Bug#1054142: cron-daemon-common: Cron now depends on systemd.

2023-12-16 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Hello again, Jerry,

one month has passed since the moreinfo query, so I close the bug report
as announced. Please reopen this bug report if you have given a try with
bullseye's or bookworm's releases of the package.

Best regards,   Georges.

Georges Khaznadar a écrit :
> Hello again, Jerry,
> 
> 
> Jerry Kaisler a écrit :
> >* What led up to the situation? cron should NOT depend on systemd.
> >* What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
> >  ineffective)? tried to install a base system without systemd.
> >* What was the outcome of this action? It failed because systemd was not
> > installed.
> >* What outcome did you expect instead? the ability to install cron after
> > stripping out the hot steaming pile that is systemd.
> 
> Your four lines of information give exactly the same information than
> your bug report's title.
> 
> Please can you elaborate further? 
> I tried to undestand why there was a dependency on systemd.
> 
> cron depends on package init-system-helpers; when I run 
> `apt-cache showpkg init-system-helpers`, I can see that an old version
> of init-system-helpers (version 1.56+nmu1) is depending on systemd.
> Other versions do no depend on it.
> 
> Did you try to install a base system based on buster? This one is
> currently old-old-stable. Please give a try with bullseye or bookworm.
> 
> As the dependency on systemd does not exist in distributions oldstable
> and stable, I shall close this bug report shortly.
> 
> Best regards, Georges.
> 



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Bug#1054142: cron-daemon-common: Cron now depends on systemd.

2023-11-21 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Hello again, Jerry,


Jerry Kaisler a écrit :
>* What led up to the situation? cron should NOT depend on systemd.
>* What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
>  ineffective)? tried to install a base system without systemd.
>* What was the outcome of this action? It failed because systemd was not
> installed.
>* What outcome did you expect instead? the ability to install cron after
> stripping out the hot steaming pile that is systemd.

Your four lines of information give exactly the same information than
your bug report's title.

Please can you elaborate further? 
I tried to undestand why there was a dependency on systemd.

cron depends on package init-system-helpers; when I run 
`apt-cache showpkg init-system-helpers`, I can see that an old version
of init-system-helpers (version 1.56+nmu1) is depending on systemd.
Other versions do no depend on it.

Did you try to install a base system based on buster? This one is
currently old-old-stable. Please give a try with bullseye or bookworm.

As the dependency on systemd does not exist in distributions oldstable
and stable, I shall close this bug report shortly.

Best regards,   Georges.



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Bug#1054142: cron-daemon-common: Cron now depends on systemd.

2023-11-01 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Control: tags 1054142 + moreinfo

Dear Jerry, please can you elaborate a little more about bug #1054142?

So far the only useful information is the title of the bug report.

Please can you check whether the file /etc/init.d/cron does exist in your
computer? It should contain the line 
8<---
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
8<---

So, if your system is ruled by SYSV Init, I suppose that the file
/etc/init.d/cron is symlinked to the directories /etc/rc2.d, /etc/rc3.d,
/etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d; do you find those symlinks?

Thank you for that additional information about your system.

Best regards,   Georges.


Jerry Kaisler a écrit :
> Package: cron-daemon-common
> Severity: important
> X-Debbugs-Cc: bugrep...@ntlhelp.net
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***
> 
>* What led up to the situation? cron should NOT depend on systemd.
>* What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
>  ineffective)? tried to install a base system without systemd.
>* What was the outcome of this action? It failed because systemd was not
> installed.
>* What outcome did you expect instead? the ability to install cron after
> stripping out the hot steaming pile that is systemd.
> 
> *** End of the template - remove these template lines ***
> 
> 
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: bookworm/sid
>   APT prefers jammy-updates
>   APT policy: (500, 'jammy-updates'), (500, 'jammy-security'), (500, 
> 'jammy'), (100, 'jammy-backports')
> Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
> Foreign Architectures: i386
> 
> Kernel: Linux 6.5.4-76060504-generic (SMP w/20 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
> Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, 
> TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
> Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not 
> set
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
> Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
> LSM: AppArmor: enabled
> 

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Georges KHAZNADAR et Jocelyne FOURNIER
22 rue des mouettes, 59240 Dunkerque France.
Téléphone +33 (0)3 28 29 17 70



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Bug#1054142: cron-daemon-common: Cron now depends on systemd.

2023-10-17 Thread Jerry Kaisler
Package: cron-daemon-common
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: bugrep...@ntlhelp.net

Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation? cron should NOT depend on systemd.
   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)? tried to install a base system without systemd.
   * What was the outcome of this action? It failed because systemd was not
installed.
   * What outcome did you expect instead? the ability to install cron after
stripping out the hot steaming pile that is systemd.

*** End of the template - remove these template lines ***


-- System Information:
Debian Release: bookworm/sid
  APT prefers jammy-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'jammy-updates'), (500, 'jammy-security'), (500, 'jammy'), 
(100, 'jammy-backports')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 6.5.4-76060504-generic (SMP w/20 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, 
TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled