Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Luna Jernberg]

Unsure if i can help with the 11.7 testing this weekend (don't really
have hardware to test on at the moment this week), but pretty sure i
can help out with the 12 testing in June :) and hopefully the 11.8
testing later


On 4/23/23, Steve McIntyre  wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 09:13:40PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Let's book June 10 as the bookworm release date. A more formal
>> announcement
>>will follow.
>
> \o/
>
> --
> Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.
> st...@einval.com
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> there
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> the
>   far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a
> silver-handled
>   knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer
>
>

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Steve McIntyre]

On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 09:13:40PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Let's book June 10 as the bookworm release date. A more formal announcement
>will follow.

\o/

-- 
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  Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there
  must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the
  far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled
  knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Paul Gevers]

Hi all,

Let's book June 10 as the bookworm release date. A more formal 
announcement will follow.


Paul


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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Ansgar]

Hi,

On Sun, 2023-04-23 at 18:02 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
> Any FTP master for 10 or 17 June?

So far it looks fine for me.

> kibi  - 10, 17, 24    d-i
> Luna  - 10, 17, 24    CD testing
> elbrus    - 10, 17, 24    release team
> adsb  - 10, 17, 24    release team
> Sledge    - 10, 17, 24    images team
> donald    - 10, 17    press

Ansgar

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Paul Gevers]

Hi,

Any FTP master for 10 or 17 June?

kibi  - 10, 17, 24    d-i
Luna  - 10, 17, 24    CD testing
elbrus    - 10, 17, 24    release team
adsb  - 10, 17, 24    release team
Sledge    - 10, 17, 24    images team
donald- 10, 17press

Paul


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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Donald Norwood]

Hi,

On 4/20/23 
15:15, 
Steve 
McIntyre 
wrote:

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:20:51PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:

Hi all,

TL;DR: ftp & press input for June needed.

On 20-04-2023 18:29, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

The 13th does seem a bit close now, without having announced.

After some consideration today, and the vibe felt in this discussion, let's
not rush this, so let's skip May 13 (also giving Press some time, see below).


One other thing of note is that, unless I've missed some mail, there's
no press / publicity team member confirmed as available, which is
really a requirement.

Jonathan (DPL) mentioned earlier:
"""
Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix that
after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a good idea not
to block on them.
"""
If press is "really a requirement", we'll have to wait until this is settled.


>From the CD side we know that with May 13 out, the rest of May is also out.

So we're looking for a date in June. For June, starting with 10, we have:
kibi  - 10, 17, 24d-i
Luna  - 10, 17, 24CD testing
elbrus- 10, 24release team
adsb  - 10, 17, 24release team

Sledge - 10, 17, 24images team

June 10 
and 17 are 
workable.


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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Steve McIntyre]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:20:51PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>TL;DR: ftp & press input for June needed.
>
>On 20-04-2023 18:29, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
>> The 13th does seem a bit close now, without having announced.
>
>After some consideration today, and the vibe felt in this discussion, let's
>not rush this, so let's skip May 13 (also giving Press some time, see below).
>
>> One other thing of note is that, unless I've missed some mail, there's
>> no press / publicity team member confirmed as available, which is
>> really a requirement.
>
>Jonathan (DPL) mentioned earlier:
>"""
>Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix that
>after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a good idea not
>to block on them.
>"""
>If press is "really a requirement", we'll have to wait until this is settled.
>
>From the CD side we know that with May 13 out, the rest of May is also out.
>So we're looking for a date in June. For June, starting with 10, we have:
>kibi  - 10, 17, 24d-i
>Luna  - 10, 17, 24CD testing
>elbrus- 10, 24release team
>adsb  - 10, 17, 24release team

Sledge - 10, 17, 24images team

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com
Is there anybody out there?

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Paul Gevers]

Hi all,

TL;DR: ftp & press input for June needed.

On 20-04-2023 18:29, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

The 13th does seem a bit close now, without having announced.


After some consideration today, and the vibe felt in this discussion, 
let's not rush this, so let's skip May 13 (also giving Press some time, 
see below).



One other thing of note is that, unless I've missed some mail, there's
no press / publicity team member confirmed as available, which is
really a requirement.


Jonathan (DPL) mentioned earlier:
"""
Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix 
that after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a 
good idea not to block on them.

"""
If press is "really a requirement", we'll have to wait until this is 
settled.


From the CD side we know that with May 13 out, the rest of May is also 
out. So we're looking for a date in June. For June, starting with 10, we 
have:

kibi  - 10, 17, 24d-i
Luna  - 10, 17, 24CD testing
elbrus- 10, 24release team
adsb  - 10, 17, 24release team

Paul


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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

Sorry for taking so long to get back to the dates question. I hope to
also have a useful reply to your other mail by the end of this weekend.

