Bug#408930:

2007-04-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
As I have pointed out before, the Scid produced by Pascale Georges
(which he originally called scid-pg) is in breach of the GPL. That seems
quite important to me, but obviously not you. 






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Bug#408930: Commnet on chessdb / scid / scid-pg

2007-04-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby

I see your comment at:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=408930

and thought I would like to take the opportunity to explain the situation.

1) I started ChessDB before Pascal Georges started scid-pg, which he 
later renamed to scid.


2) A lot of code from chessdb was taken and put into scid-pg, but *not* 
acknowledged at all. I have posted a short list on a chess mailing list. 
Several others have looked at this, and have commented that it is correct.


There are some tell-tale signs, like spelling errors that appeared in 
chessdb, which later appeared in scid-pg, which the author claimed was 
not taken from chessdb.


I have posted a partial list at:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.games.chess.computer/browse_frm/thread/658a58d9a17b9aaf/dcb9e3c5e4e7266a?lnk=stq=scid+releasedrnum=1hl=en#dcb9e3c5e4e7266a

3) I changed the name of the executable from scid to chessdb, as I felt 
this was only fair to Shane Hudson. It was not because I wanted to steal 
his code, in fact quite the opposite. As several people have pointed out 
on the scid mailing list, changing the name was sensible.


I point you to something written by someone on the scid mailing list:

http://www.mail-archive.com/scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00029.html

 I believe Dr. Kirby has been nothing but gracious and respectful
 of Shane's work.

 Read this from the opening screen of ChessDB:

   ChessDB is based on Scid -  http://scid.sourceforge.net/
   but has new features, enhancements and bug-fixes.
   More than 90% of ChessDB's code comes from Scid.
   The main author of Scid was Shane Hudson.
   Shane is NOT responsible for any bugs in ChessDB


 Note the *last* line.  *That* is the kindest gift we can
 give to Shane; acknowledge his work, but pin none of our
 faults on him.  Similarly, changing the notices from scid to ChessDB
 is a courtesy not an insult.

 Cheers,

 Jeremy


4) Others have objected to the use of the name 'scid' whilst Pascal 
Georges changed the direction of the program, well away from the 
original authors direction.


5) I believe not only is taking of code from chessdb without 
acknowledgment is a breach of the GPL, but also the fact he has denied 
me the right to use any code based on his 'scid' - see:



http://www.mail-archive.com/scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00045.html


where he says As chessDB is a fork of Scid (2004), and until anybody 
else is better placed than me to continue Scid, I request things to be 
strictly separated : given Kirkby's attitude, I hope he'll be honest 
enough to continue his fork in a strict separated way than mine : I deny 
him the right to use my own code, as I'll never use his own code


(Of course the fact he has taken code from chessdb, without 
acknowledgment, is a different matter).



I don't deny he has made useful changes to scid, but he has done so in a 
way I that is against the GPL and against the spirit of free software.



I leave others to make up their own minds.

Dr. David Kirkby


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Bug#408118:

2007-04-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Let me know when it is available as a debian package. I know Christian
Pinedo Zamalloa (zako) made it some time back. 

Dr. David Kirkby



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Bug#408118: ChessDB - free chess database

2007-02-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby

I'm maintaining ChessDB

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/

but don't have a Debian system here, so are unable to do any testing. 
Someone sent me a binary for Debian, which I put on the Sourceforge site:


http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=184864use_mirror=puzzlefilename=chessdb_3.6.7-1_i386.deb85831364

but that is for an older release.

I understand the name proposed by 'zako' is too long. Can I suggest:

ChessDB - A multi-platform chess database

Note the mix of upper and lower case in ChessDB. I've no idea of your 
conventions for Debian, so I'm sure if you want a unix name 'chessdb' 
would be appropriate.


Sorry I can't be or more assistance.





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