Re: unbreaking LibreOffices tests on at least release architectures

2023-06-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 10:32:55AM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Am 18.06.23 um 10:19 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:
>> On Sun, 2023-06-18 at 09:31 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
>> > Also note I am not talking about the debian-ports architectures. Those I
>> > forgot and I have no problems making them stay into "testsuite ran but
>> > results ignored" set.
>> Why did you send this mail exclusively to debian-ports then?
>
>I (obviously) wrongly assumed  that this was the magic address which
>duplicates to every port.
>
>Must have misremembered.

It still does - I got this copy via the debian-arm list...

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Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 01:55:08PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
>John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> Thus, I was wondering whether any volunteers would be willing to help 
>> building
>> ISO images for the various architectures.
>
>I'm already doing this for kfreebsd-amd64, but only the jessie-kfreebsd
>suite:
>http://jenkins.kfreebsd.eu/jenkins/view/cd/job/debian-cd_jessie-kfreebsd/lastBuild/console
>and I had to patch debian-cd before it worked.  (Didn't yet find time to
>file bugs or submit those patches).

Please post them!

>I could probably set up similar jobs for kfreebsd-* sid now.
>
>> It's not necessary to run debian-cd on the same architecture as the
>> target architecture of the ISO images.

Exactly. There are sometimes difficulties with the tools needed to set
up boot files etc., but they tend to be portable.

>I did not even realise that.  So I will add kfreebsd-i386 next.
>
>I expect there might be problems trying to build linux arches from a
>kfreebsd host.  But we should try to find out, and then maybe fix it.

We were happily building kfreebsd-* images from a Linux host, so I'd
expect it to work OK.

I've offered before: I don't have the time personally to work on
building ports images, but I'm more than happy to help other people
getting them building on our official infrastructure...

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[codeh...@debian.org: Bug#828854: RM: debian-installer [kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386] -- RoQA; Fails to build on kfreebsd]

2016-06-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hey -bsd guys,

FYI - we were discussing d-i bugs today and it looks like there's a
huge number of bugs that aren't clearing properly in the BTS. This
looks like it's caused by old versions of the -kfreebsd installer
binaries hanging around in unstable, so we're proposing to remove
them. We're *fairly* sure this shouldn't cause problems for you as
these binaries are ancient - please confirm!

Cheers,

Steve & Neil

- Forwarded message from Neil Williams <codeh...@debian.org> -

From: Neil Williams <codeh...@debian.org>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:15:03 +0200
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <sub...@bugs.debian.org>

Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal

kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 have outdated builds of debian-installer
(20150422) and newer versions containing bug fixes no longer build.

Please remove debian-installer on kfreebsd from unstable until the
current version can build.

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Re: Time to change the debian-ports list?

2015-07-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 05:38:17PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 01:40:20PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:51:29PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:01:00PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 Alexander Wirt dixit:
 
 Could you please (technically) summarize what needs to be done from
 listmaster side? 
 
 1. Remove whatever debian-po...@lists.debian.org is right now
 
 2. Create a new debian-po...@lists.debian.org mailing list which
works just like the other regular lists
 
 3. Announce the new debian-po...@lists.debian.org so that people
can subscribe to it; document that there is no longer
an address to reach *all* ports but that people should
eMail the individual ports’ lists (and cross-post if
needed, but only to the amount needed), and that the
new debian-po...@lists.debian.org instead is a mailing list for
discussion about
a) debian-ports.org infrastructure
b) porting Debian in general
c) questions related to setting up a Debian port,
   including wanna-build, buildd, etc.

That seems like a bad idea to me, tbh. There will be people who won't
notice that the meaning of debian-ports@ has changed, and who will try
to use it with its old meaning.

If there are problems with the current meaning of debian-ports, can't we
just retire the old alias and create a list under a different name?

Is there much point to that? I've not heard anybody at all speak up in
favour of the existing behaviour. If anybody does use try to use it
that way in future, the new list will most likely be the best place
for their mail to go...

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Re: Time to change the debian-ports list?

2015-07-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:51:29PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:01:00PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Alexander Wirt dixit:

Could you please (technically) summarize what needs to be done from
listmaster side? 

1. Remove whatever debian-po...@lists.debian.org is right now

2. Create a new debian-po...@lists.debian.org mailing list which
   works just like the other regular lists

3. Announce the new debian-po...@lists.debian.org so that people
   can subscribe to it; document that there is no longer
   an address to reach *all* ports but that people should
   eMail the individual ports’ lists (and cross-post if
   needed, but only to the amount needed), and that the
   new debian-po...@lists.debian.org instead is a mailing list for
   discussion about
   a) debian-ports.org infrastructure
   b) porting Debian in general
   c) questions related to setting up a Debian port,
  including wanna-build, buildd, etc.

That's exactly it, yes. Thanks. :-)

Hi Alexander et al,,

Could we make a start on this please? More discussions on the d-ports
expander today have reminded me how annoying the current setup is.

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Ports pages need updating on www.d.o

2015-04-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi folks,

I've been trying to help out a bit with the port pages (under
https://www.debian.org/ports/), starting with the ARM ports. We could
really do with updating a lot of the information here - it's so old
it's starting to smell bad!

I've removed some of the older details (e.g. hardware support) that
used to be under https://www.debian.org/ports/arm and replaced them
with pointers to the wiki now. My reasoning here is that the wiki is
more easily updated for more dynamic content like this, plus it's much
easier for the wider community to contribute that way. I'd suggest
that most of the other port pages would be better organised like this
too, but that's a decision for porters to make for themselves.

We also need to work on some of the other content around here. For
example, the top-level ports page is still listing the ports from
Wheezy rather than Jessie. Please take a look.

In the webwml source, there's even a file to list maintainers for the
various port pages. Until I touched it today, it hadn't been modified
since 2005. It's clearly not very useful at the moment!

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Re: kFreeBSD CD/DVD builds for Jessie

2015-04-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:24:14PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
Hi Steve,

Steve McIntyre wrote:
 I know that the kFreeBSD ports are not being officially released
 [1]. What plans (if any) have been made for any *un*official releases?
 I've just removed the BSD builds from the debian-cd architecture lists
 in preparation for next weekend, but I've not heard anything more...

kfreebsd as a whole, I feel has been in a releaseable state for some
months (massive improvement over wheezy, and no bugs that are absolutely
RC).  I'd still like to make a stable release out of it.

But since we need to move it to a jessie-kfreebsd suite first, I think
we are behind schedule with that.  I'm not familiar in that area, but
Christoph was speaking with ftpmaster about it.

I expect it will require changes in debian-installer (for new repository
URLs), and there are other d-i issues I'd quite like to patch if
possible, and lots of testing I wanted to do (incl. of CD images).
Given how busy I am at the  moment, I couldn't do that in time for the
official release.

Would it be reasonable and practical - even preferable - to postpone
release of kfreebsd until at least 1-2 weeks after the official release?

No problem - I was just worried that we'd not heard any public plans
yet. It'll take a bit of prep work for me to get things ready for a
separate release build for CDs, so I was wondering if that would be
needed. Please keep us updated on plans, and let's see what we can do.

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kFreeBSD CD/DVD builds for Jessie

2015-04-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi folks,

I know that the kFreeBSD ports are not being officially released
[1]. What plans (if any) have been made for any *un*official releases?
I've just removed the BSD builds from the debian-cd architecture lists
in preparation for next weekend, but I've not heard anything more...

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg5.html

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Re: Time to change the debian-ports list?

2014-09-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:01:00PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Alexander Wirt dixit:

Could you please (technically) summarize what needs to be done from
listmaster side? 

1. Remove whatever debian-po...@lists.debian.org is right now

2. Create a new debian-po...@lists.debian.org mailing list which
   works just like the other regular lists

3. Announce the new debian-po...@lists.debian.org so that people
   can subscribe to it; document that there is no longer
   an address to reach *all* ports but that people should
   eMail the individual ports’ lists (and cross-post if
   needed, but only to the amount needed), and that the
   new debian-po...@lists.debian.org instead is a mailing list for
   discussion about
   a) debian-ports.org infrastructure
   b) porting Debian in general
   c) questions related to setting up a Debian port,
  including wanna-build, buildd, etc.