On Thu, 2023-04-20 at 11:32 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
> On 13-04-2023 11:29, Paul Gevers wrote:
> > For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.
> 
> I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to
> get the key to me in time.
> 

As mentioned previously, there'll need to be signatures from each of
the bookworm, bullseye and buster keys on the day.

> Which leaves finding a date (and me learning what to do :) ).
> 
> We have (if earlier mentioned dates still work for those involved):
>  May  | June
> > kibi  - 13, 20, 27   d-i
> > mhy   - 13, 20, 27   ftp
>  > Sledge- 13   CD
> > Luna  - 20   CD testing
> > elbrus- 13  27, (3), 10, 24  release team
> 
> It seems a tiny bit late for 13 already, but still, would be
> awesome. 

The 13th does seem a bit close now, without having announced. I could
do it if that's the decision, although I will be away the week before
(returning home some time on the 12th). I'm afraid I don't really have
a feel for how "ready" things would be by then.

It looks like I could currently do any Saturday from May 13th onwards,
until the end of June. I have a slight preference for avoiding the
weekend of June 3rd if possible.

One other thing of note is that, unless I've missed some mail, there's
no press / publicity team member confirmed as available, which is
really a requirement.

Regards,

Adam

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Cyril Brulebois]

Steve McIntyre  (2023-04-20):
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:32:49AM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
> >We have (if earlier mentioned dates still work for those involved):
> > May  | June
> > > kibi  - 13, 20, 27   d-i

I'm also fine with any dates in June, not sure if I failed to answer
properly earlier…

> > > mhy   - 13, 20, 27   ftp
> > > Sledge- 13   CD
> > > Luna  - 20   CD testing
> > > elbrus- 13  27, (3), 10, 24  release team
> >
> > It seems a tiny bit late for 13 already, but still, would be
> > awesome. What do we think?

I share your feelings regarding the “tiny bit late” part but I suppose
that should be workable. (It feels a little weird to go from “we don't
have a date yet” to “pick the very first one, just 3 weeks away all of
a sudden”, but…)

> > If we have somebody from CD to do 27 (yes, I remember Sledge can't
> > do that one), that would be great as it would be my preference; I'll
> > have lots of Debian people physically around me. As the DPL
> > mentioned, we might not want to block on press availability,
> > although it would be real great if we had them.
> 
> Unfortunately, the other person on the images team who has the
> knowledge to do a release (Andy) is also away - we're on the same
> vacation! May 27 and June 3 are both out for that reason.

We were thinking about the next d-i release before the end of April, so
maybe I'll know how to spin builds after that… which would put May 27 on
the table, which would feel a little less “tomorrow-ish” than May 13.

But again, if we go for May 13, I'll make that work…


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Steve McIntyre]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:32:49AM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>Progress \o/.
>
>On 13-04-2023 11:29, Paul Gevers wrote:
>> For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.
>
>I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to get the key
>to me in time.
>
>Which leaves finding a date (and me learning what to do :) ).

OK...

>We have (if earlier mentioned dates still work for those involved):
>May  | June
>> kibi  - 13, 20, 27   d-i
>> mhy   - 13, 20, 27   ftp
>> Sledge- 13   CD
>> Luna  - 20   CD testing
>> elbrus- 13  27, (3), 10, 24  release team
>
>It seems a tiny bit late for 13 already, but still, would be awesome. What do
>we think?

I'm still OK for the 13th.

>If we have somebody from CD to do 27 (yes, I remember Sledge can't
>do that one), that would be great as it would be my preference; I'll have
>lots of Debian people physically around me. As the DPL mentioned, we might
>not want to block on press availability, although it would be real great if
>we had them.

Unfortunately, the other person on the images team who has the
knowledge to do a release (Andy) is also away - we're on the same
vacation! May 27 and June 3 are both out for that reason.

