59 -0800
Index: src/template.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/template.c,v
retrieving revision 1.21
diff -u -r1.21 template.c
--- src/template.c 19 Dec 2002 00:38:44 - 1.21
+++ src/template.c 23 Dec 2002 09:52:34 -
@@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
type,
default,
choices,
+choices_description,
description,
extended_description,
NULL
@@ -124,6 +125,7 @@
q = p-next;
DELETE(p-defaultval);
DELETE(p-choices);
+ DELETE(p-choices_description);
DELETE(p-description);
DELETE(p-extended_description);
DELETE(p);
@@ -169,6 +171,7 @@
{
to-defaultval = STRDUP(from-defaultval);
to-choices = STRDUP(from-choices);
+to-choices_description = STRDUP(from-description);
to-description = STRDUP(from-description);
to-extended_description = STRDUP(from-extended_description);
@@ -192,6 +195,8 @@
return p-defaultval;
else if (strcasecmp(field, choices) == 0)
return p-choices;
+else if (strcasecmp(field, choices_description) == 0)
+return p-choices_description;
else if (strcasecmp(field, description) == 0)
return p-description;
else if (strcasecmp(field, extended_description) == 0)
@@ -212,6 +217,11 @@
DELETE(p-choices);
p-choices = STRDUP(value);
}
+else if (strcasecmp(field, choices_description) == 0)
+{
+DELETE(p-choices_description);
+p-choices_description = STRDUP(value);
+}
else if (strcasecmp(field, description) == 0)
{
DELETE(p-description);
@@ -507,6 +517,25 @@
}
else if (strstr(p, Choices: ) == p t != 0)
template_lset(t, NULL, choices, p+9);
+ else if (strstr(p, Choices-Description: ) == p t != 0)
+ template_lset(t, NULL, choices_description, p+21);
+ else if (strstr(p, Choices-Description-: ) == p t != 0)
+ {
+ cp = strstr(p, .UTF-8: );
+ if (cp != NULL cp != p+20)
+ {
+ lang = strndup(p+20, (int) (cp - p - 20));
+ template_lset(t, lang, choices_description, cp+20);
+ }
+ else
+ {
+#ifndef NODEBUG
+ fprintf(stderr, Unknown localized field:\n%s\n, p);
+#endif
+continue;
+ }
+ }
+
else if (strstr(p, Choices-) == p t != 0)
{
cp = strstr(p, .UTF-8: );
Index: src/template.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/template.h,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.7 template.h
--- src/template.h 7 Dec 2002 23:02:40 - 1.7
+++ src/template.h 23 Dec 2002 09:52:34 -
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
char *language;
char *defaultval;
char *choices;
+char *choices_description;
char *description;
char *extended_description;
struct template_l10n_fields *next;
Index: src/modules/frontend/text/text.c
===
RCS file:
/cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/text/text.c,v
retrieving revision 1.29
diff -u -r1.29 text.c
--- src/modules/frontend/text/text.c23 Dec 2002 09:48:46 - 1.29
+++ src/modules/frontend/text/text.c23 Dec 2002 09:52:35 -
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
* friendly implementation. I've taken care to make the prompts
Re: Patch for small cd images and producing them officially?
