Bug#1038440: debian-cd: debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso is too big for a CD

[Cyril Brulebois]

Claude Heiland-Allen  (2023-06-18):
> I'm not sure if I will actually need a CD,
> (refurbishing someone's old laptop,
> I don't know yet if it will boot from USB stick or not),
> but if it can only boot from CD I will have to
> install Bullseye (whose netinst does fit on a CD)
> and then upgrade, which is not ideal.

https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/-/issues/3 has:

> Revisit firmware packages included in the netinst (amd64 is 738M for
> 12.0.0): at least nvidia stuff wasn't planned in the beginning, and
> could be removed.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Bug#1038440: debian-cd: debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso is too big for a CD

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

when comparing 12.0.0 with 11.5.0 i see three file trees which have grown
substantially:

du of mounted debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso :
  5   /firmware
  126611  /install.amd
  308479  /pool

du of mounted debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso :
  221108  /firmware
  156509  /install.amd
  589416  /pool

In pool of 12.0.0 i see another firmware tree
  220570  /pool/non-free-firmware
but this does not cost much media capacity, because the file content is
shared with the files in the /firmware tree:

  $ xorriso -indev debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso \
-find / -sort_lba -exec report_lba --
  ...
  Report layout: xt , Startlba ,   Blocks , Filesize , ISO image path
  ...
  File data lba:  0 ,18420 , 8217 , 16827872 , 
'/firmware/firmware-atheros_20230210-5_all.deb'
  File data lba:  0 ,18420 , 8217 , 16827872 , 
'/pool/non-free-firmware/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-atheros_20230210-5_all.deb'
  ...

Such deduplication of hard links also happens with initrd.gz and vmlinuz
files in /install.amd. The real storage sizes as measured in above -find
output are:
   11.5.0   12.0.0  Growth
  /firmware 0 MiB  216 MiB 216 MiB
  /install.amd 67 MiB  138 MiB  71 MiB
  /pool   301 MiB  360 MiB  59 MiB

To fit on a regular "700 MB" (~ 702 MiB) CD-R/CD-RW these would have to
shrink by at least 36 MiB.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Bug#1038440: debian-cd: debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso is too big for a CD

[Claude Heiland-Allen]

Source: debian-cd
Severity: normal
Tags: d-i
X-Debbugs-Cc: cla...@mathr.co.uk

Dear Maintainer,

   * What led up to the situation?

I downloaded the "small" debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso (738 MiB)

   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)?

I tried to burn it to a CD-RW disc:

sudo wodim blank=all
sudo wodim -dao debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso

   * What was the outcome of this action?

wodim: WARNING: Data may not fit on current disk.
wodim: Notice: Use -overburn option to write more than the official disk 
capacity.
wodim: Notice: Most CD-writers do overburning only on SAO or RAW mode.

   * What outcome did you expect instead?

The ISO to be small enough to fit on an 80-minute CD (703 MiB).


I'm not sure if I will actually need a CD,
(refurbishing someone's old laptop,
I don't know yet if it will boot from USB stick or not),
but if it can only boot from CD I will have to
install Bullseye (whose netinst does fit on a CD)
and then upgrade, which is not ideal.


Thanks,


Claude

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