-- 
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 practice, but if you do it fast enough it’s Machine Learning.”
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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Luna Jernberg]

Can't really go to Hamburg as it collides with the openSUSE Conference for me

But should be avaible to test some ISOs at home next weekend for 11.7 and

  May: 20
 and all the Saturdays in June for Debian 12


On 4/20/23, Adam D. Barratt  wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-04-20 at 11:32 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Progress \o/.
>>
>> On 13-04-2023 11:29, Paul Gevers wrote:
>> > For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.
>>
>> I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to
>> get the key to me in time.
>>
>
> I'm aware this still needs much more input from me :-/ but as a quick
> note, for the record it's key*s*. The Release files contain both
> codenames and suite designations, so the moves of stable to oldstable
> and oldstable to oldoldstable mean that buster and bullseye's Release
> files will also need re-signing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Adam
>
>

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Thu, 2023-04-20 at 11:32 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Progress \o/.
> 
> On 13-04-2023 11:29, Paul Gevers wrote:
> > For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.
> 
> I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to
> get the key to me in time.
> 

I'm aware this still needs much more input from me :-/ but as a quick
note, for the record it's key*s*. The Release files contain both
codenames and suite designations, so the moves of stable to oldstable
and oldstable to oldoldstable mean that buster and bullseye's Release
files will also need re-signing.

Regards,

Adam

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Paul Gevers]

Dear all,

Progress \o/.

On 13-04-2023 11:29, Paul Gevers wrote:

For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.


I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to get 
the key to me in time.


Which leaves finding a date (and me learning what to do :) ).

We have (if earlier mentioned dates still work for those involved):
May  | June

kibi  - 13, 20, 27   d-i
mhy   - 13, 20, 27   ftp

> Sledge- 13   CD

Luna  - 20   CD testing
elbrus- 13  27, (3), 10, 24  release team


It seems a tiny bit late for 13 already, but still, would be awesome. 
What do we think? If we have somebody from CD to do 27 (yes, I remember 
Sledge can't do that one), that would be great as it would be my 
preference; I'll have lots of Debian people physically around me. As the 
DPL mentioned, we might not want to block on press availability, 
although it would be real great if we had them.


Paul


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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Paul

On 2023/04/13 11:29, Paul Gevers wrote:
> The 13th is in a month from today. We're still missing press and a 
cooked solution for the release team.


Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix 
that after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a 
good idea not to block on them.


> I'll be at the Debian Reunion Hamburg on the 27, so that feels like a 
good day (albeit probably missing talks) to do the release if I were to 
handle it without the experienced team members. We would still be 
missing CD & press too for that day.


For the little bit I can do, I'm available to help in Hamburg. Also, if 
anyone from the release team wants to the MiniDC in Hamburg, then Debian 
funds are available for that.


-Jonathan

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Paul

On 2023/04/13 11:29, Paul Gevers wrote:
The 13th is in a month from today. We're still missing press and a 
cooked solution for the release team.


Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix 
that after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a 
good idea not to block on them.


I'll be at the Debian Reunion Hamburg on the 27, so that feels like a 
good day (albeit probably missing talks) to do the release if I were to 
handle it without the experienced team members. We would still be 
missing CD & press too for that day.


For the little bit I can do, I'm available to help in Hamburg. Also, if 
anyone from the release team wants to the MiniDC in Hamburg, then Debian 
funds are available for that.


-Jonathan

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Paul Gevers]

Hi all,

On 26-03-2023 19:55, Steve McIntyre wrote:

Nobody else seems to have replied yet, so... :-)


Two weeks have gone by since the last mail in this thread.


If I did the bookkeeping correctly, the missing necessary teams are press and
release team, as I now have:
kibi  - 6, 13, 20, 27   d-i
mhy   - 6, 13, 20, 27   ftp
Sledge- 6, 13   CD
Luna  - 6, 20   CD testing
elbrus-13, 27   release team


The 13th is in a month from today. We're still missing press and a 
cooked solution for the release team.


That means I'm going to have two part in this e-mail:
1) question in public what the options are for me handling the release
   day
2) extend with possible dates into June (because finding a date seems to
   be a major bottle neck for the bookworm release)

Re 1)
I'll be at the Debian Reunion Hamburg on the 27, so that feels like a 
good day (albeit probably missing talks) to do the release if I were to 
handle it without the experienced team members. We would still be 
missing CD & press too for that day.


For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key, but I 
don't see me traveling to Jonathan any time soon (and I don't expect the 
reverse to happen either). Are there *established* secure ways of 
handing over keys without real-life meetings?


I think that most of the required actions for the Release Team during a 
release are documented on the Wiki [1]. I think I can handle those 
(albeit some are documented a bit dense). Are there known items missing?


Re 2)
Let's see when people are available for
  May 13, 20, 27
 June  3, 10, 17, 24

In June, I can do 10 and 24 and if needed I can arrange 3.

Paul

[1] 
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/ReleaseCheckList/BookwormCheckList 
[While Releasing]


PS: quoting stappers: Silence is hard to parse


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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Laura Arjona Reina]

Hello all

El 23/3/23 a las 13:31, Paul Gevers escribió:

Hi,

With the point release scheduled for April 29th, it's probably good to 
have at least one weekend in between, or do people not mind doing two 
weekends in a row?


