Re: Switching default install entry to graphical installer?

2010-08-10 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Cyril Brulebois]
> IIRC/AFAICT console-setup is used in d-i (udeb), and the questions get
> asked again when keyboard-configuration (deb) [or maybe console-setup
> (deb)?] is configured. In a perfect world, files/settings should be
> propagated to the target environment, and used to preseed the
> templates, and skip the question if appropriate.

There seem to be code to do this in some udeb, which fail and report
several error: lines in /var/log/syslog.  So there is a bug somewhere
making this fail.

Is there anyone working on fixing this?

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Re: Switching default install entry to graphical installer?

2010-08-09 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Petter Reinholdtsen  (09/08/2010):
> I suspect it is related to the fact that the g-i images use a
> different udeb to set up the console than the non-g-i images, but do
> not really know.
> 
> Is this a known problem?

Mentioned in Feb/Mar 2010, at least.

IIRC/AFAICT console-setup is used in d-i (udeb), and the questions get
asked again when keyboard-configuration (deb) [or maybe console-setup
(deb)?] is configured. In a perfect world, files/settings should be
propagated to the target environment, and used to preseed the
templates, and skip the question if appropriate.

But that's only based on my recollection / current grasp of the
situation.

Mraw,
KiBi.


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Re: Switching default install entry to graphical installer?

2010-08-09 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Daniel Baumann]
> i've been testing the graphical installer quite intensively during
> the last days and it works very well. given that these days most of
> the crappy hardware that used to not work with g-i has either
> vanished completely, or, represents a supposedly so insignificant
> share of the target audience, that i think we should make g-i the
> default entry on the regular d-i images, as it's much nicer for the
> general audience and supports more languages.

While I agree that this would be a nice thing to do, there is a
misfeature somewhere in g-i that should be addressed first.

When installing with the graphical installer, heaps of error messages
show up in the installation log from base-installer.d/20console-setup
which fai to find the keyboard-configuration debconf templates.  The
installer also ask for keyboard layout twice, once early in the
process, and once after tasksel is done downloading packages.  I
suspect these are related, but have not had time to investigate the
issue.

I suspect it is related to the fact that the g-i images use a
different udeb to set up the console than the non-g-i images, but do
not really know.

Is this a known problem?

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Re: Switching default install entry to graphical installer?

2010-08-03 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 08/04/2010 07:15 AM, Sergey Korobitsin wrote:
> a question: is there any way to build the actual d-i with
> gui-installer and the live-installer support included?

lh config --debian-installer live --debian-installer-gui true && lh build

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Re: Switching default install entry to graphical installer?

2010-08-03 Thread Sergey Korobitsin
Daniel Baumann ☫ → To Debian Install System Team @ Tue, Aug 03, 2010 23:21 +0200

> Hi,
> 
> i've been testing the graphical installer quite intensively during the
> last days and it works very well. given that these days most of the
> crappy hardware that used to not work with g-i has either vanished
> completely, or, represents a supposedly so insignificant share of the
> target audience, that i think we should make g-i the default entry on
> the regular d-i images, as it's much nicer for the general audience and
> supports more languages.

Yes, I think so too, graphical installer is more user-friendly and the
amount of hardware not supporting it is going to be smaller and smaller.

BTW, a question: is there any way to build the actual d-i with
gui-installer and the live-installer support included?

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Re: Switching default install entry to graphical installer?

2010-08-03 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

Daniel Baumann  wrote:
> target audience, that i think we should make g-i the default entry on
> the regular d-i images, as it's much nicer for the general audience and
> supports more languages.

That would require some changings to the d-i manual, too, as there
the g-i is only described in an appendix.


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Re: Switching default install entry to graphical installer?

2010-08-03 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Daniel Baumann (dan...@debian.org):
> Hi,
> 
> i've been testing the graphical installer quite intensively during the
> last days and it works very well. given that these days most of the
> crappy hardware that used to not work with g-i has either vanished
> completely, or, represents a supposedly so insignificant share of the
> target audience, that i think we should make g-i the default entry on
> the regular d-i images, as it's much nicer for the general audience and
> supports more languages.


You get my +1 vote for it. This is indeed roughly what we agreed upon
when lenny was released with g-i. Of course, in the meantime, g-i
changed quite significantly.

As I was saying this morning in the X talk, sometimes, taking risks is
worth it.

Still, I'd suggest discussing this also in -devel.




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Switching default install entry to graphical installer?

2010-08-03 Thread Daniel Baumann
Hi,

i've been testing the graphical installer quite intensively during the
last days and it works very well. given that these days most of the
crappy hardware that used to not work with g-i has either vanished
completely, or, represents a supposedly so insignificant share of the
target audience, that i think we should make g-i the default entry on
the regular d-i images, as it's much nicer for the general audience and
supports more languages.

Regards,
Daniel

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