Re: debian-installer missing Standards-Version

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 3/23/22 13:32, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 10:46:08AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> Does anyone know whether this is by design or is this an oversight?
> 
> This is by design.  udeb don't follow policy.  So listing a policy
> version is somewhat distracting.

Makes sense! Thank you!

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Re: debian-installer missing Standards-Version

[Bastian Blank]

On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 10:46:08AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Does anyone know whether this is by design or is this an oversight?

This is by design.  udeb don't follow policy.  So listing a policy
version is somewhat distracting.

Bastian

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Re: debian-installer missing Standards-Version

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Hi Cyril!

On 3/23/22 11:03, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> John Paul Adrian Glaubitz  (2022-03-23):
>> I have noticed that several udebs such as partman-ext3 are missing the
>> Standards-Version in their debian/control [1] files.
>>
>> Does anyone know whether this is by design or is this an oversight?
>>
>> I'm asking because lintian is complaining about that when building the
>> package.
> 
> This is #991533. Given the lengthy thread it turned into, I gave up.

Thanks. That answers my question.

>> Also, many of these packages are still stuck with debian/compat
>> version 9. Do we want to upgrade the version to something more recent?
> 
> Maybe. I think I'd like people who would like to look into that to:
>  (1) be cautious, there might be udeb-related regressions or behavorial
>  changes that might not have been caught earlier;
>  (2) maybe plan upgrading all packages, possibly not at once, but over a
>  small-ish time window, so that we don't stay too long with packages
>  with old and new compat levels, especially if it's not just about
>  bumping the compat level.
> 
>> And do we want to switch to the debhelper-compat module?
> 
> No idea at the moment, I'd have to read up some more about that part. If
> that's the recommended way (according to debhelper developers) and if
> that's what people expect these days, sure.

OK. I'll stick to the current versions used in debian-installer and let it
up to the installer team to bump these versions in the partman-hfs
package.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Re: debian-installer missing Standards-Version

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz  (2022-03-23):
> I have noticed that several udebs such as partman-ext3 are missing the
> Standards-Version in their debian/control [1] files.
> 
> Does anyone know whether this is by design or is this an oversight?
> 
> I'm asking because lintian is complaining about that when building the
> package.

This is #991533. Given the lengthy thread it turned into, I gave up.

> Also, many of these packages are still stuck with debian/compat
> version 9. Do we want to upgrade the version to something more recent?

Maybe. I think I'd like people who would like to look into that to:
 (1) be cautious, there might be udeb-related regressions or behavorial
 changes that might not have been caught earlier;
 (2) maybe plan upgrading all packages, possibly not at once, but over a
 small-ish time window, so that we don't stay too long with packages
 with old and new compat levels, especially if it's not just about
 bumping the compat level.

> And do we want to switch to the debhelper-compat module?

No idea at the moment, I'd have to read up some more about that part. If
that's the recommended way (according to debhelper developers) and if
that's what people expect these days, sure.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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debian-installer missing Standards-Version

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

Hello!

I have noticed that several udebs such as partman-ext3 are missing the 
Standards-Version
in their debian/control [1] files.

Does anyone know whether this is by design or is this an oversight?

I'm asking because lintian is complaining about that when building the package.

Also, many of these packages are still stuck with debian/compat version 9. Do 
we want to upgrade
the version to something more recent? And do we want to switch to the 
debhelper-compat module?

Thanks,
Adrian

> [1] 
> https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-ext3/-/blob/master/debian/control

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