Bug#1006604: debian-edu-config: Debian Edu clients without GOsa system entry loose IP address after 30min
control: severity -1 wishlist control: retitle -1 better error reporting in case machines are used which were not added in GOsa thanks On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 02:27:38PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: [someone else wrote] > > > > Well, it is a bug in Debian Edu that the problem is obscure and hard to > > > > debug. I guess the issue should be detected and reported in the face of > > > > the person trying to set up a new machine, instead of the machine > > > > silently failing to keep its IP address agreed. something, some service should notice that there are machines on the network which not have been added to Gosa. Though I fear admins not reading the manual might miss such notifications too. And as such I also wonder where such notifications should be send too. > Since a long time, the manual contains detailed information about machine > management. [...] > I don't understand why some admins seem to avoid reading the manual. Thanks for confirming this is documented well, retitling and setting the severity accordingly. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ Change is coming whether you like it or not. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1006604: debian-edu-config: Debian Edu clients without GOsa system entry loose IP address after 30min
[ Mike Gabriel, 2022-03-01 ] > On Di 01 Mär 2022 11:22:46 CET, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > > [ Petter Reinholdtsen, 2022-03-01 ] > > > > > > [Holger Levsen] > > > > I wonder if this is a bug in Debian Edu at all: don't we require > > > hosts to be > > > > added to GOsa in the first place? > > > > > > Well, it is a bug in Debian Edu that the problem is obscure and hard to > > > debug. I guess the issue should be detected and reported in the face of > > > the person trying to set up a new machine, instead of the machine > > > silently failing to keep its IP address [..] > > > Traditionally it was required to register clients in GOsa to ensure > > > home directories could be mounted, not for it to get an IP address. > > > > Yes, that's still the case. > > Nope, see my previous mail about NFSv4+krb5i. Kerberized NFS is the default for Debian Edu 11 (bullseye) and has already been available as a Debian Edu 10 (buster) feature, see: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Buster/Features#Other_changes_compared_to_the_previous_release with information how to enable it: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Buster/HowTo/Administration#Kerberized_NFS Since a long time, the manual contains detailed information about machine management. For Debian Edu 11 kerberized NFS is also explained, see: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Bullseye/GettingStarted#Machine_Management_with_GOsa.2BALI- I don't understand why some admins seem to avoid reading the manual. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1006604: debian-edu-config: Debian Edu clients without GOsa system entry loose IP address after 30min
[ Petter Reinholdtsen, 2022-03-01 ] > > [Holger Levsen] > > I wonder if this is a bug in Debian Edu at all: don't we require hosts to be > > added to GOsa in the first place? > > Well, it is a bug in Debian Edu that the problem is obscure and hard to > debug. I guess the issue should be detected and reported in the face of > the person trying to set up a new machine, instead of the machine > silently failing to keep its IP address Sure. But then this seems to be a site specific non-standard use case, so site specific modification could be sufficient, I figure. Fixing it for bookworm would be good, though. > Traditionally it was required to register clients in GOsa to ensure > home directories could be mounted, not for it to get an IP address. Yes, that's still the case. I'm just wondering about the reported 30 minutes. It seems to be the default lease time on the backbone network (1800). Maybe raise it to a site specific value? (Can't test it, can't contribute more for the time being.) Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1006604: debian-edu-config: Debian Edu clients without GOsa system entry loose IP address after 30min
[Holger Levsen] > I wonder if this is a bug in Debian Edu at all: don't we require hosts to be > added to GOsa in the first place? Well, it is a bug in Debian Edu that the problem is obscure and hard to debug. I guess the issue should be detected and reported in the face of the person trying to set up a new machine, instead of the machine silently failing to keep its IP address Traditionally it was required to register clients in GOsa to ensure home directories could be mounted, not for it to get an IP address. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen
Bug#1006604: debian-edu-config: Debian Edu clients without GOsa system entry loose IP address after 30min
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:22:09AM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Comments, opinions? I wonder if this is a bug in Debian Edu at all: don't we require hosts to be added to GOsa in the first place? -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ "I know what you're thinking" used to be an idiom but now it's a business model. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
