Re: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
On 07/28/2011 01:40 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 13:35, Rick Thomasrbtho...@pobox.com wrote: ... PS: The corresponding sid d-i install CD is even worse. It has problems with choosing a language and can't get far enough to check for kernel modules. Please get the current (today's) daily from sid and give it a try. If it fails, try to get the syslog so we can see what's going on. We fixed some scanning CD issues yestarday and it might have fixed yours but need confirmation of it. Regarding the language choose if it fails then we need to fix it first since Wheezy built is a week old now. I used the latest powerpc netinstall.iso and I customised the iso with a preseed.cfg. I added another local repository in the apt-setup section of the preseed.cfg. Partitioning and base system installation went fine. At the moment of configuring apt and installing the packages it won't continue. If I go to a shell and look at /var/log/syslog, I see the following error: date/time grub-installer: GRUB not yet usable on PowerPC systems other than Pegasos/Efika date/time main-menu[218]: INFO: Menu item 'apt-setup-udeb' selected date/time apt-setup: /usr/lib/apt-setup/generators/50mirror backed up date/time main-menu[218]: INFO: Menu item 'apt-setup-udeb' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured then repetition of the same text over and over again... My guess is that this is a bug, my preseed.cfg looks fine. I think the problem is the build grabs the default (stable) d i kernel, but uses kernel modules from testing or unstable, so the modules don't match. The d i system reports no kernel modules were found, but it means, the kernel modules won't load into the running kernel. I use debian-cd periodically to generate an install image. I have not been able to determined, albeit I haven't tried very hard, how to correct this build behavior. I've not been able to build using debian-cd an install CD that works. I always end up using jigdo. If you feed jigdo-lite a local mirror, after about 10 minutes it starts building the image, and it works. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1319422492.10732.14.camel@adiabatic
Re: Installation report [failed] [Was: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs]
Sure did... See bug #636269. Enjoy! Rick On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: Install went without a hitch until it came time to reboot into the newly installed system. Did you try to install a more recent image? If don't, could you give it a new try and send us the syslog (gzipped) thus we can guess what have went wrong? -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAP9ODKryTCOopb=JF7Rp0AR+hq+FSiJD=hb-nbzqpfvimr3...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/796412d3-772e-4359-83c9-d73bdaa44...@pobox.com
Re: Installation report [failed] [Was: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs]
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: Install went without a hitch until it came time to reboot into the newly installed system. Did you try to install a more recent image? If don't, could you give it a new try and send us the syslog (gzipped) thus we can guess what have went wrong? -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAP9ODKryTCOopb=JF7Rp0AR+hq+FSiJD=hb-nbzqpfvimr3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installation report [failed] [Was: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs]
In contrast to Jeroen's report that Wheezy installation went fine on G3 Mac... I just tried the sid_d-i testing daily businesscard. (details of exactly which iso are available on request) Install went without a hitch until it came time to reboot into the newly installed system. The stage-1 boot script asked ... Linux or CD... as expected. I typed l for Linux and was presented with a flashing questionmark on a folder. This is *not* the regular Mac flashing questionmark on a folder icon that Open Firmware presents when it can't find any bootable media. It's much cruder and lot more pixelated. Tomorrow I'll try again. I'll see if I can get some log files by booting the CD in rescue mode. Rick On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: OK. I'll try again on Monday or Tuesday (busy weekend coming up). Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/6bfd6fbf-664d-4779-a975-888e92c17...@pobox.com
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 07:18, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: Is it safe to assume that this problem (no kernel modules), which I encountered with the wheezy_d-i PowerPC businesscard installer image, is not worth worrying about, as long as if doesn't still exist in the Sid_d-i? My assumption is that the Sid_d-i will become the wheezy_d-i in the normal due course of development, and there is plenty of time for that to happen before first Wheezy release sometime in 2013 -- so I should be concentrating my efforts on testing Sid_d-i? Yes; Sid d-i is the development base for the wheezy version so people test it. -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAP9ODKqYTL3uBb5PQFfo4-=aslesv1cubdh7t8jo8uha46z...@mail.gmail.com
Installation report [failed] [Was: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs]
OK, I downloaded http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-businesscard.iso Daily build #5 for powerpc, using installer build from sid These images will install the testing version of Debian, currently Wheezy. ... This build finished at Thu Jul 28 15:34:43 UTC 2011. I burned it and tried to install it on one of my test PowerPC Mac G4 systems. After booting the CD, there were a lot of messages that scrolled by too fast to get details, but all of them seemed to have something to do with missing some UTF8 localization stuff. At the [!!] Select a language screen, I chose C - No localization. It gave me a blue screen that never went away. Second try: at the [!!] Select a language screen, I chose English (the default). It gave me the [!] Debian installer main menu screen with Choose language hi-lighted. I hit CR and it went back to the [!!] Select a language screen. So I chose English (again) and at the main-menu screen I used the down-arrow to force it to the next step, Select a keyboard layout. I chose American English. The install then proceeded for a while, doing network detection and setup, picking a mirror, and passwords for root and the first user. Then it returned to the [!!] Select a language screen. I selected English (for a 3rd time) and it returned me to the main menu with Configure the clock hi-lighted. I hit CR and wound up back at the [!!] Select a language screen. At this point, I decided I'd had enough and saved the logs, which are attached to this email, gzipped, of course. Hope it helps! Rick install-logs.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: Installation report [failed] [Was: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs]
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 02:18:29AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: After booting the CD, there were a lot of messages that scrolled by too fast to get details, but all of them seemed to have something to do with missing some UTF8 localization stuff. This is the cause of everything else. I *think* I've fixed it in localechooser 2.38 (actually, just by the fact of reuploading it, but I also added a check so that it should fail to build rather than building a broken version). We should find out in a day or two. For d-i developers without powerpc systems, this may be useful (you'll need qemu-system and openbios-ppc installed): qemu-system-ppc -monitor stdio -cpu G4 -M mac99 -bios /usr/share/openbios/openbios-ppc -cdrom debian-testing-powerpc-businesscard.iso -boot order=d -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110729152129.ga23...@master.debian.org
Re: Installation report [failed] [Was: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs]
Hi David, Hi Colin, On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:35 PM, David Ricar wrote: On 07/29/2011 08:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: After booting the CD, there were a lot of messages that scrolled by too fast to get details, but all of them seemed to have something to do with missing some UTF8 localization stuff. Could you try setting console to serial port and capturing the output? That way gives you everything in text format, so it is very useful for debug. Cheers David I'm aware of that option. I thought about trying it when I was in the depths of frustration with this but... That's fairly complicated on a NewWorld Mac. Apart from the fact that all the G4 Macs don't have a serial port -- so you have to use a Blue and White G3, it's possible -- given old enough hardware -- but it involves doing things with Open Firmware that may leave your machine in a semi-bricked state if you get it wrong. (recovery is possible, but you get the idea... I'd rather not) Maybe somebody could try it out with a qemu VM? I'm not familiar with that setup, so I can't guess if it's easier... In any case, Colin thinks he's fixed the problem. So I'll wait a couple of days for his fix to percolate down (up?) to the daily d-i builds, and try again. Colin, do you have any idea when your fix will be available for testing? Can you let me know when it happens? Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/fd892e35-d0fa-40da-9d4a-6998c32fd...@pobox.com
Re: Installation report [failed] [Was: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs]
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 20:59, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: Colin, do you have any idea when your fix will be available for testing? Can you let me know when it happens? It is just a matter of waiting a cuple of days. If it doesn't work we can check the build log and see if it has gotten the fixed localechooser or not. -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cap9odkom-eru9xx+vzjdkv_rp4fovqkxpwv-mdkfqnzhvod...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installation report [failed] [Was: Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs]
