Bug#343695: [cl-debian] Bug#343695: gcl: [INTL:sv] Swedish debconf templates translation

2005-12-17 Thread Martin Rydstr|m
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 11:43:59AM +0100, Daniel Nylander wrote:
> Package: gcl
> Version: 2.6.7-12
> Severity: wishlist
> Tags: patch l10n
> 
> 
> Here is an update of the debconf template for gcl.
> 
> Regards,
> Daniel

I just happened to see this. It's a truly horrible translation with
/negative/ added value. It seems to be written with no understanding
at all about CL in general or GCL in particular, nor the terms used.

It's also ungrammatical and un-idiomatic Swedish all over.

',mr

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Bug#326598: [cl-debian] Bug#326598: cmucl-source: suggests libc5-dependent package

2005-09-05 Thread Martin Rydstr|m
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:21:48PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Peter Van Eynde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sunday 04 September 2005 16:11, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >> Martin Rydstr|m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 12:38:59PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >> > It parses /etc/termcap directly itself. 
> 
> >> The /etc/termcap in termcap-compat is well outdated.
> >>
> >> You can create one yourself using 'tic -C', from what I have read
> >> (ncurses-bin and ncurses-base).  I tried this with 'misc/terminfo.src'
> >> from the ncurses source package, and it appeared to work correctly.
> >
> > I think it will be easiest to just remove terminal hemlock from the
> > package, I have not seen anyone using it in the last few years. Any
> > objections?

I use it, but you've never seen me. ;)

No matter; I'm fairly certain I can live with fixing up stuff so I
can still use it. I think it's not a great solution to remove a feature
just because people don't want /etc/termcap around, but I guess that
is the way it works.

(I don't know what you mean by "remove terminal hemlock", but
disabling stuff just because there is no /etc/termcap in Debian would,
I think, be a bit unnecessary; it does, after all, check $TERMCAP
before it checks for /etc/termcap. I, personally, would probably just
get a /etc/termcap from somewhere. On the other hand, I can also live
without using packaged CMUCL.)

'mr

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Bug#326598: [cl-debian] Bug#326598: cmucl-source: suggests libc5-dependent package

2005-09-04 Thread Martin Rydstr|m
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 12:38:59PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Martin Rydstr|m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 11:08:36AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >> Package: cmucl-source
> >> Severity: normal
> >> 
> >> cmucl-source suggests termcap-compat.  This is a libc5 compatibility
> >> package which should not have been used by contemporary packages for
> >> at least 6 years.
> >> 
> >> Please could you remove the termcap-compat suggestion completely.
> >
> > I'm fairly certain that Hemlock in terminal mode requires some sort
> > of termcap compatibility. I don't know whether this is supplied by
> > something else these days, but very few people seem to use Hemlock,
> > so I thought I'd just mention it, in case Hemlock-in-terminal does
> > not work without it, and people wonder what it's for.
> 
> Nowadays everything should use terminfo.  termcap-compat is not
> intended for use with current Debian packages; it exists only for
> libc5 applications, typically proprietary binary-only programs which
> can't be rebuilt.  cmucl-source doesn't fall into this category, and
> is naturally only dependent on libc6-based packages.

It parses /etc/termcap directly itself. It doesn't actually use any
termcap library, AFAIK. I imagine there might be some way to hack
around it by setting TERMCAP if terminfo/ncurses supplies any way
to automatically generate it, that might be a possibility, in a
wrapper script, if nothing else. If there is some other package that
provides /etc/termcap, that'd work, of course.

> It's also due to be removed shortly, which is why I filed this bug
> (it's the only package in Debian which references it).  See
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323139 for more
> information.

I see.

'mr

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Bug#326598: [cl-debian] Bug#326598: cmucl-source: suggests libc5-dependent package

2005-09-04 Thread Martin Rydstr|m
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 11:08:36AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Package: cmucl-source
> Severity: normal
> 
> cmucl-source suggests termcap-compat.  This is a libc5 compatibility
> package which should not have been used by contemporary packages for
> at least 6 years.
> 
> Please could you remove the termcap-compat suggestion completely.

I'm fairly certain that Hemlock in terminal mode requires some sort
of termcap compatibility. I don't know whether this is supplied by
something else these days, but very few people seem to use Hemlock,
so I thought I'd just mention it, in case Hemlock-in-terminal does
not work without it, and people wonder what it's for.

'mr

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