Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:20:26PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Stop. Breathe. Walk away. See http://www.donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ for more information. Ironicaly, publicly calling someone a demented maniac archieves precisely the opposite purpose that this site seems to encourage. Yet, it seems to contain some wise advice. But I'm afraid you can't really have wisdom without compassion. Find compassion first. -- Robert Millan My spam trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: this address is only intended for spam harvesters. Writing to it will get you added to my black list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 03:31:46AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: You are wrong, this is an issue pertaining to the whole of debian, who chose to let the DAMs punish me, while knowing this was unfair, while everyone with the least sense of decency would notice that people like Geert or Holger, or Frans, deserved the same or worse punishment. Nobody deserves punishment. Specially not punishment in retaliation for other punishment. Can't we all just forget and get along? Friendly, -- Robert Millan My spam trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: this address is only intended for spam harvesters. Writing to it will get you added to my black list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 06:09:16PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 03:31:46AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: You are wrong, this is an issue pertaining to the whole of debian, who chose to let the DAMs punish me, while knowing this was unfair, while everyone with the least sense of decency would notice that people like Geert or Holger, or Frans, deserved the same or worse punishment. Nobody deserves punishment. Specially not punishment in retaliation for other punishment. Can't we all just forget and get along? Well, Debian has decided that it didn't want to forget and get along, but rather to punish in a neboulous one-sided way. And furthermore, it chose to side with those who acted in a non-decent way, which refused any tentative of peaceful resolution of this conflict, which chose the camp of hate and rejection. I am all for forgetting and getting along, but the other side didn't want this, and why should they, while they where sure to get the full support of the powerful in debian. Frans still has me banned from the debian-boot irc channel (even making a typo in his ban :), and Geert is still attacking me in a totally unprovoked way. This doesn't sound something which is encouraging to forgetting and get along. Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 05:59:52PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:20:26PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Stop. Breathe. Walk away. See http://www.donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ for more information. Ironicaly, publicly calling someone a demented maniac archieves precisely the opposite purpose that this site seems to encourage. Yet, it seems to contain some wise advice. But I'm afraid you can't really have wisdom without compassion. Find compassion first. What else is new, if those involved here just even knew the meaning of compasion and plain common sense, we would all happily be coding since over a year now. Sadened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Sunday 20 May 2007 20:10, Philippe Cloutier wrote: This site is about public forums, such as electronic mailing lists or chat rooms. Forums content is of temporary nature. I don't see how the site could apply to permanent data such as what is kept in a wiki. On the other hand, I have asked you once before (privately on IRC) to stop changing these pages. I'm asking again now. So do I. I'm getting sick of receiving these changes notifications because I'm subscribed to changes to all DebianInstaller/* pages. I don't care a single eurocent about the pages being accurate or appropriate. So, please, just drop it off and leave these pages as they are. -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
Op 20-05-2007 om 15:36 schreef Steve Langasek: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:20:26PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Stop. Breathe. Walk away. See http://www.donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ for more information. Er, what? Why are you quoting 'dontfeedtheenergybeast', and then *forwarding* potentially inflammatory content to us Because it is a better response then ignore that wasn't on this mailing list before? Due restricted time: Addressing the whole (d-i) community versus addressing just one person. Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:47:51PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Op 20-05-2007 om 15:36 schreef Steve Langasek: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:20:26PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Stop. Breathe. Walk away. See http://www.donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ for more information. Er, what? Why are you quoting 'dontfeedtheenergybeast', and then *forwarding* potentially inflammatory content to us Because it is a better response then ignore No, do something with the potential to suck a development mailing list into a pointless off-topic discussion is not better than ignore. that wasn't on this mailing list before? Due restricted time: Addressing the whole (d-i) community versus addressing just one person. AFAICS, this isn't an issue pertaining to the d-i community, it's an issue pertaining to people who edit the wiki... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:47:51PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Op 20-05-2007 om 15:36 schreef Steve Langasek: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:20:26PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Stop. Breathe. Walk away. See http://www.donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ for more information. Er, what? Why are you quoting 'dontfeedtheenergybeast', and then *forwarding* potentially inflammatory content to us Because it is a better response then ignore A better answer is to do the (minimal on your part) effort to solve this issue in a human and decent way, but this would ask that you recognize you have been wrong and have been acting like an unfeeling bastard all along, which you are not emotionally equiped to do, so you go on the offensive in the most hurting way. Geert, i really don't understand how you (and the others involved here) can loook themselves in a mirror and not feel ashamed of what they have done to me. And you are all lucky i have a family, and am still, despite your efforts to destroy me, somewhat sane, if you had done to someone else less sane, what you have done to me, in could very well have ended in a blood bath, just look at the kind of things happening in US high schools for example. that wasn't on this mailing list before? Due restricted time: Addressing the whole (d-i) community versus addressing just one person. What about being humanly decent, and recognizing what you have done, and asking for apology. Just look at everyone recognizing that Debian has acted unfairly against me in all this, and ask yourself why debian had absolutely to act unfairly. It was because you and holger and frans, and a couple of others could absolutely not live without forcing debian to act fairly in this. See what you have done to debian by your arrogance and stubborness ? You have forced debian to no more be something beautiful to be proud of, but something unfair and ugly, to be ashamed of. Shame on you, shame on the d-i team, Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 03:46:57PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:47:51PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Op 20-05-2007 om 15:36 schreef Steve Langasek: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:20:26PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Stop. Breathe. Walk away. See http://www.donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ for more information. Er, what? Why are you quoting 'dontfeedtheenergybeast', and then *forwarding* potentially inflammatory content to us Because it is a better response then ignore No, do something with the potential to suck a development mailing list into a pointless off-topic discussion is not better than ignore. that wasn't on this mailing list before? Due restricted time: Addressing the whole (d-i) community versus addressing just one person. AFAICS, this isn't an issue pertaining to the d-i community, it's an issue pertaining to people who edit the wiki... You are wrong, this is an issue pertaining to the whole of debian, who chose to let the DAMs punish me, while knowing this was unfair, while everyone with the least sense of decency would notice that people like Geert or Holger, or Frans, deserved the same or worse punishment. Shame on Debian, Shame on what you have all done to it, Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:20:26PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Stop. Breathe. Walk away. See http://www.donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ for more information. Hey, Geert and all, Why can't you guys not just leave me alone ? You already won all you wanted, and there is really no need to gloat over it, and keep coming at me. For some guys who accused me of all possible evil, and saying i can't forget old grudges, you behave in a real hypocrit way. Geert, i really regret i ever sponsored you into Debian, i guess the NM process should have some check in place to prevent people who like to make their fellow DD suffer to ever become DD, but then what do you want, like Wouter said, behaving as assholes is acceptable, provided the new release goes forward. This makes me sick, you cannot imagine how much, so ... Just go away, and torture someone else somewhere for a while, ok ? Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
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Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Sunday 20 May 2007 20:10, Philippe Cloutier wrote: This site is about public forums, such as electronic mailing lists or chat rooms. Forums content is of temporary nature. I don't see how the site could apply to permanent data such as what is kept in a wiki. On the other hand, I have asked you once before (privately on IRC) to stop changing these pages. I'm asking again now. pgphf0KIJYcRK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Stop. Breathe. Walk away.
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:20:26PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: Stop. Breathe. Walk away. See http://www.donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ for more information. Er, what? Why are you quoting 'dontfeedtheenergybeast', and then *forwarding* potentially inflammatory content to us that wasn't on this mailing list before? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
