Bug#866085: At least it should be the option to not download
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 09:13:05PM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > > > > If you are doing an install party, set up a proxy server. That really > > really helps a lot. > > > > Not only experts should be able to do an install party; some more people > wants to share small knowledge and experiences. > Could this be solved with a proxy server installation task? With the move to https-only apt I worry that configuring one will become too difficult... Additionally I wonder how difficult it would be to add some sort of mdns magic so that something like apt-mirror.local could be used for the mirror? After that, update sources.list on all the new systems so that they function without the install party mirror and Bob's your uncle. Cheers, Nicholas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#866085: At least it should be the option to not download
> > You could also download a CD or DVD image and burn 10 or > 20 discs. That allows installation without internet connection > on many machines at the same time. > And you have something to hand out to the people ... > > Holger > No, I couldn't. Each one of these discs will download packages from internet. And if network card is not configured, people will have no iface registered at /etc/network/interfaces and no mirror to use later at /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list All this combination is a labyrinth to do what a user WANTS to do. Recommendations, defaults, warnings, etc. are a way, but prohibitions and obligations are a very different way about relation between FOSS and users.
Bug#866085: At least it should be the option to not download
Hi, Am Mittwoch 28. Juni 2017 schrieb Narcis Garcia: > > > > If you are doing an install party, set up a proxy server. That really > > really helps a lot. > > > > Not only experts should be able to do an install party; some more people > wants to share small knowledge and experiences. You could also download a CD or DVD image and burn 10 or 20 discs. That allows installation without internet connection on many machines at the same time. And you have something to hand out to the people ... Holger -- Sent from my Jolla phone http://www.jolla.com/
Bug#866085: At least it should be the option to not download
> > If you are doing an install party, set up a proxy server. That really > really helps a lot. > Not only experts should be able to do an install party; some more people wants to share small knowledge and experiences.
Bug#866085: At least it should be the option to not download
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 08:52:31AM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > If you *will* be connected to the internet you *will* need to install > security updates; > Internet is not the only source for packages (). If someone > installs Debian on 3 computers (or repeats installation 3 times), it > shouldn't mean to use 3x internet traffic repeating installer downloads. > > A) This user can save and reuse packages cache and apply updates at the > convenient moment. > B) When repeating install at the same computer (e.g. changing install > decisions such as partitioning, architecture, etc.) the user only needs > updates on final one. > > Most of internet uses on the world have really low bandwidth accessing > to the internet, and making (some) unnecessary downloads can be a money > & time problem. > > + > I've participated on an "install party" where only half of Debian > installs could be done because of this issue. If you are doing an install party, set up a proxy server. That really really helps a lot. -- Len Sorensen
Bug#866085: At least it should be the option to not download
If you *will* be connected to the internet you *will* need to install security updates; Internet is not the only source for packages (). If someone installs Debian on 3 computers (or repeats installation 3 times), it shouldn't mean to use 3x internet traffic repeating installer downloads. A) This user can save and reuse packages cache and apply updates at the convenient moment. B) When repeating install at the same computer (e.g. changing install decisions such as partitioning, architecture, etc.) the user only needs updates on final one. Most of internet uses on the world have really low bandwidth accessing to the internet, and making (some) unnecessary downloads can be a money & time problem. + I've participated on an "install party" where only half of Debian installs could be done because of this issue.
