Re: Where is the base tarball?

2001-06-02 Thread Anthony Towns

(Huh. I didn't send this mail? That explains why I don't have a patch yet,
I guess...)

On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 11:20:06PM +, Philip Charles wrote:
  If you aren't able to make a native Hurd installer (no cfdisk, kernel
  can't be booted before the system's installed on the hdd (doesn't fit
  on a floppy?)), then you'll want to use debootstrap to build a chroot
  on a Hurd system, tar that up, and hack boot-floppies to unpack that
  and fiddle around with it instead of calling debootstrap.
 We have no partitioning tools (amongst other things) for the Hurd, so this
 is the way forward in the meantime.  Panic over. 

Please get someone with a Hurd system to work out what packages need to
be in Hurd required/base; and what special casing has to happen. Most of
that can probably be determined from your existing b-f's, I'd guess. Send
a patch :)

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Where is the base tarball?

2001-05-24 Thread Ethan Benson

On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:20:54AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
 
 Nope, you're right.  But there's really no going back now.
 
 Perhaps someone could work through a patch to debootstrap that would
 be able to use a dir with all the packages smooshed flat there?

that won't handle the broken filenames, or the complete
unreasonablness of asking users to sift through /debian/pool/main/*
trying to figure out what they need to download. 

IMO debootstrap needs to support a tarball method where it fetches
debs out of a tarball.  but if not then i guess we will have to accept
that debian can be installed only with direct internet access or via
CDROM.  not via hard disk.  

i would think it should not be hard to modify debootstrap to build a
tarball of the debs it wants in order to make a sortof base2_3.tar
(except containing .debs instead of a root filesystem).  on the other
end of the process it shouldn't be hard for it to use tar to extract
the file it wants instead of wgetting it from http or whatever it
does.  

again ignore me if i am missing something obvious again.  

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Where is the base tarball?

2001-04-27 Thread Attila Nagy

Hello,

I tried to build a Debian woody boot floppy set with the latest code from
CVS and I have a problem.

The is no base*.bin and the base tarball is also missing at the end of the
process. This is the case with the set on the debian mirrors too, so I
wonder what the problem is.

The Debian woody can be installed only from network? :)

Please somebody enlighten me about this, because I want to produce a
bootable *and* installable woody CD set, but without base tarball it is
very hard to do...

ps: please cc me your message on reply, because I am not on the list.

Thanks.

Oh, and there are also some problems with boot-floppies and sid
cooperation. It seems that debiandoc-sgml has some changed syntaxes which
the code can't handle.

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Re: Where is the base tarball?

2001-04-27 Thread Attila Nagy

Hello,

 You can visit http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot-0104/msg00846.html
 to read a message I sent to the list after testing the installation of
 a cd-set with cvs version of boot-floppies.
Great.

BTW, I still don't understand why the woody/main/disks-i386 directory
contains a boot floppy which is unusable.

 What we are doing at our site (ceu.fi.udc.es  gpul.org) is build two
 cd sets, one with the broken floppies and other one with potato
 floppies, so that they can install and then upgrade, like they had
 been doing before, of course we only burn the woody-bootingpotato
 version of the cds to the people, the others... well, some time in the
 future.
What is the ETA for releasing woody? :)

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Re: Where is the base tarball?

2001-04-27 Thread Ethan Benson

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:03:51AM -0600, Matt Kraai wrote:
 
 The woody boot-floppies use debootstrap, which builds the base
 system on the fly from individual packages.  These packages can be
 available locally (via a hard drive, CDROM, etc.) or over the
 network.

wouldn't this be a problem for people who need to download the
packages first and put them on a dos or macos partition for the base
install?  (this will be quite inconvenient now) these OSes have
crippled filesystems which will probably end up destroying some of the
filenames if this is done.  the base.tgz tarball has always nicely
worked around this problem.

of course i may be missing something, feel free to point it out. 

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