Re: Switching to graphical installer by default?

2013-01-27 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi folks,

Cyril Brulebois  (02/01/2013):
> Also, is there anyone aware of any reasons against switching to
> graphical installer by default?

it's been a while (and I'm quite unhappy to have been kept busy on
other things), but I think I might consider this change for a possible
rc2. There will be a few grub-installer things to iron out before a
final release, so a second release candidate is likely.

Now back to getting rc1 finally out.

Mraw,
KiBi.


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Re: Switching to graphical installer by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Miguel Figueiredo

Em 03-01-2013 01:27, Steve McIntyre escreveu:

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None here, we could/should have done it a while back IMO.


+1

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Re: Switching to graphical installer by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bob Proulx, le Wed 02 Jan 2013 22:51:56 -0700, a écrit :
> Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Also, is there anyone aware of any reasons against switching to
> > graphical installer by default?
> 
> Can I at least say that I don't like the mouse installer and much
> prefer the standard keyboard one?

? I never use the mouse in the graphical installer, it can entirely be
used with the keyboard.

Samuel


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Re: Switching to graphical installer by default?

2013-01-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Bob Proulx (b...@proulx.com):
> Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Also, is there anyone aware of any reasons against switching to
> > graphical installer by default?
> 
> Can I at least say that I don't like the mouse installer and much
> prefer the standard keyboard one?
> 
> I don't have any issues with it.  I just don't like it.


We expect many people to feel the same, indeed. However, we have one
big argument to make graphical installer the default : wider
localization as this is the one that supports more languages.

As of now, users of these languages had to figure out that they need
to choose "Graphical install" from an English-speaking menu to get
their language supported.

On the other hand, we actually expect those people who prefer the
text-based installer to easily find that the only action they have to
do is hitting the "down" key, then "Enter" when the installer boot
menu shows up.



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Re: Switching to graphical installer by default?

2013-01-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Also, is there anyone aware of any reasons against switching to
> graphical installer by default?

Can I at least say that I don't like the mouse installer and much
prefer the standard keyboard one?

I don't have any issues with it.  I just don't like it.

Bob


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Re: Switching to graphical installer by default?

2013-01-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Steve McIntyre (st...@einval.com):

> >Also, is there anyone aware of any reasons against switching to
> >graphical installer by default?
> 
> None here, we could/should have done it a while back IMO.


The only reason I know is that D-I development was really hosed until
you took the release management over, Cyril..:-)

So, +1 from me. We indeed discussed that at DC12 when Joey, Steve and
I had our attention focused on D-Ibut the problems related to
space on CDs took precedence...



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Re: Switching to graphical installer by default?

2013-01-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
KiBi wrote:
>Samuel Thibault  (31/12/2012):
>> Thanks for the summary.  I'll add one: brltty:
>> 
>> - Kill Xorg instead of debconf to switch back installer from g-i to
>>   textmode. Also, sleep instead of busy-waiting for Xorg. Closes: 
>> #696972.
>> 
>> This is not needed for RC1, unless we make the graphical installer the
>> default.
>
>I'm planning to merge that one for rc1.
>
>Also, is there anyone aware of any reasons against switching to
>graphical installer by default?

None here, we could/should have done it a while back IMO.

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Switching to graphical installer by default?

2013-01-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Samuel Thibault  (31/12/2012):
> Thanks for the summary.  I'll add one: brltty:
> 
> - Kill Xorg instead of debconf to switch back installer from g-i to
>   textmode. Also, sleep instead of busy-waiting for Xorg. Closes: #696972.
> 
> This is not needed for RC1, unless we make the graphical installer the
> default.

I'm planning to merge that one for rc1.

Also, is there anyone aware of any reasons against switching to
graphical installer by default?

Mraw,
KiBi.


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