OK. I'll try again on Monday or Tuesday (busy weekend coming up). Rick On Jul 29, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 20:59, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: Colin, do you have any idea when your fix will be available for testing? Can you let me know when it happens? It is just a matter of waiting a cuple of days. If it doesn't work we can check the build log and see if it has gotten the fixed localechooser or not. -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/363aabce-48c7-4c05-9d7a-f9949ffa8...@pobox.com
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: Hi Otavio, On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:41, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: We still have this problem. Three weeks later. Did you check current image? We got many issues fixed and would be nice to do a new try. By the way, are you scanning for the ISO or booting it directly? That was with the current image as of when I wrote it -- yesterday, July 27th at 08:41 UTC. I burned the image (Wheezy d-i, daily build, PowerPC Businesscard, from cdimage.debian.org) and booted it on one of my test G4 Macs. I reported what I saw: No kernel modules were found. I didn't personally scan the CD to see if there were any kernel modules hiding on it in out-of-the-way closets. I let the installer do that for me. I figured it knew where to look better than I would. I want to help (as a tester, not a developer) so if there's a different image I should try, please let me know. Rick PS: The corresponding sid d-i install CD is even worse. It has problems with choosing a language and can't get far enough to check for kernel modules. Is it safe to assume that this problem (no kernel modules), which I encountered with the wheezy_d-i PowerPC businesscard installer image, is not worth worrying about, as long as if doesn't still exist in the Sid_d-i? My assumption is that the Sid_d-i will become the wheezy_d-i in the normal due course of development, and there is plenty of time for that to happen before first Wheezy release sometime in 2013 -- so I should be concentrating my efforts on testing Sid_d-i? Or should I be pressing on this problem as well? Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/6bb614f0-e13f-4dcd-8929-09a6695ce...@pobox.com
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
Hi Otavio, That was with the current image as of when I wrote it -- yesterday, July 27th at 08:41 UTC. I burned the image (Wheezy d-i, daily build, PowerPC Businesscard, from cdimage.debian.org) and booted it on one of my test G4 Macs. I reported what I saw: No kernel modules were found. I didn't personally scan the CD to see if there were any kernel modules hiding on it in out-of-the-way closets. I let the installer do that for me. I figured it knew where to look better than I would. I want to help (as a tester, not a developer) so if there's a different image I should try, please let me know. Rick PS: The corresponding sid d-i install CD is even worse. It has problems with choosing a language and can't get far enough to check for kernel modules. On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:41, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: We still have this problem. Three weeks later. Did you check current image? We got many issues fixed and would be nice to do a new try. By the way, are you scanning for the ISO or booting it directly? -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bc32239e-d917-4af1-a5a0-26d8bc256...@pobox.com
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 13:35, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: ... PS: The corresponding sid d-i install CD is even worse. It has problems with choosing a language and can't get far enough to check for kernel modules. Please get the current (today's) daily from sid and give it a try. If it fails, try to get the syslog so we can see what's going on. We fixed some scanning CD issues yestarday and it might have fixed yours but need confirmation of it. Regarding the language choose if it fails then we need to fix it first since Wheezy built is a week old now. -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAP9ODKr=nabNFaN3cJ=ks2s9hiddedupe_aqx3fybmauprw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
I found that there are two screens full of errors, about missing UTF-8 something for each locale. If you scroll up with Shift-PageUp from first installer screen, then you can see. Gasha On 07/28/2011 02:35 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: PS: The corresponding sid d-i install CD is even worse. It has problems with choosing a language and can't get far enough to check for kernel modules. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e314f05.6040...@pie-dabas.net
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
