Bug#1053901: tech-ctte: Repeal merged-/usr file movement moratorium

[Stefano Rivera]

Hi Sean (2023.10.13_22:59:56_+0200)
> === BEGIN
> 
> OPTION A:
> 
> The Technical Committee formally repeals its moratorium recommending
> that maintainers of individual packages should not proactively move
> files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under /usr in
> the data.tar.* of packages (see #1035831).
> 
> Under Constitution 6.1.5, the Technical Committee now recommends that
> maintainers consult with those driving the merged-/usr transition before
> moving files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under
> /usr in the data.tar.* of packages.
> 
> The transition driver, which at the time of writing is Helmut Grohne, is
> using a phased approach, in which the moratorium is rolled back for only
> certain classes of packages, and changes, at a time.  In addition,
> restructuring uploads should be targeted at experimental, and left for
> three days.  This is in order that automated testing by dumat can occur.
> 
> We recommend following , as edited by
> the transition driver(s).  If there is any doubt as to whether a change
> you wish to make is appropriate, please seek explicit approval from the
> transition driver(s).
> 
> OPTION N:
> 
> None of the above.
> 
> === END

I vote A > N

Stefano

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Bug#1053901: tech-ctte: Repeal merged-/usr file movement moratorium

[Helmut Grohne]

Hi,

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 09:59:56PM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote:
> === BEGIN
> 
> OPTION A:
> 
> The Technical Committee formally repeals its moratorium recommending
> that maintainers of individual packages should not proactively move
> files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under /usr in
> the data.tar.* of packages (see #1035831).
> 
> Under Constitution 6.1.5, the Technical Committee now recommends that
> maintainers consult with those driving the merged-/usr transition before
> moving files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under
> /usr in the data.tar.* of packages.
> 
> The transition driver, which at the time of writing is Helmut Grohne, is
> using a phased approach, in which the moratorium is rolled back for only
> certain classes of packages, and changes, at a time.  In addition,
> restructuring uploads should be targeted at experimental, and left for
> three days.  This is in order that automated testing by dumat can occur.
> 
> We recommend following , as edited by
> the transition driver(s).  If there is any doubt as to whether a change
> you wish to make is appropriate, please seek explicit approval from the
> transition driver(s).
> 
> OPTION N:
> 
> None of the above.
> 
> === END

I explicitly abstain from voting.

Rationale: I am severely biased on this matter. When I started working
on /usr-merge, I indicated that I would abstain from related votes. This
is one of those votes. If I were instead voting A = N as a means of not
biasing the vote, I would lower the quorum by providing a vote and thus
increasing other voter's vote weights. Hence, I am not providing a vote
at all on this.

On a technical level, I support this matter of course and I even
encouraged developers to ignore the moratorium in specific cases already
as a means to gather more experience with doing so. For more background
information, refer to
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2023/10/msg00028.html.

Helmut


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Bug#1053901: tech-ctte: Repeal merged-/usr file movement moratorium

[Simon McVittie]

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 at 21:59:56 +0100, Sean Whitton wrote:
> OPTION A:
> 
> The Technical Committee formally repeals its moratorium recommending
> that maintainers of individual packages should not proactively move
> files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under /usr in
> the data.tar.* of packages (see #1035831).
> 
> Under Constitution 6.1.5, the Technical Committee now recommends that
> maintainers consult with those driving the merged-/usr transition before
> moving files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under
> /usr in the data.tar.* of packages.
> 
> The transition driver, which at the time of writing is Helmut Grohne, is
> using a phased approach, in which the moratorium is rolled back for only
> certain classes of packages, and changes, at a time.  In addition,
> restructuring uploads should be targeted at experimental, and left for
> three days.  This is in order that automated testing by dumat can occur.
> 
> We recommend following , as edited by
> the transition driver(s).  If there is any doubt as to whether a change
> you wish to make is appropriate, please seek explicit approval from the
> transition driver(s).
> 
> OPTION N:
> 
> None of the above.

I vote A > N.

Thanks,
smcv


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Bug#1053901: tech-ctte: Repeal merged-/usr file movement moratorium

[Timo Röhling]

* Sean Whitton  [2023-10-13 21:59]:

=== BEGIN

OPTION A:

The Technical Committee formally repeals its moratorium recommending
that maintainers of individual packages should not proactively move
files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under /usr in
the data.tar.* of packages (see #1035831).

