Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
reassign 632970 xserver-xephyer thanks Cyril Brulebois, le Fri 22 Jul 2011 20:15:42 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (22/07/2011): KiBi wrote: Xephyr is not X, and uses us by default. Why should it be cast into stone? I didn't say a thing about that. Ok. us seems to me a bad default for most (that is, no-us) people, compared to simply inheriting the underlying X server layout or reading /etc/default/keyboarD. That's still not a bug in keyboard-configuration, Sure. I just apparently failed to Bcc control my reassignment. Also, putting me in Cc could be nice… It would have been done by the bts if I hadn't failed my Bcc. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110723070421.GB9084@const
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
Julien Cristau, le Fri 22 Jul 2011 20:21:00 +0200, a écrit : or reading /etc/default/keyboard. No. Why not? Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110723071239.GA16508@const
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
Samuel Thibault, le Sat 23 Jul 2011 09:12:39 +0200, a écrit : Julien Cristau, le Fri 22 Jul 2011 20:21:00 +0200, a écrit : or reading /etc/default/keyboard. No. Why not? (From a user point of view, it's similar to running startx, the default system keyboard layout should be used). Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110723071651.GA17576@const
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Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: reassign 632970 xserver-xephyer Bug #632970 [keyboard-configuration] cannot set keyboard layout for vserver Bug reassigned from package 'keyboard-configuration' to 'xserver-xephyer'. Warning: Unknown package 'xserver-xephyer' Warning: Unknown package 'xserver-xephyer' Bug No longer marked as found in versions console-setup/1.68+squeeze2. Warning: Unknown package 'xserver-xephyer' Warning: Unknown package 'xserver-xephyer' Warning: Unknown package 'xserver-xephyer' thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 632970: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=632970 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/handler.s.c.131140467220612.transcr...@bugs.debian.org
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
On 07/22/11 01:13, Samuel Thibault wrote: Err, it looks plain wrong to me to configure the keyboard on the server side. This bug report is not about configuring the keyboard-configuration package on a remote machine, but on the client, i.e. the host with the keyboard attached. If I want to connect to the same server from another machine which has another keyboard layout, the layout is bogus. So it should be configured on the client side, since that's where the keyboard is. And you can do it, e.g. Xephyr -keybd ephyr,,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkblayout=de :3 -screen 1280x1024 -query vserver1 -terminate I completely agree, but actually I just want to tell the local(!) keyboard-configuration package which keyboard is connected. X, Xnest, Xephyr and all other local XWindow servers could use this information, which would disburden the user from remembering complex command line options like -keybd ephyr,,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkblayout=de Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e297afe.7060...@aixigo.de
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
Harald Dunkel, le Fri 22 Jul 2011 15:28:30 +0200, a écrit : On 07/22/11 01:13, Samuel Thibault wrote: Err, it looks plain wrong to me to configure the keyboard on the server side. This bug report is not about configuring the keyboard-configuration package on a remote machine, but on the client, i.e. the host with the keyboard attached. Ah, ok. Since you said for a vserver, I thought you were talking about the server. If I want to connect to the same server from another machine which has another keyboard layout, the layout is bogus. So it should be configured on the client side, since that's where the keyboard is. And you can do it, e.g. Xephyr -keybd ephyr,,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkblayout=de :3 -screen 1280x1024 -query vserver1 -terminate I completely agree, but actually I just want to tell the local(!) keyboard-configuration package which keyboard is connected. X, Xnest, Xephyr and all other local XWindow servers could use this information, which would disburden the user from remembering complex command line options like -keybd ephyr,,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkblayout=de So it'd be a matter of xserver-xephyr defaulting to the underlying X server layout, or reading /etc/default/keyboard. KiBi wrote: Xephyr is not X, and uses us by default. Why should it be cast into stone? us seems to me a bad default for most (that is, no-us) people, compared to simply inheriting the underlying X server layout or reading /etc/default/keyboarD. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110722135711.ga4...@const.famille.thibault.fr
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org (22/07/2011): KiBi wrote: Xephyr is not X, and uses us by default. Why should it be cast into stone? I didn't say a thing about that. us seems to me a bad default for most (that is, no-us) people, compared to simply inheriting the underlying X server layout or reading /etc/default/keyboarD. That's still not a bug in keyboard-configuration, which is already what I said, but you stripped that part in your “reply”. Anyway, see that in xorg-server: $ git grep keymap -- hw/kdrive/ephyr If you wish, try and get the layout in addition to the keymap (xkb to the rescue I suppose?). Also, putting me in Cc could be nice… Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 15:57:11 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: So it'd be a matter of xserver-xephyr defaulting to the underlying X server layout, Maybe. Except there's no reliable way to do that. or reading /etc/default/keyboard. No. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110722182100.gg32...@radis.liafa.jussieu.fr