On 07/28/2011 01:40 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 13:35, Rick Thomasrbtho...@pobox.com wrote: ... PS: The corresponding sid d-i install CD is even worse. It has problems with choosing a language and can't get far enough to check for kernel modules. Please get the current (today's) daily from sid and give it a try. If it fails, try to get the syslog so we can see what's going on. We fixed some scanning CD issues yestarday and it might have fixed yours but need confirmation of it. Regarding the language choose if it fails then we need to fix it first since Wheezy built is a week old now. I used the latest powerpc netinstall.iso and I customised the iso with a preseed.cfg. I added another local repository in the apt-setup section of the preseed.cfg. Partitioning and base system installation went fine. At the moment of configuring apt and installing the packages it won't continue. If I go to a shell and look at /var/log/syslog, I see the following error: date/time grub-installer: GRUB not yet usable on PowerPC systems other than Pegasos/Efika date/time main-menu[218]: INFO: Menu item 'apt-setup-udeb' selected date/time apt-setup: /usr/lib/apt-setup/generators/50mirror backed up date/time main-menu[218]: INFO: Menu item 'apt-setup-udeb' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured then repetition of the same text over and over again... My guess is that this is a bug, my preseed.cfg looks fine. Hope this helps Jeroen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e31c3a7.3010...@zonnet.nl
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
Hi Otavio, On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:40 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 13:35, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: ... PS: The corresponding sid d-i install CD is even worse. It has problems with choosing a language and can't get far enough to check for kernel modules. Please get the current (today's) daily from sid and give it a try. OK, I'm downloading http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-businesscard.iso as I type. Daily build #5 for powerpc, using installer build from sid These images will install the testing version of Debian, currently Wheezy. See the top-level daily directory for more information about the daily builds. This build finished at Thu Jul 28 15:34:43 UTC 2011. I'll get as many log-type details as I can and report back. However... The last time I tried sid_d-i, I couldn't get it to mount a USB stick (or anything else!) to put the log files on, so I gave up and went to bed -- reasoning that if I was having so many problems, so would other people (it didn't look like a PowerPC specific problem) and it would have to get noticed and fixed soon; I'd try again then. I sincerely hope that now is then, but if it isn't I'll still report what I can. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/b059e6d0-b4ac-4c10-8019-69affcdd5...@pobox.com
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
We still have this problem. Three weeks later. On 07/04/11 01:37, Rick Thomas wrote: I just downloaded and burned Businesscard and Netinst CDs from Daily build #1 for powerpc, using installer build from wheezy These images will install the testing version of Debian, currently Wheezy. See the top-level daily directory for more information about the daily builds. This build finished at Mon Jul 4 03:38:56 UTC 2011. Name Last modified Size Parent Directory - MD5SUMS.small 04-Jul-2011 05:38 143 SHA1SUMS.small 04-Jul-2011 05:38 159 SHA256SUMS.small 04-Jul-2011 05:38 207 SHA512SUMS.small 04-Jul-2011 05:38 335 debian-testing-powerpc-businesscard.iso 04-Jul-2011 05:37 78M debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso 04-Jul-2011 05:38 261M Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) Server at cdimage.debian.org Port 80 When I attempted to install (using either CD) I got [!!] Load installer components from CD No kernel modules were found. ... Just thought you'd like to know... Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2fb337.7010...@pobox.com
Re: No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:41, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: We still have this problem. Three weeks later. Did you check current image? We got many issues fixed and would be nice to do a new try. By the way, are you scanning for the ISO or booting it directly? -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br
No kernel modules were found PowerPC Businesscard and Netinst daily CDs
I just downloaded and burned Businesscard and Netinst CDs from Daily build #1 for powerpc, using installer build from wheezy These images will install the testing version of Debian, currently Wheezy. See the top-level daily directory for more information about the daily builds. This build finished at Mon Jul 4 03:38:56 UTC 2011. inline: blank.gif Name Last modified Size inline: back.gif Parent Directory - inline: unknown.gif MD5SUMS.small04-Jul-2011 05:38 143 inline: unknown.gif SHA1SUMS.small04-Jul-2011 05:38 159 inline: unknown.gif SHA256SUMS.small 04-Jul-2011 05:38 207 inline: unknown.gif SHA512SUMS.small 04-Jul-2011 05:38 335 inline: unknown.gif debian-testing-powerpc-businesscard.iso 04-Jul-2011 05:37 78M inline: unknown.gif debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso04-Jul-2011 05:38 261M Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) Server at cdimage.debian.org Port 80 When I attempted to install (using either CD) I got [!!] Load installer components from CD No kernel modules were found. ... Just thought you'd like to know... Rick