On 17-03-2023 15:59, Steve McIntyre wrote:

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:26:00AM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:

So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?


I could do the 6th and 13th, but I'm away on vacation 20th and 27th
(and 3rd June).


If I did the bookkeeping correctly, the missing necessary teams are 
press and release team, as I now have:

kibi  - 6, 13, 20, 27   d-i
mhy   - 6, 13, 20, 27   ftp
Sledge    - 6, 13   CD
Luna  - 6, 20   CD testing

I can help 6 (probably), 13 and 27, but I don't have the signing key and 
I haven't witnessed all details from our side so I'm not comfortable 
doing it alone even if I could get my hands on the key.


elbrus    -    13, 27  release team

Paul


I have no spoons to do/coordinate the work that the release needs in the 
publicity side, so better that other express their availability.

If situation changes, I'll write again.

Thanks

--
Laura Arjona Reina
https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Steve McIntyre]

Hey Paul,

Nobody else seems to have replied yet, so... :-)

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 01:31:22PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
>Hi,
>
>With the point release scheduled for April 29th, it's probably good to have
>at least one weekend in between, or do people not mind doing two weekends in
>a row?

Definitely *not* two weekends on the run, please!

>On 17-03-2023 15:59, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:26:00AM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
>> > So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
>> > weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?
>> 
>> I could do the 6th and 13th, but I'm away on vacation 20th and 27th
>> (and 3rd June).
>
>If I did the bookkeeping correctly, the missing necessary teams are press and
>release team, as I now have:
>kibi  - 6, 13, 20, 27   d-i
>mhy   - 6, 13, 20, 27   ftp
>Sledge- 6, 13   CD
>Luna  - 6, 20   CD testing
>
>I can help 6 (probably), 13 and 27, but I don't have the signing key and I
>haven't witnessed all details from our side so I'm not comfortable doing it
>alone even if I could get my hands on the key.
>
>elbrus-13, 27  release team

13th could work. I'll admit I'm a little anxious about the amount of
work needed before release, but tbh that's not a new thing here... :-)

-- 
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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Paul Gevers]

Hi,

With the point release scheduled for April 29th, it's probably good to 
have at least one weekend in between, or do people not mind doing two 
weekends in a row?


On 17-03-2023 15:59, Steve McIntyre wrote:

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:26:00AM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:

So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?


I could do the 6th and 13th, but I'm away on vacation 20th and 27th
(and 3rd June).


If I did the bookkeeping correctly, the missing necessary teams are 
press and release team, as I now have:

kibi  - 6, 13, 20, 27   d-i
mhy   - 6, 13, 20, 27   ftp
Sledge- 6, 13   CD
Luna  - 6, 20   CD testing

I can help 6 (probably), 13 and 27, but I don't have the signing key and 
I haven't witnessed all details from our side so I'm not comfortable 
doing it alone even if I could get my hands on the key.


elbrus-13, 27  release team

Paul


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Re: 11.7 planning

[Luna Jernberg]

Will help out the 29th April :)

On 3/18/23, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 08:33:47PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>> We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
>> before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
>> how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
>> soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
>
> So 29th April is the earliest viable option; announcements to follow.
>
> --
> Jonathan Wiltshire  j...@debian.org
> Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw
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>
>

Re: 11.7 planning

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 08:33:47PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
> before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
> how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
> soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

So 29th April is the earliest viable option; announcements to follow.

-- 
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Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw

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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Steve McIntyre]

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:26:00AM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
>
>From where I'm looking, bookworm is looking pretty good. Obviously we'll have
>to follow through on the flurry of unblock requests that came in after the
>hard freeze, but that should be manageable in a couple of weeks. kibi just
>told me on IRC that asking this question now is not crazy from a d-i point of
>view. That hopefully means that around the end of April, also the bookworm
>d-i should™ be ready for release (kibi, I'm sure you'll comment on this if I
>got you wrong or if you want to provide more details).
>
>So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
>weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?

I could do the 6th and 13th, but I'm away on vacation 20th and 27th
(and 3rd June).

-- 
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 "politician in the middle of a natural disaster" playbook, however
 incompetently, while Trump scribbles all over it in crayon and eats some
 of the pages.'   -- Russ Allbery

Re: 11.7 planning

[Steve McIntyre]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 08:33:47PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
>before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
>how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
>soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

I think I'm clear for any of:

8th
22nd
29th

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Re: 11.7 planning

[Laura Arjona Reina]

Hello

El 16 de marzo de 2023 13:21:52 CET, Donald Norwood  
escribió:
>29th is workable.
>

I can the 15th and 22nd of April.
For now I cannot say anything about my availability for May (bookworm release).

