Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Hi! Am 26.02.2011 15:21, schrieb Christian PERRIER: uploaded the babelbox.tar.gz to my people.d.o page. Feel free to put that back to the d-i webpage and change the link back. Done. Danke, Alex... Not yet perfect. During last week, I found some bugs, but due I didn't had the opportunity to debug them properly. But maybe we can get them solved with the help of the -i18n folks. Beside the dpms issue, I noticed the following bugs: 1) One - to me unknown - language seems to miss it's font files, as can be seen on this screenshot: http://people.debian.org/~tolimar/tmp/unknown-language.jpg What language is that? What font package is missing? And why wasn't it installed via tasksel? 2) Sometimes a Brazilian Portuguese dictionary get's installed and asked a question not yet preseeded. Funnily, that seems to happen for more languages, than Brazilian, as I saw the question asked in some language using Cyrillic letters. You can see that example here http://people.debian.org/~tolimar/tmp/preseed.jpg What would we need to pressed to get that question preseeded? And why is it asked during other languages as well? 3) When the installation reaches Kazahk it doesn't continue. It remains in the language selection. Pressing the continue button doesn't help, one get's back to Kazahk. Log on tty-something doesn't show anything special. Well, and 4) being the language currently being installed isn't always displayed. But I think that's a known bug already (having something to do with language names being to long?). I have a virtual machine with the babelbox ready, if you need me to debug it further or try something out. If I export it, it takes up about 9GB... If there's interest, I can upload it to somewhere. Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d74f371.1000...@schmehl.info
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
O'Neill, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl alexan...@schmehl.info (07/03/2011): 1) One - to me unknown - language seems to miss it's font files, as can be seen on this screenshot: http://people.debian.org/~tolimar/tmp/unknown-language.jpg What language is that? What font package is missing? And why wasn't it installed via tasksel? I think I recognise those symbols: Unicode Character 'DEVANAGARI LETTER KA' (U+0915) Unicode Character 'DEVANAGARI LETTER RA' (U+0930) … So that might be Devanagari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari). Daniel Jackson. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Hi, On Montag, 7. März 2011, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: 2) Sometimes a Brazilian Portuguese dictionary get's installed and asked a question not yet preseeded. Funnily, that seems to happen for more languages, than Brazilian, as I saw the question asked in some language using Cyrillic letters. You can see that example here http://people.debian.org/~tolimar/tmp/preseed.jpg this is a (variation of a) bug in dictionaries-common and/or ispell, see #595749 and #566912 (and its variations). cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Hi! Am 07.03.2011 17:17, schrieb Holger Levsen: 2) Sometimes a Brazilian Portuguese dictionary get's installed and asked a question not yet preseeded. Funnily, that seems to happen for more languages, than Brazilian, as I saw the question asked in some language using Cyrillic letters. You can see that example here http://people.debian.org/~tolimar/tmp/preseed.jpg this is a (variation of a) bug in dictionaries-common and/or ispell, see #595749 and #566912 (and its variations). Ah, thanks for the information. As I always saw Portuguese when I saw the error, I looked for bug reports saying something about Portuguese. So in case of Babelbox, the problem might be solved by simply installing some wordlist? I'll try that tomorrow. Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d75139f.9070...@schmehl.info
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): O'Neill, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl alexan...@schmehl.info (07/03/2011): 1) One - to me unknown - language seems to miss it's font files, as can be seen on this screenshot: http://people.debian.org/~tolimar/tmp/unknown-language.jpg What language is that? What font package is missing? And why wasn't it installed via tasksel? I think I recognise those symbols: Unicode Character 'DEVANAGARI LETTER KA' (U+0915) Unicode Character 'DEVANAGARI LETTER RA' (U+0930) … So that might be Devanagari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari). Hmmm, actually, Devanagari is a script name, more than a language. Several Indic languages are using the Devanagari script. Among those we support, the three that use Devanagari are Hindi, Marathi and Nepali. The marathi-desktop has ttf-devanagari-fonts in Key: while the two others only have it in Packages-list. So, depending on the support used for the babelbox install, if ttf-devanagari-fonts was missing or not installable, that may explain the result. Still, I'm not completely sure about this to be the right reason for the seen problem. