Re: Debian Installer Meeting on Friday 7 November 2008 at 21:00 UTC
On Saturday 08 November 2008, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 09:28:51PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: There will be a Debian Installer Meeting on Friday 7 November 2008 at 21:00 UTC. Sorry folks, I've seen the log of the meeting, I've seen the proposed changes for errata and announcement. I've seen the total confusion about when RC1 should happen (why the hell another week of pointless delays?). I give up in total despair and frustration. I've no doubt you (plural!) will manage to publish something, but I already know that I'll be hopelessly disappointed. It really appears that nobody has any clue what current issues are, what needs to be done or how to do it. Everything is done on a minimal effort basis (apparently hoping that someone else will do the real work) with a total lack of control over quality or process. I've been trying to set myself today to give some more constructive response, but I just don't have the energy anymore. It means I won't bitch anymore when I see things going wrong, you'll just be on your own. I will complete the current release process for the manual and possibly even do a second release later if that would mean we can add extra translations. Please do _not_ interfere in that process and respect my announcements regarding the freeze state of D-I SVN for the manual. My announcements and updates are clear enough when it comes to timing. You should be able to draw your own conclusions from that, but feel free to ask specific questions if needed. On Wednesday 05 November 2008, Otavio Salvador wrote: No, this is a person who has a fullday work plus University trying to do his best to make the release happen. You might just help on that instead of blame me. You may not like my bitching, but despite everything I think I've still done a hell of a lot more that anybody else in the team (not including yourself) for this release: - fixing the recent tzsetup and preseed issues - major work on debian-cd to get it ready for lenny - I'm still the only person who's made any real effort to reply to installation reports and follow up on issues - I've been the only person to do any structured testing (except for tbm on arm(el), who really does keep those arches in excellent shape) - I have up to now followed the release process, which effectively meant duplicating all your work because of your failure to communicate anything about what you were planning or doing A few semi-constructive comments then. The most serious issues ATM are related to reopen-console/steal-ctty in rootskel. That has had way to little testing; we really only knows it works for the most common installs on x86/arm. See the BTS and I fear there's more still waiting to be discovered. I also hope that someone will at least have the courtesy to reply to Osamu Aoki, even if the issue he raised is not handled (which is an RM decision!). I also hope someone will look into Neale Pickett's mail as there is a strong indication that encrypted LVM may be broken. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Debian Installer Meeting on Friday 7 November 2008 at 21:00 UTC
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 09:28:51PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: There will be a Debian Installer Meeting on Friday 7 November 2008 at 21:00 UTC. More information is available at the wiki page below. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings/Coordination Log file: http://people.debian.org/~anibal/d-i/debian-boot-20081107.log Minutes --- People who participated in the meeting: otavio: Otavio Salvador bubulle : Christian Perrier anibal: Anibal Monsalve Salazar tbm : Martin Michlmayr mace : Miah Gregory franklin : Franklin Piat faw : Felipe Augusto van de Wiel cjwatson : Colin Watson Ryan52: Ryan Niebur Apologies received from: fjp : Frans pop RC1 --- For RC1, we have done most things. Help is needed for more people to re-read the announcement [1] and the errata [2]. Christian will ask debian-l10n-english to review the announcement. Martin reports that mips and arm are complete and he will contact other porters about the other architectures and subarchitectures. He'll check the announcement for any missing thing, as well. The errata is outdated. Otavio will post an errata with a few updates to the mailing list so others could test the current issues in the errata. Colin may check the errata WRT PowerMac issues. Frans probably has some hints for the errata. Currently, some versions of binary packages used by the D-I are not in testing yet. This will be taken care of during RC2. Otavio will go through the mail messages about packages that need an ACK from D-I before they are unbloked by the release team. Frans followed the string freeze and translation status so he can probably deal with that. The deadline is on Monday 10 November. The announcement has to wait for the final CD build which takes 2 days. So, the release announcement, errata and website should be ready by Friday 14 November. Christian will commit aupdates for the release announcement, errata and website. RC2 --- Otavio raised the following RC2 issues: - win32-loader needs to go to lenny - kernel needs updating - l-m-e-2.6 needs fixing due virtualbox version missmatch (did not check if it has been fixed or not) - fix any discovered critical bug in rc1 - check source packages that need to go to lenny due GPL Post-lenny -- Otavio will open svn for post-lenny changes after RC1. Colin will keep an eye on possible changes and push them. Release Announcement Otavio proposed to form a team for the release management after RC1. Christian said the team will have some identified tasks, such as release announcement is kept up-to-date by $person1, errata is managed by $person2 and so on. Next Meeting Anibal will announce a small meeting for Tuesday 11 November at 21:00 UTC. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce [2] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Debian Installer Meeting on Friday 7 November 2008 at 21:00 UTC
There will be a Debian Installer Meeting on Friday 7 November 2008 at 21:00 UTC. More information is available at the wiki page below. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings/Coordination Please add your agenda items at the above wiki page where you could find a number of agenda items already there. Please add your own agenda items. Friday 7 November 2008 at 21:00 UTC is also: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:00:00 -0800 US/Pacific Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:00:00 -0500 US/Eastern Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:00:00 -0200 Brazil/East Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:00:00 + Zulu Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:00:00 +0100 Europe/Paris Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:00:00 +1100 Australia/Melbourne signature.asc Description: Digital signature
