Spam cleaning effort: July 2010
We're now in August, so it's time for our team of magic reviewers to work on July 2010 archives. More details on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SpamClean Note that, out of about 20-25 spams identified for June month, only 5 have been finally removed from the archive. It means that we probably need a few more DD's to look at signalled spam for the debian-boot mailing list through https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/review/review1.pl. If you're a DD, please think about it. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Spam cleaning effort: July 2010
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote: We're now in August, so it's time for our team of magic reviewers to work on July 2010 archives. More details on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SpamClean Note that, out of about 20-25 spams identified for June month, only 5 have been finally removed from the archive. It means that we probably need a few more DD's to look at signalled spam for the debian-boot mailing list through I disagree. I believe the above fact indicates that we need a better communication mechanism for reviewers, rather than more isolated and thus un-coordinated effort. For example, even with the first reviewer's hint that he found 14 spam, I was not able to duplicate reach that count despite several extra passes over the month. The simplest change I can think of is to allow people to see the list of messages that have been nominated by other reviewers. One way to do that would be to just make the information available. Another way to do that would be to create a collaboration page whereupon reviewers could deposit their nominations for the benefit of subsequent reviewers. Had I more authority that I am willing to assert unilaterally I would simply place the current month's list of nominees immediately after the monthly summary info on the spam cleaning page referenced above. https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/review/review1.pl. If you're a DD, please think about it. Why do the reviewers need to be DDs? -- Lee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinyjsuwgm3zizsighawhosyn1kk4ssyv9baz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Spam cleaning effort: July 2010
On Sunday 01 August 2010, Lee Winter wrote: It means that we probably need a few more DD's to look at signalled spam for the debian-boot mailing list through I disagree. I believe the above fact indicates that we need a better communication mechanism for reviewers, rather than more isolated and thus un-coordinated effort. Christian's comment is more about the last stage of the removal process (the final review that can only be done by DDs) than the searching for and reporting of spam. I also don't think it's a big problem as the review will get done eventually. This current focus on getting the spam cleaned out within the shortest time possible is unnecessary. d-boot is already by far the cleanest list in the archives. For example, even with the first reviewer's hint that he found 14 spam, I was not able to duplicate reach that count despite several extra passes over the month. The simplest change I can think of is to allow people to see the list of messages that have been nominated by other reviewers. One way to do that would be to just make the information available. Another way to do that would be to create a collaboration page whereupon reviewers could deposit their nominations for the benefit of subsequent reviewers. I strongly disagree. The spam review process is purposely based on the fact that spam messages are reported independently. Coordinating the reporting of spam to the extend you are suggesting would defeat the safeguards explicitly built into the process. I'm all in favor of continuing the process I started last year, but there's absolutely no need to be obsessive about it. It is better that some spams are missed and left in the archive than that the process is abused. Cheers, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008011410.50729.elen...@planet.nl
Re: Spam cleaning effort: July 2010
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): I also don't think it's a big problem as the review will get done eventually. This current focus on getting the spam cleaned out within the shortest time possible is unnecessary. d-boot is already by far the cleanest list in the archives. The main point is not completing things in the shortest possible timeframe, but more being sure that we still have enough people working on both stages. Whether or not things are done immediately is of course irrelevant, though experience shows that repetitive processes that are regularly monitored are those who are less likely to vanish without anyone really noticing. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