That's exactly it, yes. Thanks. :-)

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Re: (Almost) Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:18:14AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

[ And -cd@ so that the team knows a release is planned “soon”, in case
some patches are in the works. ]

ACK. I still want to get some stuff done on the EFI front, but my
stack is a bajillion deep at the moment... :-(

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Re: Time to change the debian-ports list?

2014-09-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 06:39:10PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Hi folks,

I believe the existing debian-ports setup (as an exploder pointing to
all the different port lists) is not working well at all. It's a
confusing setup to many people, which leads to lots of cross-list
noise that's probably not warranted. Some of the traffic is also
clearly meant to be discussing the debian-ports setup itself rather
than individual ports, and that's also off-topic for those ports that
are in the main archive. So, I propose:

 * Remove the confusion: turn debian-ports into a separate *normal*
   mailing list, announce it and let people subscribe to it as they
   see fit normally. This would be specifically for discussions about
   ports.debian.org and architectures hosted there.

 * Explicitly do *not* add another exploder to replace the old
   address: instead, *if* we want something to cover this use case,
   add a new list that interested people can subscribe to. Maybe
   debian-cross-ports or debian-architectures or something. Please
   feel free to suggest a better name! If such a list were to be set
   up, we could/should encourage existing architecture porters to sign
   up there too.

Thoughts?

Any dissenting opinions?

Listmasters - are you happy to change things like I propose?

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Time to change the debian-ports list?

2014-09-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi folks,

I believe the existing debian-ports setup (as an exploder pointing to
all the different port lists) is not working well at all. It's a
confusing setup to many people, which leads to lots of cross-list
noise that's probably not warranted. Some of the traffic is also
clearly meant to be discussing the debian-ports setup itself rather
than individual ports, and that's also off-topic for those ports that
are in the main archive. So, I propose:

 * Remove the confusion: turn debian-ports into a separate *normal*
   mailing list, announce it and let people subscribe to it as they
   see fit normally. This would be specifically for discussions about
   ports.debian.org and architectures hosted there.

 * Explicitly do *not* add another exploder to replace the old
   address: instead, *if* we want something to cover this use case,
   add a new list that interested people can subscribe to. Maybe
   debian-cross-ports or debian-architectures or something. Please
   feel free to suggest a better name! If such a list were to be set
   up, we could/should encourage existing architecture porters to sign
   up there too.

Thoughts?

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Re: removing kfreebsd-9 from D-I (Re: Bug#743292: dhclient fails during installation with weekly iso (freebsd-amd64))

2014-05-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:52:48PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
On 04/05/14 13:22, Robert Millan wrote:
On 04/05/14 12:54, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
If noone can provide a better solution, I'd like to remove kfreebsd-9
from the D-I builds.

Feel free to do so. Just try to make sure the boot menus are properly
updated. ;)

It'd need a small fix. Can you check it in? I don't have write perms
in debian-cd.

Anyone? kfreebsd-9 really ought to be removed from D-I. It produces
dhclient failure for new installs.

Apologies for the delay. I've re-based your patch to current head (it
was against the last svn version AFAICS, we've since moved to git) and
pushed it. I'll happily add you to the committers list for debian-cd
for future access if you want - just ask.

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Re: Results of the porter roll call (Was: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing)

2013-10-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:07:25PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
+++ Niels Thykier [2013-10-02 09:45 +0200]:
 Hi,
 
 The final results are in:
 
 Summary table:
 Arch   || DDs || NMs/DMs || Other || Total
 ---++-++-++---++--
 armel  ||  3  ||   0 || 1 ||4
 armhf  ||  3  ||   1 || 2 ||6

 armel: Wookey (DD), Gatis Visnevskis (!DD), Nobuhiro Iwamatsu (DD), Steve 
 McIntyre (DD)
 armhf: Jeremiah Foster (!DD, but NM?), Wookey (DD), Justus Winter (!DD), 
 Lennart Sorensen (!DD), Nobuhiro Iwamatsu (DD), Steve McIntyre (DD)

I am surprised not to see Riku Voipio and Hector Oron on this list as
I know they help manage the buildds and Riku signs uploads. I don't
know if they are trying to escape, or just being too slack to send
mail :-)

   arm64: Wookey (DD), Steve McInture (DD)

There are other DDs working on this too (Doko and Riku
particularly), but again they are probably trying to avoid getting
any more formal responsibilities. :-)

*grin* I guess so...

