Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Op 04-12-2006 om 16:19 schreef Rainer Dorsch: For the poor owners of laptops with usbfloppies and without bootable cdrom, the pxe-on-a-disk method will help a lot to get etch installed. Can that be documented in the installation manual for etch? It surely can. The only thing it takes is somebodies time. The good thing of having it in a manual, is that the information can be read in a sane order. The sad thing is that we missed the change to have the information allready in chronological reading sequence. Search engine will pop-up this thread and the finders will have a hard time how to get boot floppies of RC1 for VAIO laptop. Please reply below the text! Geert Stappers in another plea to bottom post -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/B/bottom-post.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
The solution to the devmapper issue was simple: modprobe dm-mod (that might have helped even with the sarge install discs). For the poor owners of laptops with usbfloppies and without bootable cdrom, the pxe-on-a-disk method will help a lot to get etch installed. Can that be documented in the installation manual for etch? Here are my notes: Download the PXE-on-a disk image: PXE-on-a-disk: ftp://ftp.scyld.com/private/jlehan/pxe-on-a-disk.html Get pxe-on-a-disk.tar.bz2 and extract it. Copy the pxe image on a floppy: dd if=pxe-on-a-disk.floppy of=/dev/fd0 ; sync Install an tftp server silverboxy:/opt# apt-get install tftpd-hpa (automatically adds to /etc/inet.d tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot ) Populate the tftpboot directory with the appropriate debian-installer files: wget http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc1/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz cd /var/lib/tftpboot tar xvfz dir to netboot/netboot.tar.gz Add lines in dhcpd.conf (of a running dhcp server) /etc/dhcpd.conf: add one line for host topsi host topsi { filename /pxelinux.0; # for pxe boot hardware ethernet 08:00:46:0c:b2:b2; fixed-address 192.168.1.99; server-name silverboxy; option host-name topsi; } Booting the laptop from the pxe floppy should boot the laptop with the debian installer. Thanks, Rainer Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2006 14:20 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: Hi Geert, booting into the etch installer works very well this way. Thus I have the laptop now up with a topsi:~# uname -a Linux topsi 2.6.17-2-486 #1 Wed Sep 13 15:56:30 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux topsi:~# kernel from the debian installer for etch. The laptop has etch installed, but grub/lilo are not setup correctly. When I run lilo (which worked before), I get: topsi:~# lilo /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such device Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such device Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.08 (2006-07-17)(compat) and kernel driver Added Linux * Fatal: open /vmlinuz.old: No such file or directory topsi:~# grub runs probably on a similar issue: topsi:~# grub-install /dev/hda /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. topsi:~# I am wondering, if the kernel on the etch d-i does not include the device-mapper (?). And if yes, if the d-i grub also runs without device mapper... Does that make any sense? Could I copy the boot directory of the laptop to the bootp server and boot the regular etch kernel from there? Thanks, Rainer Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2006 18:18 schrieb Geert Stappers: Op 02-12-2006 om 18:36 schreef Rainer Dorsch: Hmmgood point, but I would be surprised, if booting from an usb stick would work. It explicitly says in the BIOS floppy, there is no usb stick option. I would be surprised, if an usb stick and a floppy image look identical for the laptop (except the capacity). PXE does not work either. The vaio can boot from (USB) floppy drive, (expensive bootable Sony) ATAPI CDDRIVE, hdd. To get PXE working, boot from a floppy from the etherboot project, or the universal one at ftp://ftp.scyld.com/private/jlehan/pxe-on-a-disk.html HtH GSt -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Hi Geert, booting into the etch installer works very well this way. Thus I have the laptop now up with a topsi:~# uname -a Linux topsi 2.6.17-2-486 #1 Wed Sep 13 15:56:30 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux topsi:~# kernel from the debian installer for etch. The laptop has etch installed, but grub/lilo are not setup correctly. When I run lilo (which worked before), I get: topsi:~# lilo /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such device Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such device Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.08 (2006-07-17)(compat) and kernel driver Added Linux * Fatal: open /vmlinuz.old: No such file or directory topsi:~# grub runs probably on a similar issue: topsi:~# grub-install /dev/hda /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. topsi:~# I am wondering, if the kernel on the etch d-i does not include the device-mapper (?). And if yes, if the d-i grub also runs without device mapper... Does that make any sense? Could I copy the boot directory of the laptop to the bootp server and boot the regular etch kernel from there? Thanks, Rainer Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2006 18:18 schrieb Geert Stappers: Op 02-12-2006 om 18:36 schreef Rainer Dorsch: Hmmgood point, but I would be surprised, if booting from an usb stick would work. It explicitly says in the BIOS floppy, there is no usb stick option. I would be surprised, if an usb stick and a floppy image look identical for the laptop (except the capacity). PXE does not work either. The vaio can boot from (USB) floppy drive, (expensive bootable