Re: powerpc dailies back
2009/4/26 Rogério Brito : > I am interested to know what is needed to contribute with the ppc side > of things in Debian. I care about the oldworld machines (at least, as > long as mine works). If you care about oldworld, I'd check if .29 works on them, and fix it if it doesn't. Otherwise, I would be personally against keeping miboot/oldworld support (especially considering its non-freedom :) -- Regards, Wartan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: powerpc dailies back
Hi, all.
On Apr 20 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 20 April 2009, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > In setting up everything on the powerbook, I did not trouble myself
> > to re-enable the miboot builds anymore, since I understand they've
> > been long broken and nobody is working on them;
>
> Agreed.
I am interested to know what is needed to contribute with the ppc side
of things in Debian. I care about the oldworld machines (at least, as
long as mine works).
> > and, also, since I can't seem to find the miboot package anymore
> > that's needed to do this (I believe Sven Luther used to maintain
> > them, but, well).
>
> I "rescued" it from his $HOME on p.d.o:
> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/pub/miboot/
I just did a facelift of the package and I think that it could enter
non-free, perhaps. Here are my modifications:
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Format: 1.8
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:37:43 -0300
Source: miboot
Binary: miboot
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.0d4-2.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jeremie Koenig
Changed-By: Rogério Brito
Description:
miboot - Linux bootloader for OldWorld PowerMac computers
Changes:
miboot (1.0d4-2.1) unstable; urgency=low
.
* Non-maintainer upload.
* The "don't let miboot die" release.
* debian/compat: create it with a 5.
* debian/watch: create watchfile for BenH's page.
* debian/copyright:
+ include copyright notice.
+ include notice that packages in non-free are not part of Debian.
+ include information where GPL-2 can be found on Debian systems.
* debian/control:
+ include debhelper on build-deps.
+ include homepage field.
+ change section to non-free/admin.
* debian/rules:
+ include call to dh_md5sums.
+ include mandatory binary-arch target.
Checksums-Sha1:
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7f45256ea86463de42a3723226cf8713b35fe416 32586 miboot_1.0d4-2.1_all.deb
Checksums-Sha256:
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miboot_1.0d4-2.1.dsc
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miboot_1.0d4-2.1_all.deb
Files:
334783f9515cfe8dfd54137f0ccc3be6 750 non-free/admin optional
miboot_1.0d4-2.1.dsc
0408e04e9a9ba761c2b43a4cd57e15f5 4596 non-free/admin optional
miboot_1.0d4-2.1.diff.gz
e2121c65a56e1008f51cce9f1b34d1c1 32586 non-free/admin optional
miboot_1.0d4-2.1_all.deb
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Thanks, Rogério Brito.
P.S.: Please, CC'me, as I am not subscribed to this list (this is also
the reason why I am CC'ing Frans---so that the message doesn't get
lost).
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Re: powerpc dailies back
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 02:38:39PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Hello Luk and Wouter, >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Luk Claes wrote: >> [...] >>> I've prepared powerpc dailies on one of the buildds, so please tell me if I >>> should update the repositories or if you want to keep providing the dailies >>> yourself for now. > > Where exactly are they set up? on praetorius. >>> The plan is to build all dailies on the buildds and have them all end up on >>> d-i.debian.org eventually... >> I prefer it those are done on buildd machines; it also allows Wouter to use >> the machine for ppc hacking and test of the installer. >> >> Any objection to it Wouter? > > Eh, not at all. Since I'm part of the powerpc buildd team, I could even > keep an eye on it myself. Right, though note that I see the current way the setup on the buildds is done for building the dailies is a temporary solution. The main reason being that concurrent building with regular builds on the buildd might cause some problems. Building it on the buildd is the right thing to do though as building it on less trusted machines is not what we want IMHO. Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: powerpc dailies back
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 02:38:39PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Hello Luk and Wouter, > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Luk Claes wrote: > [...] > > I've prepared powerpc dailies on one of the buildds, so please tell me if I > > should update the repositories or if you want to keep providing the dailies > > yourself for now. Where exactly are they set up? > > The plan is to build all dailies on the buildds and have them all end up on > > d-i.debian.org eventually... > > I prefer it those are done on buildd machines; it also allows Wouter to use > the machine for ppc hacking and test of the installer. > > Any objection to it Wouter? Eh, not at all. Since I'm part of the powerpc buildd team, I could even keep an eye on it myself. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is trying to fool the system. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/biometrics.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: powerpc dailies back
Hello Luk and Wouter, On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Luk Claes wrote: [...] > I've prepared powerpc dailies on one of the buildds, so please tell me if I > should update the repositories or if you want to keep providing the dailies > yourself for now. > > The plan is to build all dailies on the buildds and have them all end up on > d-i.debian.org eventually... I prefer it those are done on buildd machines; it also allows Wouter to use the machine for ppc hacking and test of the installer. Any objection to it Wouter? -- Otavio Salvador O.S. Systems E-mail: ota...@ossystems.com.br http://www.ossystems.com.br Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854 http://projetos.ossystems.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: powerpc dailies back
Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, As you may know, I stopped the powerpc dailies about a month ago, due to the fact that the machine on which they were running was a PowerMac 8500, an oldworld machine, that is no longer supported by recent kernels; the kernel that it does run is now too old for the libc in squeeze. They now run on my old laptop (an apple powerbook G4, presumably that'll be supported for quite a while to come) and will in time be migrated to a PegasosII system that is with Martin Michlmayr currently but which should make it over here. As long as that migration hasn't happened, there might be intermittent cases where the powerbook doesn't manage to do the daily build on one or another day, since it's not really 'hosted' ATM. This is a temporary arrangement, anyway. If this happens more than one or two days in a row, that means it's gone offline and I haven't noticed; feel free to gently nudge me in that case. As I type this, the first of the dailies built on country (my old laptop) is being uploaded to people.debian.org I've prepared powerpc dailies on one of the buildds, so please tell me if I should update the repositories or if you want to keep providing the dailies yourself for now. The plan is to build all dailies on the buildds and have them all end up on d-i.debian.org eventually... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: powerpc dailies back
On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: As I type this, the first of the dailies built on country (my old laptop) is being uploaded to people.debian.org Cool! Thanks for the good work. Can I assume that the following will soon be repaired if I'm patient? namely, that the iso's in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ all date from Fri Jan 23 03:30:35 UTC 2009. Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: powerpc dailies back
On 13:50 Mon 20 Apr , Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi, > > As you may know, I stopped the powerpc dailies about a month ago, due to > the fact that the machine on which they were running was a PowerMac > 8500, an oldworld machine, that is no longer supported by recent > kernels; the kernel that it does run is now too old for the libc in > squeeze. > > They now run on my old laptop (an apple powerbook G4, presumably that'll > be supported for quite a while to come) and will in time be migrated to > a PegasosII system that is with Martin Michlmayr currently but which > should make it over here. As long as that migration hasn't happened, > there might be intermittent cases where the powerbook doesn't manage to > do the daily build on one or another day, since it's not really 'hosted' > ATM. This is a temporary arrangement, anyway. If this happens more than > one or two days in a row, that means it's gone offline and I haven't > noticed; feel free to gently nudge me in that case. > > As I type this, the first of the dailies built on country (my old > laptop) is being uploaded to people.debian.org > > In setting up everything on the powerbook, I did not trouble myself to > re-enable the miboot builds anymore, since I understand they've been > long broken and nobody is working on them; and, also, since I can't seem > to find the miboot package anymore that's needed to do this (I believe > Sven Luther used to maintain them, but, well). Besides, it seems silly > to provide installation media for hardware on which no recent kernel > will boot. If you are interested, Sven propose to do builds on his XServe dual G5, or even on a powerstation (quad core G5) if the d-i team agreed and want him for this part... Greetings, -- ,''`. Xavier Oswald : :' : GNU/LINUX Debian Maintainer `. `' GnuPG Key ID 0x88BBB51E `-938D D715 6915 8860 9679 4A0C A430 C6AA 88BB B51E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: powerpc dailies back
Hi, On Montag, 20. April 2009, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > In setting up everything on the powerbook, I did not trouble myself to > re-enable the miboot builds anymore, since I understand they've been > long broken and nobody is working on them; and, also, since I can't seem > to find the miboot package anymore that's needed to do this (I believe > Sven Luther used to maintain them, but, well). Besides, it seems silly > to provide installation media for hardware on which no recent kernel > will boot. Yes, I suggest to drop miboot, if newer kernels dont work on oldworld anymore. Also, miboot was never part of Debian as it needs a nonfree toolchain to build. (IIRC) regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: powerpc dailies back
On Monday 20 April 2009, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > In setting up everything on the powerbook, I did not trouble myself to > re-enable the miboot builds anymore, since I understand they've been > long broken and nobody is working on them; Agreed. > and, also, since I can't > seem to find the miboot package anymore that's needed to do this (I > believe Sven Luther used to maintain them, but, well). I "rescued" it from his $HOME on p.d.o: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/pub/miboot/ It's still probably also available on gluck (the old p.d.o). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
powerpc dailies back
Hi, As you may know, I stopped the powerpc dailies about a month ago, due to the fact that the machine on which they were running was a PowerMac 8500, an oldworld machine, that is no longer supported by recent kernels; the kernel that it does run is now too old for the libc in squeeze. They now run on my old laptop (an apple powerbook G4, presumably that'll be supported for quite a while to come) and will in time be migrated to a PegasosII system that is with Martin Michlmayr currently but which should make it over here. As long as that migration hasn't happened, there might be intermittent cases where the powerbook doesn't manage to do the daily build on one or another day, since it's not really 'hosted' ATM. This is a temporary arrangement, anyway. If this happens more than one or two days in a row, that means it's gone offline and I haven't noticed; feel free to gently nudge me in that case. As I type this, the first of the dailies built on country (my old laptop) is being uploaded to people.debian.org In setting up everything on the powerbook, I did not trouble myself to re-enable the miboot builds anymore, since I understand they've been long broken and nobody is working on them; and, also, since I can't seem to find the miboot package anymore that's needed to do this (I believe Sven Luther used to maintain them, but, well). Besides, it seems silly to provide installation media for hardware on which no recent kernel will boot. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is trying to fool the system. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/biometrics.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