* jason andrade | On 20 Dec 2002, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | Why not both? | | frankly i don't see the point in the proliferation of different ISO formats | from a mirror point of view. i'd prefer to see official debian cd images as: | | o a single lightweight netinst iso per architecture | | - allows end users to get a base debian install up and grab further | stuff from their closest mirror This is good to have, but some people, like me, like to keep business-card sized CD-Rs around in their wallet for performing Debian blitz installs ;) A d-i + base image will be too big to fit on a business-card sized CD-R. Apart from that, I agree with you. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdebconf http backend and choice/choice-description independence
It's amazing what one gets done while on a train, travelling :) http backend now seems to work, at least for getting the templates. Setting doesn't work, naturally. It uses wget for downloading the templates, and some rearranging in rfc822db exporting the stanza parsing functions to src/rfc822.c; I'll get template_load to use those as well, since they are, IMNSHO, a lot better than having two rfc822 parsers (one generic and one specialized) in cdebconf. As a bonus, I added support for Choices having a Choices-Description-field, which is used instead of the normal choices field if it is available. That means that whatever values main-menu and friends work with internally does _not_ have to be the same as the values displayed to the user. Those aren't checked in yet; I'll send patches here for the Choices-Description so people have a chance to complain ;) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Working Network Installs
* Cassandra Lynette Brockett | So, a quick question... how would I go about getting the work I've done | submitted, I still need to document however (which should be in my opinion | additional documentation for the the debian install document), and I plan on | doing that during the rest of this week as time permits, but before I go on | with documenting and such forth, should I even bother? Is anyone | interested? Network installs are quite well working for debian-installer, using PXElinux and an initrd (that's my primary testing method FTTB). I'm not sure if there's enough interest to make it work well with old boot-floppies, but if you want to work on that, please do. Documentation on how to get it working with b-fs might be good, though I wouldn't waste too much time trying to get it to work if it isn't easily fixed. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing debian-installer kernel
* RP | I'm not sure that I'm not making a foolish question but here it goes: | how can I replace the linux kernel in a debian-installer net flavor floppy? Yes. | I tried it and it works... until trying to detect the hard | disk... here it fails with some kind of printk file not found. The | problem is with the new kernel or with the floppy? You need to point the download retriever to somewhere it can get the IDE modules and such. If you look at the build process of kernel-image-2.4.20-i386-udeb it should get you going. | I am sorry if this question does not belong in this list. this list is the right place. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: whoops... forgot the attachment again...
* Sytse Wielinga | Well here it is... Denis Barbier commited those, thanks for your contribution. in the future, it'd be great if you put in changelog entries as well, both so you got the proper credits, and to ensure that the changelogs are accurate. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Patch for small cd images and producing them officially?
* Santiago Garcia Mantinan | I've been working on a patch to make debian-cd be able to build small cd | images. I think this one does it. | | The following patch produces images just with: | | 1-debian-installer and the doc | 2-debian-installer, files necesary for a basic install and the doc Cool, this will _finally_ make it possible for us to have official netinst images. They've been missed. | First of all, what do we want to build, the smaller ones 45 Mb right now, | or the installable from cd ones, 83 Mb. Why not both? | Second but not least, there are several problems with the dependencies on | d-i: | | The first one is that the packages depend on libc6, which causes libc6 | to go into the cds wich means at least more than 3 megs of unneeded | oversize, the packages depend on libc6 2.3.1 and we are putting on the cds | version 2.2.5. This could be fixed by having packages not using the normal shlibs:Depends, but rather a shlibs:Depends-udeb which lists, say libc-udeb instead of libc6 (= 2.3.1-5) | Second, there are some d-i udeb packages that won't be installed due to | missing dependencies, these missing depends are libparted1.6-0 and | libdebian-installer3 which are on sid but are not udebs on d-i repository. | The packages that depend on them and that don't go on the cd are: | anna, autopartkit, choose-mirror, ethdetect, main-menu, net-retriever, | netcfg-dhcp and netcfg-static. | | I can fix this last problem adding those packages from sid, but I really | believe that that is not the way to go. I believe that this should be fixed | by making udebs of those packages with the right dependencies. As for the | dependency on libc6, that should also be fixed on d-i packages. yup, as above, imho. (Cc-ed to boot, to see their comments) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [cdebconf] helper macros, i18n, backup, etc
* (Denis Barbier) | Or uppercase these macros to prevent name clashes. But IMO they are | useless and could be removed. if an application defines macros and functions into another application's name space, it should not be confused when those are later used by the application. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [cdebconf] helper macros, i18n, backup, etc
* Randolph Chung | btw3, istr some talk about implementing a http based db backend. is that | available some place? sorry if i missed this on the list, i haven't been | following d-boot too closely. so far, it only exists in my mind, and if I hadn't been trying to track down that busybox console width problem last night, it could have been in cvs, but it's not, yet. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/languagechooser/debian by andrelop
* Debian Boot CVS Master | * Set debian/changelog's distribution section to | - unstable instead of UNRELEASED. Don't do this until you upload, having the distribution set to UNRELEASED means you won't get a changelog with UNRELEASED in it, it will rather be rejected. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#157735: cdrom-detect: strange error message when choosing 'Detect CDROM ...'