Sony) ATAPI CDDRIVE, hdd. To get PXE working, boot from a floppy from the etherboot project, or the universal one at ftp://ftp.scyld.com/private/jlehan/pxe-on-a-disk.html HtH GSt -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Op 02-12-2006 om 18:36 schreef Rainer Dorsch: Hmmgood point, but I would be surprised, if booting from an usb stick would work. It explicitly says in the BIOS floppy, there is no usb stick option. I would be surprised, if an usb stick and a floppy image look identical for the laptop (except the capacity). PXE does not work either. The vaio can boot from (USB) floppy drive, (expensive bootable Sony) ATAPI CDDRIVE, hdd. To get PXE working, boot from a floppy from the etherboot project, or the universal one at ftp://ftp.scyld.com/private/jlehan/pxe-on-a-disk.html HtH GSt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Doug, I run silverboxy:/home/rd# dd if=grub-0.97-i486-pc.ext2fs of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 conv=sync ; sync 2880+0 records in 2880+0 records out 1474560 bytes transferred in 96.615515 seconds (15262 bytes/sec) silverboxy:/home/rd# but the floppy did *not* boot. Is that one in etch broken, or did I do something stupid? I copied on the same floppy super grub-disk sgd_0.9528_english_floppy.img. Booting with this one worked well. Thanks, Rainer Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2006 02:16 schrieb Douglas Tutty: On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 12:40:48AM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Can it boot a grub-disk floppy? Can you burn a CD? Or, on that nice hdd, make a 256 MB (or 1 GB if its a large disk) partition. Put the hd-media and the netinst.iso there following the long-way instructions for the hd-media. Boot that partition and you're away. Once things are installed, turn that partition into extra swap. Doug, thanks for the reply. What is a grub-disk? I think all other steps sound promising (I could probably even use the partition used right now as swap). A grub-disk is from the package grub-disk. It is a floppy image of, you guessed it, a grub-disk. You can make one without this package on any computer that has grub installed by following the directions in the grub manual. The grub-disk image is just dd'd to a fresh floppy from any computer where you have dd and the image file, i.e. you don't have to have grub installed. The grub disk itself is just the grub boot loader with a default menu.lst that you can alter if you want. You don't have to choose from only the menu, you can enter the grub command line and go from there. Any boot loader, including grub, looks only at the blocks on a disk. It knows nothing about raid or lvm. /boot can't be on lvm. The usual way of dealing with this is to have one raid1 partition set for /boot and another for lvm. This way both (all) disks in the raid1 array have the same /boot layout. If you install grub the the MBR on both disks, you can boot from either. You can get really fancy and put a boot line for both /boot partitions in each menu.lst, however, my main board bios can pop up a boot list where you choose which device to boot so I don't need to get fancy. This is the advantage of grub over lilo; you can change __at_boot_time__ what you boot and with what parameters (can be password protected). Doug. -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
On Friday 01 December 2006 23:05, Rainer Dorsch wrote: I just tried to boot a vaio laptop (z505je) with the etch boot floppies. While it worked well with sarge floppies, I get with the RC1 boot floppy (the same with the latest daily build): Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44 M floppy0: no floppy controllers found Cannot load floppy module Giving up! The z505 comes with an USB floppy. The problem is that the 2.6.18 kernel is so big that we cannot fit the USB drivers on the boot floppy anymore. So unfortunately we've had to drop support for both USB floppy drives and USB keyboards. Cheers, FJP pgpEIDi42gCyt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 10:40 schrieben Sie: On Friday 01 December 2006 23:05, Rainer Dorsch wrote: I just tried to boot a vaio laptop (z505je) with the etch boot floppies. While it worked well with sarge floppies, I get with the RC1 boot floppy (the same with the latest daily build): Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44 M floppy0: no floppy controllers found Cannot load floppy module Giving up! The z505 comes with an USB floppy. The problem is that the 2.6.18 kernel is so big that we cannot fit the USB drivers on the boot floppy anymore. So unfortunately we've had to drop support for both USB floppy drives and USB keyboards. Ic...do I have any chance that I can get Debian etch on such a VAIO laptop (except of installing sarge and upgrade)? There would be a pcmcia-DVD drive, but the laptop can't boot from it. Is it easy enough to create my own boot/root floppies and throw away stuff which I don't need for example (e.g. CD-ROM support)? Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