Under Constitution 6.1.5, the Technical Committee now recommends that
maintainers consult with those driving the merged-/usr transition before
moving files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under
/usr in the data.tar.* of packages.

The transition driver, which at the time of writing is Helmut Grohne, is
using a phased approach, in which the moratorium is rolled back for only
certain classes of packages, and changes, at a time.  In addition,
restructuring uploads should be targeted at experimental, and left for
three days.  This is in order that automated testing by dumat can occur.

We recommend following , as edited by
the transition driver(s).  If there is any doubt as to whether a change
you wish to make is appropriate, please seek explicit approval from the
transition driver(s).

OPTION N:

None of the above.

=== END


I vote

A > N

Cheers
Timo


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Bug#1053901: tech-ctte: Repeal merged-/usr file movement moratorium

[Christoph Berg]

Re: Sean Whitton
> Package: tech-ctte
> 
> I call for votes on the following resolution.
> Voting lasts for one week or until the outcome is no longer in doubt.
> 
> === BEGIN
> 
> OPTION A:
> 
> The Technical Committee formally repeals its moratorium recommending
> that maintainers of individual packages should not proactively move
> files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under /usr in
> the data.tar.* of packages (see #1035831).
> 
> Under Constitution 6.1.5, the Technical Committee now recommends that
> maintainers consult with those driving the merged-/usr transition before
> moving files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under
> /usr in the data.tar.* of packages.
> 
> The transition driver, which at the time of writing is Helmut Grohne, is
> using a phased approach, in which the moratorium is rolled back for only
> certain classes of packages, and changes, at a time.  In addition,
> restructuring uploads should be targeted at experimental, and left for
> three days.  This is in order that automated testing by dumat can occur.
> 
> We recommend following , as edited by
> the transition driver(s).  If there is any doubt as to whether a change
> you wish to make is appropriate, please seek explicit approval from the
> transition driver(s).
> 
> OPTION N:
> 
> None of the above.
> 
> === END

I vote A > N.

Christoph


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Bug#1053901: tech-ctte: Repeal merged-/usr file movement moratorium

[Sean Whitton]

Hello,

On Fri 13 Oct 2023 at 09:59pm +01, Sean Whitton wrote:

> === BEGIN
>
> OPTION A:
>
> The Technical Committee formally repeals its moratorium recommending
> that maintainers of individual packages should not proactively move
> files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under /usr in
> the data.tar.* of packages (see #1035831).
>
> Under Constitution 6.1.5, the Technical Committee now recommends that
> maintainers consult with those driving the merged-/usr transition before
> moving files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under
> /usr in the data.tar.* of packages.
>
> The transition driver, which at the time of writing is Helmut Grohne, is
> using a phased approach, in which the moratorium is rolled back for only
> certain classes of packages, and changes, at a time.  In addition,
> restructuring uploads should be targeted at experimental, and left for
> three days.  This is in order that automated testing by dumat can occur.
>
> We recommend following , as edited by
> the transition driver(s).  If there is any doubt as to whether a change
> you wish to make is appropriate, please seek explicit approval from the
> transition driver(s).
>
> OPTION N:
>
> None of the above.
>
> === END

I vote

A > N

-- 
Sean Whitton


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Bug#1053901: tech-ctte: Repeal merged-/usr file movement moratorium

[Sean Whitton]

Package: tech-ctte

I call for votes on the following resolution.
Voting lasts for one week or until the outcome is no longer in doubt.

=== BEGIN

OPTION A:

The Technical Committee formally repeals its moratorium recommending
that maintainers of individual packages should not proactively move
files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under /usr in
the data.tar.* of packages (see #1035831).

Under Constitution 6.1.5, the Technical Committee now recommends that
maintainers consult with those driving the merged-/usr transition before
moving files from the root filesystem to corresponding locations under
/usr in the data.tar.* of packages.

The transition driver, which at the time of writing is Helmut Grohne, is
using a phased approach, in which the moratorium is rolled back for only
certain classes of packages, and changes, at a time.  In addition,
restructuring uploads should be targeted at experimental, and left for
three days.  This is in order that automated testing by dumat can occur.

We recommend following , as edited by
the transition driver(s).  If there is any doubt as to whether a change
you wish to make is appropriate, please seek explicit approval from the
transition driver(s).

OPTION N:

None of the above.

=== END

-- 
Sean Whitton


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