* Petter Reinholdtsen | This is the code in question (from postinst). What is it doing, and | why is it there? | | # workaround for now [workaround for what? pere 2002-10-28] | test -d /usr/share/discover rmdir /usr/share/discover | ln -s /usr/share/detect /usr/share/discover Just remove it. It was needed when we have discover's data files in /usr/share/detect due to a bug. It could just be removed now. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: soon to start work on sparc32
* Thomas Smith | I was wondering if there was anyone else working on Sparc installs, | and if I should corresond directly with that person if I have | questions, or just post to the list? BenC promised to start working on SPARC some time ago, but I haven't seen any commits from him yet, so I guess he hasn't gotten around to it yet. At least for general d-i questions, just mail the list, if there are SPARC-specific issues, either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be a good choice. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#173390: busybox-cvs: broken terminal width (TIOCGWINSZ)
Package: busybox-cvs Severity: grave Justification: breaks d-i At least on a serial console, the TIOCGWINSZ ioctl doesn't work. It returns insane values such as -1073746144. This works well with normal non-cvs busybox. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: working on the Alpha port
* (Denis Barbier) | These files are created by debconf-loadtemplate, see build/Makefile | to know how to call it. Actually, they are created by rfc822db. I am going to change that into «Warning: Can't open %, creating», since so many think it is an error, while it is not. (Or I might lower the priority the error is printed at.) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [important] CVS-generated email shouldn't go here
* Geert Stappers | At which list will the discussion go about the CVS commits? debian-boot would be a good choice; similar to what the web team does with -www-cvs and -www. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot: beep, and a bit more time
* Mario Lang | I noticed that the time you have to start typing something is | quite short, and, it would really be helpful if we could get a single | beep at that point. Sure. I guess it should stop there once we release, but that's annoying when you are trying to test and boot a lot. | Does anyone object to adding a C-g to the boot msg file? And, erm, | where is that syslinux.cfg? Or am I right in assuming it is not implemented | yet? it's in build/ somewhere. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation report
* Jeremie Koenig | After running the installation stuff a dozen times, i finally succeded in | installing a sarge. I had many many problems... Sid might install by accident, but no promises there. :) | - At the retreiver selection step, something needed | libdebconf.so.0.3, while the initrd contained only 1.0. I needed to | symlink it to the wanted file to get things work. Maybe some other | problems i had are related. I've just seen in some list that someone | else reported this. Noel Koethe's problem was something else, which was fixed by fixing my build scripts. The initrds are fine, but the version in the archive might be broken. (net-retriever is broken until tomorrow, for instance) | - I tried ftp one time. The installtion tried to fetch from http:///debian, | which didn't work ;) ftp is partially missing, yes. :) | - The first time, I have been quite sadic with d-i when it asked me to mount | paritions. I tried mounting non-root partitions first ;) I mounted /home, | and it didn't protest, I mounted /var/cache/apt (using the manual | choice), which gave me an awful error, but mounted the partition. did it manage to mount the root at all? maybe it should force mounting root before other partitions, or at least give out a warning that you have your foot in front of the shotgun, and ask whether you want to move foot before pulling the trigger. | I think this was because I copied my whole (old) apt cache into | /target/var/cache/apt/archives before running, to save download time (and | that worked...) I hadn't had this problem with sarge, but this time i | chose to download all the packages... This sounds like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=109176 | (btw, i needed to umount -a; reboot by hand since choice 11 did't want to do | that until i installed a bootloader, which i didn't want.) ack, and see Martin's reply. | - I tried to boot the kernel just installed with grub. It panic'd, could | not mount the root (correctly specified on command line). It seems it had | no ide driver... it uses an initrd, so you need to point grub to that. | - I booted the new system with an old custom kernel. It was devfs, no luck. | I couldn't get a getty. Needed to reboot single single user, changs | fstab and inittab. devfs is only used in the installer, not after boot, and unless you run devfsd things will break, sorry. Anybody got a good idea on how to solve this? | - The generated /etc/network/interfaces was wrong, using dhcp method instead | of static. Noted, I think this might have to do with you rebooting by hand, since the /etc/network/interfaces is supposed to be run by prebaseconfig scripts. | - I'm going to sleep (4:30 am). I didn't configure my system yet, and | probably won't before a few days. I have a home server/nat which i can use | until then (i use it to write this mail). If some of you want me to give | you clearer results or do some further tests, i can. I have just | subscribed to this list (i'd like to help). Don't hesitate asking me more | things if you need. Thanks for the report! You point out a lot of stuff which we'd not expected somebody to do, and some stuff which I guessed would break, and we'll start fixing those things ASAP. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation report