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Re: broken kfreebsd cdimage building

2013-09-30 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:07:46PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Robert Millan r...@debian.org (2013-09-28):
 Here, attached patch should get jessie builds working again. Would you
 be kind enough to commit it?

Steve (from debian-cd@) is likely the one who's going to check it. I
wonder, however, if the -boot/-cd changes are actually correct.

When removing kfreebsd 8 support, supported cdrom settings went from
kfreebsd + kfreebsd-9 to kfreebsd-9 only; when adding kfreebsd-10
support, the cdrom settings weren't added kfreebsd-10, and the patch
below isn't adding it either (so the build should be OK since that part
would be missing from the d-i build).

Is that expected though? No kfreebsd-10 in there?

I've taken the patch as-is for now. Robert / BSD folks - please keep
us updated when kernels etc. change so that we can keep on top of
those changes for CD builds.

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Help with Wheezy CD testing on Saturday

2013-05-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi folks,

As we're expecting to release this Saturday (4th May) and I'm going to
be preparing the CDs and DVDs to go with the release, it would be
lovely if we have some volunteers to help test the images. We have
been doing testing of the daily, weekly and Release Candidate images
as they're produced, but it would be nice to get more coverage in the
testing, especially:

 * non-PC architectures
 * more obscure combinations of options like partitioning, filesystems
   etc.
 * different desktops with differing package sets

I've started a wiki page at 

  https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianCD/ReleaseTesting/Wheezy

and I'll be filling in more details there in the next couple of days,
including some specific configurations that I'd like to see tested. If
you can help us test on Saturday, please take a look and join me in
#debian-cd where we'll be coordinating.

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Re: Gnome installability vs. GNU/kFreeBSD

2013-04-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 06:29:23PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
Hi,

On 09/04/13 13:45, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  1. I thought both the addition of iw and network-manager-gnome as
 Depends or Recommends in tasksel was depending on that arch: all
 vs. arch: any discussion.

As long as they are lowered to Recommends, it shouldn't matter any more
if they are uninstallable on a particular arch?

A consequence of Depends was that they would have been prioritised for
GNOME CD1.  If we can't do it that way, we may be able to accomplish
this using debian-cd's scripts such as tasks/wheezy/Debian-gnome or forcd1.

Correct, that's my plan for now.

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Re: Bug#677861: lftp: FTBFS[kfreebsd-i386]: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef __int32_t gl_intptr_t'

2012-10-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:00:55PM +0200, Noël Köthe wrote:
forwarded 677861 
http://univ.uniyar.ac.ru/pipermail/lftp-devel/2012-July/28.html
thanks

Hello Jakub,

Am Samstag, den 11.08.2012, 14:04 +0200 schrieb Jakub Wilk:

 Thanks for the report and the comment. I forwarded it to the upstream 
 mailinglist.
 
 N.b. I can't find your e-mail in the lftp-devel archives.

yes, you were right. I asked Alexander the upstream author about and the
mail was in the mailman queue. It was now approved and it is available
in the mailinglist archive (see URL above). He will look at the problem.

Thanks for the hint.

Hi Noël,

Do you have any plan for getting this fixed so that we can ship lftp
with Wheezy? I can see that you've uploaded a new upstream version
since this was reported (and 4.3.8-1 looks to build OK on a test
machine for me), but the changes for from 4.3.6-1 (in current testing)
to 4.3.8-1 (current unstable) are *huge*, way too big for the release
team to accept them in my experience.

I would expect that a focussed TPU upload with just the changes needed
to fix kfreebsd building is much more likely to make it into wheezy.

