Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Paul Wise  [2009-07-12 09:57]:
> > Like FTBFS of linux-modules-extra-2.6 on 3 architectures I guess? That
> > seemed to me like a valid reason not to want to migrate .29 to testing.
> 
> Also the armel linux-2.6 FTBFS:
> 
> https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=linux-2.6;ver=2.6.30-2;arch=armel;stamp=1247068753

Thanks, I've fixed that.
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Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Frans Pop  wrote:

> Like FTBFS of linux-modules-extra-2.6 on 3 architectures I guess? That
> seemed to me like a valid reason not to want to migrate .29 to testing.

Also the armel linux-2.6 FTBFS:

https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=linux-2.6;ver=2.6.30-2;arch=armel;stamp=1247068753

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Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 11 July 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
> > what are the remaining issues that you are concerned about?
>
> The ones that prevent linux-2.6 from migrating once it would be
> unblocked.

Like FTBFS of linux-modules-extra-2.6 on 3 architectures I guess? That 
seemed to me like a valid reason not to want to migrate .29 to testing.


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Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Luk Claes
maximilian attems wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 01:08:05PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
>> It needs quite some work to get reverse dependencies handled and getting
>> it built on all architectures. Both of which are the main responsability
>> of the kernel team...
> 
> it is mostly done, beside the strange cpio missing build dep,
> that funnily surfaced now on i686. fixed in latest repo and
> scheduled for upload latest on this upcoming week.
>  
>>> Could this be prioritized by the involved teams (mostly kernel and
>>> release, I'd guess) or are there already some plans for this to
>>> happen?
>> There are no plans to force anything in like some propose in such
>> situations as there is no clear plan of the kernel team to get the
>> remaining issues solved soon after it would be forced in.
> 
> without force hints linux-2.6 goes nowhere.

If you mean this in general then you are misinformed. If you mean atm,
then you know the answer to your following question.

> what are the remaining issues that you are concerned about?

The ones that prevent linux-2.6 from migrating once it would be unblocked.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread maximilian attems
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 01:08:05PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
> 
> It needs quite some work to get reverse dependencies handled and getting
> it built on all architectures. Both of which are the main responsability
> of the kernel team...

it is mostly done, beside the strange cpio missing build dep,
that funnily surfaced now on i686. fixed in latest repo and
scheduled for upload latest on this upcoming week.
 
> > Could this be prioritized by the involved teams (mostly kernel and
> > release, I'd guess) or are there already some plans for this to
> > happen?
> 
> There are no plans to force anything in like some propose in such
> situations as there is no clear plan of the kernel team to get the
> remaining issues solved soon after it would be forced in.

without force hints linux-2.6 goes nowhere.

what are the remaining issues that you are concerned about?


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Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Luk Claes (l...@debian.org):

> > Could this be prioritized by the involved teams (mostly kernel and
> > release, I'd guess) or are there already some plans for this to
> > happen?
> 
> There are no plans to force anything in like some propose in such
> situations as there is no clear plan of the kernel team to get the
> remaining issues solved soon after it would be forced in.


So, could we get some input from the kernel team on this topic, then?

Are you guys prioritizing work to get a new kernel in testing or work
to get yet another upstream release in unstable?

(from the above sentence and the discussion we had during the D-I team
meeting, you probably understand where is my own preference going)



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Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Luk Claes
Christian Perrier wrote:
> During the last meeting of the D-I 'team' (ahem) which logs can be read
> from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings, the situation
> of the kernel packages wrt testing transition was raised.
> 
> Apparently, having a new kernel in testing (whether this is 2.6.30 or
> whatever other funky new version appears soon is not really relevant)
> is quite hairy.

It needs quite some work to get reverse dependencies handled and getting
it built on all architectures. Both of which are the main responsability
of the kernel team...

> Could this be prioritized by the involved teams (mostly kernel and
> release, I'd guess) or are there already some plans for this to
> happen?

There are no plans to force anything in like some propose in such
situations as there is no clear plan of the kernel team to get the
remaining issues solved soon after it would be forced in.

Cheers

Luk


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Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-07 Thread Christian Perrier
During the last meeting of the D-I 'team' (ahem) which logs can be read
from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings, the situation
of the kernel packages wrt testing transition was raised.

Apparently, having a new kernel in testing (whether this is 2.6.30 or
whatever other funky new version appears soon is not really relevant)
is quite hairy.

Indeed hairy enough for this to not have happened since the release of
lenny, 5 months ago.

Among other things, that is a blocker for a release of D-I, which is
otherwise nearly ready.

From what was said during the D-I meeting (but more details can be
bringed in by people who are more aware of this than me), a transition
for D-I packages is similar to a library transition.

http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=linux-2.6

Could this be prioritized by the involved teams (mostly kernel and
release, I'd guess) or are there already some plans for this to
happen?

(please respect Reply-To as -release is not meant to be a discussion
list and the topic doesn't have much to do with D-I...except that we
need this to happen for a release to happen)


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