* Petter Reinholdtsen | [Jeremie Koenig] | Configure network HW: [O] (but no detection, ne 2000 isa non-pnp) | | The HW detection package (discover) currently do not detect any ISA | cards. Someone should probably spend some time fixing it. If you are still using ISA network cards in 2002 (and soon 2003) then you are on pretty old HW and you most likely know what hardware you have. Manual setup of ISA is fine, I'd say (unless somebody throws a lot of weight into fixing it). -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#172302: busybox-cvs: should not be priority standard, nor provide busybox
Package: busybox-cvs Severity: grave Busybox-cvs should not be priority standard, since it is then downloaded as part of the normal d-i install, and it breaks the rest of the system installation: wget: wget -c -q http://archive.progeny.com/debian//pool/main/b/busybox-cvs/busybob wget: wget -c -q http://archive.progeny.com/debian//pool/main/c/console-data/consob console-fonts_2002.12.04dbs-1_all.udeb: applet not found and there it hangs. Please also stop providing busybox, at least until busybox is a proper superset of busybox. waldi, you fix? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-installer/rootskel/src/etc by pere
* Debian Boot CVS Master | Ignore module load request for net-pf-1, nls_iso8859-1 and | nls_cp437. The config was moved from cdrom-detect. Why? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-installer/rootskel/src/etc by pere
* Petter Reinholdtsen | [Tollef Fog Heen] | Why? | | Why what? Because it is a smart thing to do. No, it is _not_ smart to not load net-pf-1, aka unix sockets. Some dhcp clients break. Syslog breaks. So, please revert this change. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for the alpha
* Anthony Towns | On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:22:20AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | The following stuff is still missing: | - reporting tool (code to write, non-trivial) | | A good aim is probably to make this as trivial as possible. A possibility | is to store the udebconf database in /target just before rebooting (it | shouldn't be too hard to ensure udebconf has quit by then), and have | base-config propose a template mail based on /proc/cpuinfo, free, the | templates file, and allow it to be edited and mailed by the user. lspci output would be good as well. | It makes more sense to refine it once you know how it's going to be | used, anyway. yup. From prebaseconfig.postinst: # Copy install logs to /target/var/log/ logsavedir=/target/var/log/debian-installer test -d $logsavedir || mkdir $logsavedir cp /var/log/* $logsavedir # Copy current debconf databse into /target cp -a /var/lib/cdebconf /target/root We should call db_stop first, however, so cdebconf has saved its db. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: preparation for the alpha
* Martin Sjögren | I'm not sure what the best place for doing that is... The | debian-installer script? main-menu? /sbin/debian-installer would be best, IMHO. So it will just be run when debconf is actually running. You fix? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libdebian-installer_0.08_i386.changes is NEW
* Martin Sjögren | On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:02:14PM -0500, Debian Installer wrote: | (new) libdebian-installer3-dev_0.08_i386.deb optional devel | | Was it really a good idea to upload 0.08 before 0.07 hit the archive? That doesn't matter. ftpmaster will only have to edit the override file once anyhow. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer and libraries
* Martin Sjögren | One way would be to skip reducing when building the demo tree, so | you'd have full libs when doing make demo, but before creating the | initrd, the libs *must* be reduced! You don't have those size problems with initrd gotten from, say the network, AIUI. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer and libraries
* Bruce Sass | There seems to be a snag when a developer wants to use a routine not | in the libc (whatever) udeb. It seems to me like you think that the libc-udeb contains a reduced libc. It doesn't. | Delaying the reduction until it is time | to actually produce a version the must fit on a floppy may make things | a little easier and speed up development. Of couse there is a risk | that any savings would get eaten up in rewrites if the lib can't be | reduced enough, which is where the external tracking mechanism comes | in so developers know when they are bloating the lib and can run it by | the rest of the team before they get too far along (but without having | to wait for a new reduced lib to be built and distributed. You don't have to distribute the reduced build. It is made as part of make initrd. I think you are trying to solve a non-issue here. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on a motorola CPN5360