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Hi! Am 07.03.2011 19:06, schrieb Christian PERRIER: The marathi-desktop has ttf-devanagari-fonts in Key: while the two others only have it in Packages-list. So, depending on the support used for the babelbox install, if ttf-devanagari-fonts was missing or not installable, that may explain the result. I had a complete mirror available, so in theory that shouldn't be a problem. But as only three languages remain, I can do further testing tomorrow. Best regards, Alexander, who proposes a full Babelbox run as QA for the next release ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d752200.4070...@schmehl.info
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Quoting Alexander Reichle-Schmehl (alexan...@schmehl.info): Hi! Am 07.03.2011 19:06, schrieb Christian PERRIER: The marathi-desktop has ttf-devanagari-fonts in Key: while the two others only have it in Packages-list. So, depending on the support used for the babelbox install, if ttf-devanagari-fonts was missing or not installable, that may explain the result. I had a complete mirror available, so in theory that shouldn't be a problem. But as only three languages remain, I can do further testing tomorrow. I also forwarded your mail to debian-dug...@lists.debian.org (the mailing list for Indic languages users). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Hi! Am 07.03.2011 19:25, schrieb Christian PERRIER: I also forwarded your mail to debian-dug...@lists.debian.org (the mailing list for Indic languages users). Ah, very good. Thanks! Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d7537e1.5080...@schmehl.info
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org (26/02/2011): 2) Sometimes the virtual monitor was turned off during the installation due to inactivity. I think it always happened using the gui installer, but not with the text installer, so I guess it's X-related? However, droping the desktop task and installing minimal gnome solved the issue for me, as the installation is now fast enough :) DPMS and/or gnome-power-manager come to mind? KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Quoting Alexander Reichle-Schmehl (toli...@debian.org): uploaded the babelbox.tar.gz to my people.d.o page. Feel free to put that back to the d-i webpage and change the link back. Done. Danke, Alex... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Hi! * Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org [110226 14:27]: 2) Sometimes the virtual monitor was turned off during the installation due to inactivity. [..] DPMS and/or gnome-power-manager come to mind? Sorry, should have been clearer: It happens, while the debian-installer runs, not after the installed system has been booted. So I don't think it's gnome-power-manger, but something else DPMS related. I *think* it's only an issue when using the graphical installer (as I only saw it happen there, not while a text based installation was running). So my best guess would be that X has DPMS enabled by default, and if installation takes to long, it sends the monitor to sleep? Not sure, if it's worth to change anything just for some people running a bablebox for some time, as long as the install less packages so it doesn't take so long fix works ;) Best Regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110226142340.gh15...@melusine.alphascorpii.net
Re: Babelbox updated for squeeze
Hello, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org (26/02/2011): Sorry, should have been clearer: It happens, while the debian-installer runs, not after the installed system has been booted. So I don't think it's gnome-power-manger, but something else DPMS related. ah, installing a smaller set of packages means less time spent installing, and no black out, OK. I *think* it's only an issue when using the graphical installer (as I only saw it happen there, not while a text based installation was running). So my best guess would be that X has DPMS enabled by default, and if installation takes to long, it sends the monitor to sleep? Not sure, if it's worth to change anything just for some people running a bablebox for some time, as long as the install less packages so it doesn't take so long fix works ;) I guess it might make sense to support passing additional options to X through d-i. In this case, you might want to try passing “-dpms”. Quoting the Xserver manpage: |dpmsenables DPMS (display power management services), where sup‐ |ported. The default state is platform and configuration spe‐ |cific. | |-dpms disables DPMS (display power management services). The default |state is platform and configuration specific. I'm not sure which options could be useful, though. Anyway, you could check the DPMS hypothesis yourself, rebuilding rootskel-gtk with this option added to: src/lib/debian-installer.d/S62Xorg KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