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Re: missing kfreebsd-i386 in daily-builds/sid_d-i

2011-12-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 02:39:34PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
Hi,

It seems kfreebsd-i386 builds aren't included in:

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/current/

which is quite strange because kfreebsd-amd64 is present.

They've been failing for a few days, it seems. Ah, I see - an error in
the filesystem layout.

The log aborts with:

cp: cannot stat 
`/org/cdbuilder.debian.org/src/deb-cd/d-i/d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-i386/daily//cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz':
 No such file or directory

but looking at the filesystem, I see:

debian-cd@pettersson:~$ ls -al 
/org/cdbuilder.debian.org/src/deb-cd/d-i/d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-i386/daily/cdrom/
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 3 93sam Debian  18 Dec  8 00:32 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 93sam debian-cd 4096 Dec  8 00:32 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 93sam Debian  88 Dec  8 00:32 cdrom

There's an extra /cdrom/ directory that's crept in there. The files are in

/org/cdbuilder.debian.org/src/deb-cd/d-i/d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-i386/daily/cdrom/cdrom/

instead.

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Re: missing kfreebsd-i386 in daily-builds/sid_d-i

2011-12-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 04:50:40PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
2011/12/8 Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com:
 There's an extra /cdrom/ directory that's crept in there. The files are in

 /org/cdbuilder.debian.org/src/deb-cd/d-i/d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-i386/daily/cdrom/cdrom/

 instead.

Ah, this must be from a bug in D-I which generated this extra cdrom/
dir.  I fixed it a few days ago:

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/debian-installer.git;a=commitdiff;h=822214d09339bc0f7af08a8955fdda9944683ae0

I assume no other action is needed to fix this in debian-cd?  (e.g.
manually removing stale cdrom dir)

debian-cd won't care, so I would hope things will just fix
themselves. It looks like the files in the wrong dir were created this
morning, so I'd double-check that your fix is working...

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Re: Bug#636668: kfreebsd-amd64: various failures

2011-08-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 02:09:38PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Samuel Thibault, le Fri 05 Aug 2011 02:14:01 +0200, a écrit :
 - The boot loader step failed at first. console 4 was complaining that
   /boot/zfs wasn't existing.
 - However, /usr and /var were not mounted.

Actually, these two are probably simply a consequence of this

 - The zfsutils package is not installed (though I do remember having
   seen in the log that partman scheduled its installation, but
   apparently the .deb is not on the netinst CD)

which itself is a consequence of this

 - The Broadcom 14e4:164c card is not recognized, because the bce driver
   is disabled due to firmware blob. Since this was a netinst, I

So a proper-enough fix would be to make sure that zfsutils are on the
netinst CD which, AIUI, is supposed to contain enough packages to
install a working base system. debian-cd maintainers, do you agree?

Sure, makes sense. Committed on trunk just now. Do we want that change
backported for future Squeeze builds?

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Re: Bug#636668: kfreebsd-amd64: various failures

2011-08-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 02:54:20PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Steve McIntyre, le Fri 05 Aug 2011 13:43:32 +0100, a écrit :
 So a proper-enough fix would be to make sure that zfsutils are on the
 netinst CD which, AIUI, is supposed to contain enough packages to
 install a working base system. debian-cd maintainers, do you agree?
 
 Sure, makes sense. Committed on trunk just now. Do we want that change
 backported for future Squeeze builds?

I believe we do. The installed system is really completely usuable
otherwise (I was already lucky that nano is in /bin...)

OK, done.

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Re: bsd make

2004-08-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Sorry for the delay... ]

On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 04:44:16AM -0700, Cherry George Mathew wrote:
--- Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

 What's the problem you're seeing?

Make tree which compiles on FreeBSD doesn't compile on
debian... No I'm not insane, it compiled after I
ported freebsd's make to debian. Would you like to
have a look at the port ? Would it be of use ? How can
I make it usefull to others ? Its been debianized.

That might be useful, yes. I'm copying the debian-bsd list on this
too; more people there might be interested in what you have. There was
some discussion a while back about re-merging some of the different
BSD make implementations, but I've heard nothing in a while.

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