* lars lindgren | Is there a kernel that supports that you can se the status of | loading the kerel by be serialport? you most likely want something like console=ttyS0,38400 appended to the boot loader line. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [cdebconf] slang frontend
* Martin Sjögren | The Skolelinux CD fail to install at the moment. anna do not install | any udebs from CD. Is the latest udebs working for you? | | I can get stuff from the CD yes, no problems there... mkfs is bugging a | bit: | | touch: /var/lib/di-utils-mkfs/_dev_discs_disc0_part2: No such file | or directory This should already be fixed. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer and libraries
* Bruce Sass | i.e., There is only a relatively small amount of code in di which | uses the reduced libs, so there would be no significant gains. yes. | If `yes'... sorry for distracting you from your work. no problem. :) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keyboard selection
* Alastair McKinstry | Any comments? sounds good to me. | One question: | | Is the installer kernel likely to have USB installed, and discover take | advantage of it? That you cannot know. Most likely not, I'd guess. (Unless you are booting from CD.) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer and libraries
* Sebastian Ley | I want to help debian-installer with a graphical ui and started | examining the possibilities of gtk-fb and gtk-directfb. cool. | In the todo list it says, there is need for a gtkfb udeb while it says | in build/README: | | | Apt is used to download the required udebs. This does *not* include | | libraries; libraries used by udebs must be installed on the build | | system, and so are build-depended on. | | I do not understand, how the libraries of the build system are copied | to the install system. Are they just copied out of /lib, /usr/lib? | If yes, that seems a little inconsistent to me, because the resulting | installer depends a lot on the build system. Perhaps this is intented? Most of those are built from -pic libraries, which are reduced versions of the normal libraries. It is impossible to know which functions are needed before the actual build of the boot media. So, yes, it is a bit inconsistent, but it's the only way. (AFAIK, at least) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer and libraries
* Bruce Sass | On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | Most of those are built from -pic libraries, which are reduced | versions of the normal libraries. It is impossible to know which | functions are needed before the actual build of the boot media. | | So, yes, it is a bit inconsistent, but it's the only way. (AFAIK, at | least) | | Would it be possible to reduce the libs at release build time? : tfheen@yiwaz ~ ls -l /lib/libc-2.3.1.so -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1109068 2002-11-19 19:13 /lib/libc-2.3.1.so* You'll have a problem sticking that and a kernel and any other tools onto a 1.44 MB floppy. And I don't see what you think it buys you; could you perhaps explain what you meant, or rather why you think it's a win to use non-reduced libs? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
preparation for the alpha
I'm hoping for an alpha this weekend. The following stuff is still missing: - reporting tool (code to write, non-trivial) - add mkswap (should be trivial, might need a busybox upload) The following things are done, but could use a little testing: - menu ordering (uploaded today) - check that the code I've checked into di-utils-* today hasn't broken too much, and in general: testing that d-i is behaving as you would expect. We should start getting rid of the rough edges now so it'll start to look and feel good. What do the respective port maintainers think of their state? Are you ready to have an alpha this weekend? Also, a great, big thanks to all of you: great work so far. It's a pleasure working with all of you. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple question about installer
* Florent BERANGER | but why don't use some parts of their code/algo in order to keep | time and keep Mdk's installer good features (hardware detection, X | configuration,...). X configuration is run later, so it's not reall part of the installer as such. We are using discover, which is based on detect, which was developed by Mandrake. Please take a look at the new installer (debian-installer) if you want to know about the new installer. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
menu item numbering
Currently, the menu ordering is a bit chaotic. I therefore propose we
do something like this; order it into stages. The names aren't the
best, but I think it's clear what I want.
