Bug#229325: Experimental countrychooser branch (was Re: Bug#229325: One msg still not fixed in beta4)

2004-05-03 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I made a branch to test some changes in countrychooser:
   svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/people/barbier/countrychooser
 or
   svn://svn.debian.org/d-i/people/barbier/countrychooser
 
 The main goal is to get rid of iso-codes for English country names,
 and replace them by those found in ICU, which are much more neutral.

I have already explained why I do not support this choice. ICU claim
they use ISO-3166 AND ONLY IT as a reference.though they do
not for TW *without explaining why*. So, I do not see it as more or
less neutral than ISO-3166, but just less strict.

The TW issue is becoming slowly a non issue as ways of translating the
one and only name which is controversial in iso-3166 list arises.

The letter to ISO-3166 secretary will be soon sent as soon as I get
approval from DPL. Depending on the answer we get, we may decide
whether we deliberately choose to deviate from the standard for this
very particular topic. 

But, if we do deviate, WE WILL EXPLAIN WHY.and do not do it
silently just like ICU does.

And because this will be a deviation from an accepted standard this
will be validated by our Technical Comittee.

 Translations have not been fuzzied (but I could not refrain myself
 from editing fr.po).
 Only countries/regions part of a locale in /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
 or which can be selected in choose-mirror are listed, which makes
 debian/templates half-size.
 The requested change in menu item has also been performed so that
 anyone can test if this is too verbose.

These changes would be interested to have in the main branch also :
restricting the list to the list of countries which are really useful is
a really good idea.

This is why I regret you did couple this change with a switch to the
ICU list.

 will test it tomorrow. When writing comments inrelated to this
 bugreport, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


As the package has the list as maintainer, the list will get the
comments anyway.






Bug#229325: Experimental countrychooser branch (was Re: Bug#229325: One msg still not fixed in beta4)

2004-05-02 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 08:57:34AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
 Quoting Wang WenRui ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  Hi,
  
There are two phrases choose country in the countrychooser need to
be fixed(changed to Choose a country, territory or area). While only
one of them is fixed in beta4. The left one is the main menu entry:
  
  #. Type: string
  #. Description
  #. Main menu entry
  #: ../templates-in:39
  msgid Choose country
  msgstr Choisir le pays
  
Please fixed that. Thanks.
 
 No, we won't. Menu entries need to be short. The possible size for
 menu entries is 54 characters, in ALL LANGUAGES. While using Choose a
 country, territory or area would fit in English, this would add an
 unnecessary verbosity to the main menu, which needs to be concise and
 clear.

I made a branch to test some changes in countrychooser:
  svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/people/barbier/countrychooser
or
  svn://svn.debian.org/d-i/people/barbier/countrychooser

The main goal is to get rid of iso-codes for English country names,
and replace them by those found in ICU, which are much more neutral.
Translations have not been fuzzied (but I could not refrain myself
from editing fr.po).
Only countries/regions part of a locale in /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
or which can be selected in choose-mirror are listed, which makes
debian/templates half-size.
The requested change in menu item has also been performed so that
anyone can test if this is too verbose.

I only checked that debian/templates is generated without trouble,
latest stuff about short country list may break this package, I
will test it tomorrow. When writing comments inrelated to this
bugreport, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Denis


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