(No need to CC me. I read the list!) On Saturday 02 December 2006 13:03, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Is it easy enough to create my own boot/root floppies and throw away stuff which I don't need for example (e.g. CD-ROM support)? Not really as your problem is the boot floppy and that already does not contain anything that can be dropped. You could try compiling a custom kernel, but that won't be an easy process either. Two options: - if your laptop supports PXE booting (over the network), you can try the netboot images; see installation guide for instructions - install Sarge and upgrade pgplgyFtOojIE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:03:15PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 10:40 schrieben Sie: On Friday 01 December 2006 23:05, Rainer Dorsch wrote: I just tried to boot a vaio laptop (z505je) with the etch boot floppies. While it worked well with sarge floppies, I get with the RC1 boot floppy (the same with the latest daily build): The problem is that the 2.6.18 kernel is so big that we cannot fit the USB drivers on the boot floppy anymore. So unfortunately we've had to drop support for both USB floppy drives and USB keyboards. Ic...do I have any chance that I can get Debian etch on such a VAIO laptop (except of installing sarge and upgrade)? There would be a pcmcia-DVD drive, but the laptop can't boot from it. If your box supports booting from a USB floppy, would it boot from a USB stick? If so forget about floppies and make a USB (hd-media) install and put the netinst.iso on the stick. It works great. Instructions are in the installation manual. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 15:47 schrieb Douglas Tutty: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:03:15PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 10:40 schrieben Sie: On Friday 01 December 2006 23:05, Rainer Dorsch wrote: I just tried to boot a vaio laptop (z505je) with the etch boot floppies. While it worked well with sarge floppies, I get with the RC1 boot floppy (the same with the latest daily build): The problem is that the 2.6.18 kernel is so big that we cannot fit the USB drivers on the boot floppy anymore. So unfortunately we've had to drop support for both USB floppy drives and USB keyboards. Ic...do I have any chance that I can get Debian etch on such a VAIO laptop (except of installing sarge and upgrade)? There would be a pcmcia-DVD drive, but the laptop can't boot from it. If your box supports booting from a USB floppy, would it boot from a USB stick? If so forget about floppies and make a USB (hd-media) install and put the netinst.iso on the stick. It works great. Instructions are in the installation manual. Hmmgood point, but I would be surprised, if booting from an usb stick would work. It explicitly says in the BIOS floppy, there is no usb stick option. I would be surprised, if an usb stick and a floppy image look identical for the laptop (except the capacity). PXE does not work either. The vaio can boot from (USB) floppy drive, (expensive bootable Sony) ATAPI CDDRIVE, hdd. The real problem I have with that laptop is that is has an etch system, but does not boot right now. The initrd.img seems to be broken (after my last initramfs-tools update?). When I boot with the sarge discs mount the root filesystem do a chroot and mount the proc filesystem, I am in the system, can basically run apt-get install and update software within a complete etch environment (except the kernel itself, this is a sarge kernel image). I have trouble running lilo etc. (I assume sarge did not support devmapper): topsi:~# lilo /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such device Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such device Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.08 (2006-07-17)(compat) and kernel driver Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' - '/dev/hda' Added Linux * Fatal: open /vmlinuz.old: No such file or directory topsi:~# Just wondering, if there is a way to work around this. Somehow people doing an update from sarge to etch must see the same issue. How does it work there? Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
On Saturday 02 December 2006 18:36, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Just wondering, if there is a way to work around this. Somehow people doing an update from sarge to etch must see the same issue. How does it work there? Can you free up enough space on your harddisk using the Sarge installer for say a 1GB partition? If you can, you could install an Etch RC1 hdmedia kernel/initrd there, plus a businesscard image and configure grub to boot from that. pgpVaooQNuvfJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 18:36:13 +0100 Rainer Dorsch wrote: Hmmgood point, but I would be surprised, if booting from an usb stick would work. It explicitly says in the BIOS floppy, there is no usb stick option. I would be surprised, if an usb stick and a floppy image look identical for the laptop (except the capacity). It has been reported, that setting bios to boot from an external drive or usb zip drive leeds to booting from usb stick. -- Kind regards Holger == Created with Sylpheed 2.2.2 under Debian GNU/LINUX 3.1 »Sarge« http://counter.li.org/, Registered LinuxUser #311290 Spamfiltering by bogofilter.sourceforge.net = -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 06:36:13PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 15:47 schrieb Douglas Tutty: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:03:15PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 10:40 schrieben Sie: On Friday 01 December 2006 23:05, Rainer Dorsch wrote: If your box supports booting from a USB floppy, would it boot from a USB stick? If so forget about floppies and make a USB (hd-media) install and put the netinst.iso on the stick. It works great. Instructions are in the installation manual. Hmmgood point, but I would be surprised, if booting from an usb stick would work. It explicitly says in the BIOS floppy, there is no usb stick option. I would be surprised, if an usb stick and a floppy image look identical for the laptop (except the capacity). PXE does not work either. The vaio can boot from (USB) floppy drive, (expensive bootable Sony) ATAPI CDDRIVE, hdd. Can it boot a grub-disk floppy? Can you burn a CD? Or, on that nice hdd, make a 256 MB (or 1 GB if its a large disk) partition. Put the hd-media and the netinst.iso there following the long-way instructions for the hd-media. Boot that partition and you're away. Once things are installed, turn that partition into extra swap. Good luck. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 22:24 schrieb Douglas Tutty: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 06:36:13PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 15:47 schrieb Douglas Tutty: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:03:15PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 10:40 schrieben Sie: On Friday 01 December 2006 23:05, Rainer Dorsch wrote: If your box supports booting from a USB floppy, would it boot from a USB stick? If so forget about floppies and make a USB (hd-media) install and put the netinst.iso on the stick. It works great. Instructions are in the installation manual. Hmmgood point, but I would be surprised, if booting from an usb stick would work. It explicitly says in the BIOS floppy, there is no usb stick option. I would be surprised, if an usb stick and a floppy image look identical for the laptop (except the capacity). PXE does not work either. The vaio can boot from (USB) floppy drive, (expensive bootable Sony) ATAPI CDDRIVE, hdd. Can it boot a grub-disk floppy? Can you burn a CD? Or, on that nice hdd, make a 256 MB (or 1 GB if its a large disk) partition. Put the hd-media and the netinst.iso there following the long-way instructions for the hd-media. Boot that partition and you're away. Once things are installed, turn that partition into extra swap. Doug, thanks for the reply. What is a grub-disk? I think all other steps sound promising (I could probably even use the partition used right now as swap). Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 20:40 schrieb Holger Wansing: On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 18:36:13 +0100 Rainer Dorsch wrote: Hmmgood point, but I would be surprised, if booting from an usb stick would work. It explicitly says in the BIOS floppy, there is no usb stick option. I would be surprised, if an usb stick and a floppy image look identical for the laptop (except the capacity). It has been reported, that setting bios to boot from an external drive or usb zip drive leeds to booting from usb stick. Would be an easy solution. I will try that. Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Am Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 19:09 schrieb Frans Pop: On Saturday 02 December 2006 18:36, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Just wondering, if there is a way to work around this. Somehow people doing an update from sarge to etch must see the same issue. How does it work there? Can you free up enough space on your harddisk using the Sarge installer for say a 1GB partition? If you can, you could install an Etch RC1 hdmedia kernel/initrd there, plus a businesscard image and configure grub to boot from that. I think there would be enough space for a 1 GB partition. I think swap would be even approx. 750MB which I could reuse (don't need swap when running in text mode). I am wondering, how I would configure grub from the sarge kernel? If I run grub-install, I get these devmapper issues as well. Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 12:40:48AM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Can it boot a grub-disk floppy? Can you burn a CD? Or, on that nice hdd, make a 256 MB (or 1 GB if its a large disk) partition. Put the hd-media and the netinst.iso there following the long-way instructions for the hd-media. Boot that partition and you're away. Once things are installed, turn that partition into extra swap. Doug, thanks for the reply. What is a grub-disk? I think all other steps sound promising (I could probably even use the partition used right now as swap). A grub-disk is from the package grub-disk. It is a floppy image of, you guessed it, a grub-disk. You can make one without this package on any computer that has grub installed by following the directions in the grub manual. The grub-disk image is just dd'd to a fresh floppy from any computer where you have dd and the image file, i.e. you don't have to have grub installed. The grub disk itself is just the grub boot loader with a default menu.lst that you can alter if you want. You don't have to choose from only the menu, you can enter the grub command line and go from there. Any boot loader, including grub, looks only at the blocks on a disk. It knows nothing about raid or lvm. /boot can't be on lvm. The usual way of dealing with this is to have one raid1 partition set for /boot and another for lvm. This way both (all) disks in the raid1 array have the same /boot layout. If you install grub the the MBR on both disks, you can boot from either. You can get really fancy and put a boot line for both /boot partitions in each menu.lst, however, my main board bios can pop up a boot list where you choose which device to boot so I don't need to get fancy. This is the advantage of grub over lilo; you can change __at_boot_time__ what you boot and with what parameters (can be password protected). Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot floppies of RC1 broken for VAIO laptop
Hello, I just tried to boot a vaio laptop (z505je) with the etch boot floppies. While it worked well with sarge floppies, I get with the RC1 boot floppy (the same with the latest daily build): Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44 M floppy0: no floppy controllers found Cannot load floppy module Giving up! The z505 comes with an USB floppy. When booting the sarge boot floppies, I get With the sarge boot disks it looks pretty similar floppy0: no floppy controllers found insmod: init_module: floppy: No such device modprobe: failed to load module floppy But then sarge starts probing usb and the boot/root process works, whereas etch gives up(!) I am wondering, if I just missed a boot parm in the etch install process... Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]