0 - 10 Reserved
10 - 20 Preparation
- ethdetect
- netcfg-{dhcp,static}
- cdrom-detect
20 - 30 Installer setup
- anna
30 - 40 Disk detection etc
- hddetect
40 - 50 Disk preparation
- fdisk
- mkfs
- evms
50 - 60 Mount
60 - 70 Base install
Install base system
70 - 80 Post-base-install
- Install bootloader
- prebaseconfig
80 - 90 Reserved
90 - 100 Neverdefault
- Execute a shell
does this sound like a reasonable division of the number space?
Martin also suggested that no menu items should have the same number.
If so, we need to allocate numbers and track which have been given
out.
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Re: Installation for Dummies = Rule the World
* Xavian-Anderson Macpherson | The first question I need to ask; Is Debian intended to be only for | hobbyists? no. nor for professionals only. | If not; Why is the installation not easier? If distibutions can be built on | Debian, but are easier to install, why can't Debian use the same methods? Because we support more kernels and more arches than those other distributions. If you are interested in helping, please take a look at debian-installer and the current state instead of rambling about how bad boot-floppies are. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian installer web page
* Florent BERANGER | - On the d-i web page, we cannot see the install steps (network or Xfree | configuration for exemple) and status by step. It could be an interesting | information for testers ! Please provide text/images and I'll add them. | - In FAQ : | Graphical installer? | Yes, eventually. The whole architecture in debian-installer is based around a | C reimplementation of debconf. That means we can easily implement graphical | frontends. Nobody has actually done that yet and gotten it to work well. | | Is the installer now graphical (using gtk) ? no, not yet. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install with PCMCIA NIC card
* Florent BERANGER | I'm new on this ml and I want to test the Debian installer with my laptop. | Is it possible (are PCMCIA nic cards recognized automaticaly) ? debian-installer doesn't support PCMCIA yet. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [main-menu] default choice
* Martin Sjögren
| This puts menutests in a completely different situation, since they are
| now used mainly to resolve ties between different packages that provide
| the same virtual package (i.e. netcfg-dhcp exits with 0 and
| netcfg-static with 1, so -dhcp is default instead of -static)
this solution sound good to me.
| Can we still have ties after this? Do we want to still have ties after
| this and if so, how do we resolve them? Can we make sure that we don't
| have any ties here?
we can have, say if netcfg-{dhcp,static}'s menutest scripts both exit
0. We probably don't want that, though. Resolve by choosing one
arbitrary?
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Re: Multiple provides
* Martin Sjögren | One solution is to remove anna from the menu, and instead put several | annas there :) One per retriever, to be exact. XYZ-anna would depend | on XYZ-retriever and anna. The XYZ-anna postinst would be something like [...] | Comments anyone? joeyh? Tollef? as I've said on irc before: I think it's prettier to make anna able to configure packages (through libd-i?) than hacks like this, though it's not pretty, I agree. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Status of SPARC port
* Mario Lang | So, BenC or whoever, what is the status of the d-i port for SPARC? | Is there anything a newbie to the architecture | could do for you? BenC has done some work on it, but nothing has been commited yet, AFAIK. (BenC Cc-ed) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdebconf: preconfigured package
* Sylvain Ferriol | but is it possible to have a file in that way, which contains answers; | not in the debconf database but in the udeb or deb package. | | So, i can create udeb or deb packages with a preconfigured options. | | example: | i see in netcfg-static.templates file, the question about netmask: | netcfg/get_netmask | i have to install debian on all computers in my lan network = the | netmask is the same. | so i want to create a special preconfigured netcfg-static.udeb | (netcfg-static.pdeb for example) which contains a file (debian/answers) | with: | Template: netcfg/get_netmask | Type: string | Answer: 255.255.23.0 This is not possible today, it will be possible sometime in the future when you should be able to dump defaults to a floppy and use that for the next install. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