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
reassign 632970 xserver-xephyr thanks Harald Dunkel, le Fri 08 Jul 2011 08:57:26 +0200, a écrit : The Linux Vserver server in the computer room is running Squeeze with kernel 2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64. It provides 5 identical versers. The vservers are running squeeze. Using xdmcp and kdm they are supposed to provide virtual desktops to one or more users each. The clients (e.g. my desktop PC) is running Squeeze, too. To access a vserver I use a command line like Xephyr :3 -screen 1280x1024 -query vserver1 -terminate Err, it looks plain wrong to me to configure the keyboard on the server side. If I want to connect to the same server from another machine which has another keyboard layout, the layout is bogus. So it should be configured on the client side, since that's where the keyboard is. And you can do it, e.g. Xephyr -keybd ephyr,,,xkbmodel=evdev,xkblayout=de :3 -screen 1280x1024 -query vserver1 -terminate Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110721231336.gb4...@const.famille.thibault.fr
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
The Linux Vserver server in the computer room is running Squeeze with kernel 2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64. It provides 5 identical versers. The vservers are running squeeze. Using xdmcp and kdm they are supposed to provide virtual desktops to one or more users each. The clients (e.g. my desktop PC) is running Squeeze, too. To access a vserver I use a command line like Xephyr :3 -screen 1280x1024 -query vserver1 -terminate As written before, all hosts involved have been configured to provide a German keyboard layout: # egrep -v ^#\|^\$ /etc/default/keyboard XKBMODEL=pc105 XKBLAYOUT=de XKBVARIANT= XKBOPTIONS=terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e16aa56.3050...@aixigo.de
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Bug #632970 {Done: Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org} [keyboard-configuration]
cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
On 07/08/11 10:05, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Unknown command or malformed arguments to command.
Unknown command or malformed arguments to command.
Xephyr is not X, and uses us by default. AFAICT you need to run
Unknown command or malformed arguments to command.
setxkbmap yourself, so there's no bug in keyboard-configuration.
Unknown command or malformed arguments to command.
Closing this bug report accordingly.
Unknown command or malformed arguments to command.
Too many unknown commands, stopping here.
Please contact me if you need assistance.
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Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
On 07/08/11 10:05, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Xephyr is not X, and uses us by default. AFAICT you need to run setxkbmap yourself, so there's no bug in keyboard-configuration. Closing this bug report accordingly. Sorry to say, but this is not reasonable. setxkbmap wouldn't work if Xephyr wouldn't be a XWindow server. Not to mention that I get the same problem using xorg's Xnest. About running setxkbmap: This is not an option, since it requires to login first, but user authentication requires a (correctly configured) keyboard. The remote kdm doesn't know the user's keyboard, either. I understand that you didn't take this into account on designing keyboard-configuration, but I cannot help it. Personally I am using a qwerty keyboard to avoid this kind of problem. But fact is, there are pretty many national keyboards out there. My suggestion would be to open this bug report again and to try a more constructive approach. Many thanx Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e17006c.1010...@aixigo.de
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 03:04:44PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: I understand that you didn't take this into account on designing keyboard-configuration, but I cannot help it. From the description of the package: This package maintains the keyboard preferences in /etc/default/keyboard. Other packages can use the information provided by this package in order to configure the keyboard on the console or in X Window. Hence, it is not a job of keyboard-configuration to configure the keyboard. The other packages can (but don't have to) use the information provided by keyboard-configuration in order to configure the keyboard. Anton Zinoviev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110708194318.ga10...@debian.lan
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
Package: keyboard-configuration Version: 1.68+squeeze2 If I try to define a German keyboard layout for a vserver, then this setting is ignored. I still get qwerty for the XWindow session running on the vserver, even though all real or virtual hosts involved have been configured for a German layout. All are running Squeeze (6.0.2). Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e15bbff.1000...@aixigo.de
Bug#632970: cannot set keyboard layout for vserver
Harald Dunkel, le Thu 07 Jul 2011 16:00:31 +0200, a écrit : If I try to define a German keyboard layout for a vserver, then this setting is ignored. I still get qwerty for the XWindow session running on the vserver, even though all real or virtual hosts involved have been configured for a German layout. All are running Squeeze (6.0.2). Please describe more precisely how you actually run your XWindow server and session. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110707180329.gf4...@const.famille.thibault.fr
