Processed: Re: Bug#908804: [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to recommends

2018-09-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug #908804 [task-desktop] [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to 
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Bug #908804 [task-desktop] [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to 
recommends
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Bug#908804: [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to recommends

2018-09-30 Thread Holger Wansing
Control: tags -1 - pending
Control: tags -1 + wontfix

Hrr, copy-and-paste error



Holger Wansing  wrote:
> Control: tags -1 + pending
> 
> Julien Cristau  wrote:
> > On 09/14/2018 09:03 AM, Alexander Kernozhitsky wrote:
> > > Package: task-desktop
> > > Version: 3.45
> > > Severity: wishlist
> > > 
> > > Now task-desktop depends on xserver-xorg-video-all, which forces to have 
> > > all 
> > > the video drivers in the system, even if they appear unused. I suggest to 
> > > move 
> > > xserver-xorg-video-all into Recommends and depend on xorg-driver-video 
> > > (to 
> > > force the system to have at least one video driver installed).
> > > 
> > I don't think this makes sense.  There's little cost to having unused
> > drivers around (hell, installing the kernel package gets you loads more
> > that you can't opt out of), and installing a single random driver is
> > typically not going to get you anything.
> 
> Alexander's proposal makes sense when it comes to creating a minimalistic
> system for example. 
> This is however not the approach behind this tasks from tasksel; they have to 
> serve a maximum of hardware and user configurations, and especially need to 
> fit 
> for unexperienced users. 
> Experienced users or people with special requirements will have the knowledge,
> how to make their system suitable for their needs.
> That's not the scope of tasksel and its tasks.
> 
> So tagging this bug as wontfix




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Bug#908804: [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to recommends

2018-09-30 Thread Holger Wansing
Control: tags -1 + pending

Julien Cristau  wrote:
> On 09/14/2018 09:03 AM, Alexander Kernozhitsky wrote:
> > Package: task-desktop
> > Version: 3.45
> > Severity: wishlist
> > 
> > Now task-desktop depends on xserver-xorg-video-all, which forces to have 
> > all 
> > the video drivers in the system, even if they appear unused. I suggest to 
> > move 
> > xserver-xorg-video-all into Recommends and depend on xorg-driver-video (to 
> > force the system to have at least one video driver installed).
> > 
> I don't think this makes sense.  There's little cost to having unused
> drivers around (hell, installing the kernel package gets you loads more
> that you can't opt out of), and installing a single random driver is
> typically not going to get you anything.

Alexander's proposal makes sense when it comes to creating a minimalistic
system for example. 
This is however not the approach behind this tasks from tasksel; they have to 
serve a maximum of hardware and user configurations, and especially need to fit 
for unexperienced users. 
Experienced users or people with special requirements will have the knowledge,
how to make their system suitable for their needs.
That's not the scope of tasksel and its tasks.

So tagging this bug as wontfix


Holger



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Processed: Re: Bug#908804: [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to recommends

2018-09-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> tags -1 + pending
Bug #908804 [task-desktop] [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to 
recommends
Added tag(s) pending.

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Bug#908804: [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to recommends

2018-09-20 Thread Julien Cristau
On 09/14/2018 09:03 AM, Alexander Kernozhitsky wrote:
> Package: task-desktop
> Version: 3.45
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> Now task-desktop depends on xserver-xorg-video-all, which forces to have all 
> the video drivers in the system, even if they appear unused. I suggest to 
> move 
> xserver-xorg-video-all into Recommends and depend on xorg-driver-video (to 
> force the system to have at least one video driver installed).
> 
I don't think this makes sense.  There's little cost to having unused
drivers around (hell, installing the kernel package gets you loads more
that you can't opt out of), and installing a single random driver is
typically not going to get you anything.

Cheers,
Julien



Bug#908804: [task-desktop] Move xserver-xorg-video-all to recommends

2018-09-14 Thread Alexander Kernozhitsky
Package: task-desktop
Version: 3.45
Severity: wishlist

Now task-desktop depends on xserver-xorg-video-all, which forces to have all 
the video drivers in the system, even if they appear unused. I suggest to move 
xserver-xorg-video-all into Recommends and depend on xorg-driver-video (to 
force the system to have at least one video driver installed).

--- System information. ---
Architecture: 
Kernel:   Linux 4.18.0-1-amd64

Debian Release: buster/sid
  990 testing ftp.by.debian.org 
  500 unstableftp.by.debian.org 

--- Package information. ---
Depends (Version) | Installed
=-+-===
tasksel  (= 3.45) | 3.45
xorg  | 1:7.7+19
xserver-xorg-video-all| 1:7.7+19
xserver-xorg-input-all| 1:7.7+19
desktop-base  | 9.0.7


Recommends (Version) | Installed
-+-===
task-gnome-desktop   | 
 OR task-xfce-desktop| 
 OR task-kde-desktop | 3.45
 OR task-lxde-desktop| 
 OR task-cinnamon-desktop| 
 OR task-mate-desktop| 
 OR task-lxqt-desktop| 
xdg-utils| 1.1.3-1
avahi-daemon | 0.7-4
libnss-mdns  | 0.14.1-1
anacron  | 2.3-24
eject| 2.1.5+deb1+cvs20081104-13.2
iw   | 4.14-0.1
alsa-utils   | 1.1.6-1
libu2f-udev  | 
sudo | 1.8.23-2
firefox  | 62.0-1
 OR firefox-esr  | 


Package's Suggests field is empty.
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Alexander Kernozhitsky