Bug#259373: installation-reports

2004-07-14 Thread Martin Domeij
Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: Dowloaded it 2004-07-13. See Method.
uname -a: Linux sid 2.4.25-1-386 #2 Wed Apr 14 19:38:08 EST 2004 i686
GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-07-13 and 2004-07-14
Method: Booted off sarge iso-image downloaded from debian.org/devel/debian-installer, 
installed base from it, the rest from http://ftp.se.debian.org.
Machine: VMWare
Processor: 1.67 GHz
Memory: 192 MB
Root Device: SCSI (VMWare)
Root Size/partition table: Automatic partitioning of 4GB drive
Output of lspci:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX -
82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 01)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP
bridge (rev 01)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 08)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 08)
:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMWare Inc [VMWare SVGA II] PCI
Display Adapter
:00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30)
[MultiMaster 10] (rev 01)
:00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970
[PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10)
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked:[0]
Configure network HW:   [0]
Config network: [E]
Detect CD:  [0]
Load installer modules: [0]
Detect hard drives: [0]
Partition hard drives:  [E]
Create file systems:[0]
Mount partitions:   [0]
Install base system:[0]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [X]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
2004-07-13:
 First attempt, fast runthrough. Chose 'Go Back' on the choose location screen
 which led to it not being shown again. Overall impression: What just happened?
2004-07-14:
 Second attempt.
 Press enter to boot
 Language is en_US
 Keyboard layout Swedish
 It's detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives
 It's detecting network devices
 It won't let me set an IP-address because there is a DHCP-server on my subnet.
 Hm.
 Detecting disks and other hardware
 Starting up the partitioner
 Manually edit
 I choose the drive
 The text is a bit confusing. First a major warning, then a you will be able
 to undo this operation. Right.
 Create new empty partition table on this device? - and NO is the default
 option. Didn't I actually go here to partition the drive?
 Go back, go back - RED SCREEN - an installation step failed. Err, no actually,
 it didn't *fail*, I just didn't *do* it, but went back in stead...
 I'm thrown into the main menu.
 Ah, here is the Configure network - let me just put an IP-address in there.
 Great, now I get to choose not to use DHCP.
 Back in the Partitioner , but now seemingly I can't choose automatic
 partition...
 Weird text here, Configure the Logical Volume Manager - I guess this means
 that I can create something that has to do with LVM if I already have created
 partitions. Choosing it asks if I want to save changes made to partitioning
 scheme (I guess that means partition table). I haven't made any changes to
 it. Choosing no gets me back to partitioning menu. Choosing yes lets me
 create Volume Groups and Logical Volumes. I say crate VG - red screen. No
 usable physical volumes found. Fine, there is only one disk with no
 partitions yet. Go Back. Back into Partitioner. Still no automatic thingy.
 OK, so I stumble in to Guided finally and choose Erase entire disk. Fine.
 All files in one partition - great, except that I will want a swap partition
 as well. Hopefully it will do this. Finish partition, write to disk.
 Partition #1 and #5? So, just one primary and then a logical? Err.. right.
 Installing base system.
 Install the GRUB boot loader. No thanks, I want Lilo. I choose No. Wrong
 answer. It asks again where to put it, (hd0) is the default option. hd0? Is
 that what GRUB calls sda? OK, Go Back then.
 Back on the main menu. Hm. Up there is a Choose country I'm pretty sure
 I haven't done... Anyway, install LILO. On master boot record. Lucky I know
 what those things are. OK, all done then. Rebooting.
 Configuring base system.. The following are common time zones in the United
 States So, since I never got to choose country it assumes that I live in
 the US? Oh god.
 Set root password, create user account. Hm, full name before user name.. A bit
 un-orthodox, but ok...
 For some reason I have to choose every step from the menu. I think I said
 go back somewhere and this is what I get for it.
 Set the hostname? Again? That was one of the first things I did...
 Add apt sources. It scans CDs for some reason. Now I get to choose http-
 sources.
 No more apt sources thank you.
 Security updates? Sure, although I've just said I didn't want any more sources.
 Select packages to install. tasksel, aptitude, dselect or nothing. Oh god.
 Hm, I'll try tasksel. Whoa, funky interface on that one.. Ok, Desktop
 environment I suppose. Localization... No Swedish? Hm. So, just Desktop
 

Re: Bug#259373: installation-reports

2004-07-14 Thread Frans Pop
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On Wednesday 14 July 2004 11:35, Martin Domeij wrote:
 Package: installation-reports

Sounds like you would like a bit more control over the installation.
Please try booting the installer with 'linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium'. You'll 
be surprised.
Booting with 'expert' would give you full control.

Thank you for your usability comments.
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Bug#259373: installation-reports

2004-07-14 Thread Frans Pop
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On Wednesday 14 July 2004 11:35, Martin Domeij wrote:
 Package: installation-reports

 Debian-installer-version: Dowloaded it 2004-07-13. See Method.
 uname -a: Linux sid 2.4.25-1-386 #2 Wed Apr 14 19:38:08 EST 2004 i686
 GNU/Linux
 Date: 2004-07-13 and 2004-07-14
 Method: Booted off sarge iso-image downloaded from
 debian.org/devel/debian-installer, installed base from it, the rest from
 http://ftp.se.debian.org.

Could you please give the full URL where you got the image?
It is not clear whether you used the Beta 4 version or the daily build.
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Bug#259373: installation-reports

2004-07-14 Thread Martin Domeij
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta4/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Frans Pop wrote:
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On Wednesday 14 July 2004 11:35, Martin Domeij wrote:
Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: Dowloaded it 2004-07-13. See Method.
uname -a: Linux sid 2.4.25-1-386 #2 Wed Apr 14 19:38:08 EST 2004 i686
GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-07-13 and 2004-07-14
Method: Booted off sarge iso-image downloaded from
debian.org/devel/debian-installer, installed base from it, the rest from
http://ftp.se.debian.org.
Could you please give the full URL where you got the image?
It is not clear whether you used the Beta 4 version or the daily build.
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Re: Bug#259373: installation-reports

2004-07-14 Thread Martin Domeij
That leads to another comment... I don't find it intuitive that I need
to read a help text before booting. Most programs, installers or not,
you start and are then asked a bunch of questions.
/Martin
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Frans Pop wrote:
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On Wednesday 14 July 2004 11:35, Martin Domeij wrote:
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Sounds like you would like a bit more control over the installation.
Please try booting the installer with 'linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium'. You'll
be surprised.
Booting with 'expert' would give you full control.
Thank you for your usability comments.
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