Bug#851539: Stretch RC1 netinst installer prompts for additional CDs
On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 02:53:29PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:24:31AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > >On 01/16/2017 07:56 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > >> > >> How does it help for the firmware-included images? > >> > >It makes it possible to use them to install from CD rather than from the > >network. > > Exactly. > > When we first came up with the idea of the firmware-included images, > an explicit use case was meant to be "boot off firmware netinst, add > other discs as apt sources" to make things work well. I'd not > understood why that wasn't working for quite a while, and then took a > long time to get around to fixing this. That seems entirely reasonable. However, does the prompt make sense for the non-firmware-included images? Or could it go away for those, to reduce the number of questions asked? - Josh Triplett
Bug#851539: Stretch RC1 netinst installer prompts for additional CDs
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:24:31AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: >On 01/16/2017 07:56 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: >> >> How does it help for the firmware-included images? >> >It makes it possible to use them to install from CD rather than from the >network. Exactly. When we first came up with the idea of the firmware-included images, an explicit use case was meant to be "boot off firmware netinst, add other discs as apt sources" to make things work well. I'd not understood why that wasn't working for quite a while, and then took a long time to get around to fixing this. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com You raise the blade, you make the change... You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane...
Bug#851539: Stretch RC1 netinst installer prompts for additional CDs
On 01/16/2017 07:56 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:30:03PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:51:43PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 01:13:13AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 04:53:26PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > Package: installation-reports > Severity: normal > > I tried doing an install with a Stretch RC1 netinst CD. Worked fine, > except that later in the install, right before asking about an apt > mirror, the installer asked about scaning additional CDs. Previous > versions of the netinst installer haven't asked that question; normally > only the full-CD installers ask that. This is a deliberate change, yes. It makes the firmware netinsts more useful now, for example... >>> >>> I thought that firmware had a separate prompting mechanism, triggered by >>> the detection of missing firmware? If the installer notices missing >>> firmware, it prompts for separate firmware media. >> >> There's also some netinsts with firmware included [1], and those are >> the ones this will help with. The previous settings in apt-setup were >> not very consistent and *very* old, so I've tweaked which images will >> ask about extra media. > > How does it help for the firmware-included images? > It makes it possible to use them to install from CD rather than from the network. Cheers, Julien
Bug#851539: Stretch RC1 netinst installer prompts for additional CDs
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:30:03PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:51:43PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > >On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 01:13:13AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 04:53:26PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > >> >Package: installation-reports > >> >Severity: normal > >> > > >> >I tried doing an install with a Stretch RC1 netinst CD. Worked fine, > >> >except that later in the install, right before asking about an apt > >> >mirror, the installer asked about scaning additional CDs. Previous > >> >versions of the netinst installer haven't asked that question; normally > >> >only the full-CD installers ask that. > >> > >> This is a deliberate change, yes. It makes the firmware netinsts more > >> useful now, for example... > > > >I thought that firmware had a separate prompting mechanism, triggered by > >the detection of missing firmware? If the installer notices missing > >firmware, it prompts for separate firmware media. > > There's also some netinsts with firmware included [1], and those are > the ones this will help with. The previous settings in apt-setup were > not very consistent and *very* old, so I've tweaked which images will > ask about extra media. How does it help for the firmware-included images? And, any way to make it only ask that question in the firmware-included images?
Bug#851539: Stretch RC1 netinst installer prompts for additional CDs
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:51:43PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: >On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 01:13:13AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 04:53:26PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: >> >Package: installation-reports >> >Severity: normal >> > >> >I tried doing an install with a Stretch RC1 netinst CD. Worked fine, >> >except that later in the install, right before asking about an apt >> >mirror, the installer asked about scaning additional CDs. Previous >> >versions of the netinst installer haven't asked that question; normally >> >only the full-CD installers ask that. >> >> This is a deliberate change, yes. It makes the firmware netinsts more >> useful now, for example... > >I thought that firmware had a separate prompting mechanism, triggered by >the detection of missing firmware? If the installer notices missing >firmware, it prompts for separate firmware media. There's also some netinsts with firmware included [1], and those are the ones this will help with. The previous settings in apt-setup were not very consistent and *very* old, so I've tweaked which images will ask about extra media. [1] http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." -- Edward Snowden
Bug#851539: Stretch RC1 netinst installer prompts for additional CDs
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 01:13:13AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 04:53:26PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > >Package: installation-reports > >Severity: normal > > > >I tried doing an install with a Stretch RC1 netinst CD. Worked fine, > >except that later in the install, right before asking about an apt > >mirror, the installer asked about scaning additional CDs. Previous > >versions of the netinst installer haven't asked that question; normally > >only the full-CD installers ask that. > > This is a deliberate change, yes. It makes the firmware netinsts more > useful now, for example... I thought that firmware had a separate prompting mechanism, triggered by the detection of missing firmware? If the installer notices missing firmware, it prompts for separate firmware media. - Josh Triplett
Bug#851539: Stretch RC1 netinst installer prompts for additional CDs
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 04:53:26PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: >Package: installation-reports >Severity: normal > >I tried doing an install with a Stretch RC1 netinst CD. Worked fine, >except that later in the install, right before asking about an apt >mirror, the installer asked about scaning additional CDs. Previous >versions of the netinst installer haven't asked that question; normally >only the full-CD installers ask that. This is a deliberate change, yes. It makes the firmware netinsts more useful now, for example... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "I used to be the first kid on the block wanting a cranial implant, now I want to be the first with a cranial firewall. " -- Charlie Stross
Bug#851539: Stretch RC1 netinst installer prompts for additional CDs
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal I tried doing an install with a Stretch RC1 netinst CD. Worked fine, except that later in the install, right before asking about an apt mirror, the installer asked about scaning additional CDs. Previous versions of the netinst installer haven't asked that question; normally only the full-CD installers ask that. - Josh Triplett