Kind regards

>On 3/15/23 18:36, Andy wrote:
>> On 15 March 2023 20:33:47 GMT, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
>>> before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
>>> how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
>>> soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I can do 15th, 22nd or 29th
>> Isy is only available from the 29th (mocks)
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> /Andy
>

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Re: 11.7 planning

[Donald Norwood]

29th is workable.

On 3/15/23 18:36, Andy wrote:

On 15 March 2023 20:33:47 GMT, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:

Hi,

We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

Thanks,




I can do 15th, 22nd or 29th
Isy is only available from the 29th (mocks)

Best wishes
/Andy


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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

Paul Gevers  (2023-03-16):
> From where I'm looking, bookworm is looking pretty good. Obviously
> we'll have to follow through on the flurry of unblock requests that
> came in after the hard freeze, but that should be manageable in a
> couple of weeks. kibi just told me on IRC that asking this question
> now is not crazy from a d-i point of view.

Asking questions is never crazy. :)

> That hopefully means that around the end of April, also the bookworm
> d-i should™ be ready for release (kibi, I'm sure you'll comment on
> this if I got you wrong or if you want to provide more details).

At this stage, I'd still like to have at least two releases out. The
first few weeks after the Alpha 2 release were awfully quiet
feedback-wise, that's much better now, and we've got a few fixes and
improvements queued up. There's also a brand new set of shim* packages,
which should definitely end up in some release at some point.

Without having checked with Steve yet, I certainly expect us to be able
to publish at least a release in March and another before say mid-April…
 
> So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
> weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?

… which should be all good for a tentative release in May, we would
still have time for a few extra tweaks with a final debian-installer
upload, should they be needed at that stage (rather than wait until
12.1).


Cheers,
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Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Luna Jernberg]

Can the 6th and 20th in May

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:26 AM Paul Gevers  wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> On 15-03-2023 21:33, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
> > before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
> > how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
> > soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
>
> I know some people will call me crazy, but can and should we combine
> this with finding a release date for bookworm?
>
>  From where I'm looking, bookworm is looking pretty good. Obviously
> we'll have to follow through on the flurry of unblock requests that came
> in after the hard freeze, but that should be manageable in a couple of
> weeks. kibi just told me on IRC that asking this question now is not
> crazy from a d-i point of view. That hopefully means that around the end
> of April, also the bookworm d-i should™ be ready for release (kibi, I'm
> sure you'll comment on this if I got you wrong or if you want to provide
> more details).
>
> So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
> weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?
>
> Paul

Re: 11.7 planning + bookworm planning

[Paul Gevers]

Dear all,

On 15-03-2023 21:33, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:

We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.


I know some people will call me crazy, but can and should we combine 
this with finding a release date for bookworm?


From where I'm looking, bookworm is looking pretty good. Obviously 
we'll have to follow through on the flurry of unblock requests that came 
in after the hard freeze, but that should be manageable in a couple of 
weeks. kibi just told me on IRC that asking this question now is not 
crazy from a d-i point of view. That hopefully means that around the end 
of April, also the bookworm d-i should™ be ready for release (kibi, I'm 
sure you'll comment on this if I got you wrong or if you want to provide 
more details).


So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension 
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?


Paul


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Re: 11.7 planning

[Luna Jernberg]

If you want my help with testing i can do the later April dates 15th,
22nd and 29th

On 3/15/23, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
> before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
> how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
> soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Jonathan Wiltshire  j...@debian.org
> Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw
>
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>
>

Re: 11.7 planning

[Andy]

On 15 March 2023 20:33:47 GMT, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
>before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
>how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
>soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
>
>Thanks,
>


I can do 15th, 22nd or 29th
Isy is only available from the 29th (mocks)

Best wishes
/Andy 

Re: 11.7 planning

[Cyril Brulebois]

Jonathan Wiltshire  (2023-03-15):
> We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
> before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
> how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
> soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

I should be able to accommodate any dates for the installer side.


Cheers,
-- 
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D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: 11.7 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Wed, 2023-03-15 at 20:33 +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update
> included
> before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the
> keyring so
> how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably
> too
> soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

A quick reply in the interests of expediency:

1st - could work, but could be a bit tight as things stand
8th - Easter weekend, so possible people are away / busy. Could work
for me although I have slightly selfish personal reasons for it not
being my favourite. :-)
15th - fine
22nd - doesn't work for me
29th - fine

Regards,

Adam