Re: Bug#399608: fixed in sysvinit 2.88dsf-59.1

2015-05-18 Thread Michael Cree
[I've trimmed the CCes a bit.]

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 07:52:12PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
 On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Andreas Henriksson andr...@fatal.se wrote:
  Hello Adrian!
 
  Thanks for raising awareness about this issue. If there's anything
  I can do to help please tell me. That the new util-linux version hasn't
  been built yet sounds like it can't be avoided as it was just uploaded
  and unfortunately the sysvinit and util-linux update is a lockstep
  upgrade where both change at the same time as things are moved between
  the packages. There's no intermediate step possible, because the
  moved binaries always needs to be available at all times and thus
  have tight dependencies in both directions. Not sure how dependencies
  affects the build of these packages though They should both be
  able to build on systems with older versions of the packages installed
  and build independently.
 
  that sounds like the kind of thing that would cause nightmare
 circular build dependencies for anyone porting to a new architecture
 [which i'm considering doing: mvp from icubecorp].
 
  would that be correct - that if there *is* no older version it
 would now be impossible to build both [or either] of the packages - or
 am i mistaken?

It's not normally that bad.  Old packages exist in snapshot.d.o.  In
the case of util-linux that the original poster talks about, the old
version of util-linux is still in the chroots of the buildd, its just
that wanna-build no longer knows about that version so does not offer
util-linux for building, so one has to manually schedule a build and
binary upload.

The situation is different for boot strapping a new architecture.
There are quite a number of circular build-dependencies and one breaks
the circle with a variety of techniques, one of which is cross-building.

Cheers
Michael.


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Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing (Status update)

2013-09-20 Thread Michael Cree
FWIW, I am a porter of the Alpha architecture in the following ways:

 - run a buildd
 - kernel support
 - work with upstreams for toolchain support
 - general porting work including filing bugs and patches

I doubt if I will continue that for the life cycle of Jessie given that
many of the former faithful seem to be deserting alpha and I don't fancy
being the last one left to turn off the lights.

But possibly of interest is that I seem to be finding myself using arm
based hardware more and more and I anticipate that I might soon be doing
arm porting work.  Whether that is for all or just a subset of arm ports
is yet to be seen.

I am subscribed to the debian-alpha and debian-arm mail lists.

I am not a DD.

Cheers
Michael.


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