Bug#1054142: cron-daemon-common: Cron now depends on systemd.
Hello again, Jerry, one month has passed since the moreinfo query, so I close the bug report as announced. Please reopen this bug report if you have given a try with bullseye's or bookworm's releases of the package. Best regards, Georges. Georges Khaznadar a écrit : > Hello again, Jerry, > > > Jerry Kaisler a écrit : > >* What led up to the situation? cron should NOT depend on systemd. > >* What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or > > ineffective)? tried to install a base system without systemd. > >* What was the outcome of this action? It failed because systemd was not > > installed. > >* What outcome did you expect instead? the ability to install cron after > > stripping out the hot steaming pile that is systemd. > > Your four lines of information give exactly the same information than > your bug report's title. > > Please can you elaborate further? > I tried to undestand why there was a dependency on systemd. > > cron depends on package init-system-helpers; when I run > `apt-cache showpkg init-system-helpers`, I can see that an old version > of init-system-helpers (version 1.56+nmu1) is depending on systemd. > Other versions do no depend on it. > > Did you try to install a base system based on buster? This one is > currently old-old-stable. Please give a try with bullseye or bookworm. > > As the dependency on systemd does not exist in distributions oldstable > and stable, I shall close this bug report shortly. > > Best regards, Georges. > -- Georges KHAZNADAR et Jocelyne FOURNIER 22 rue des mouettes, 59240 Dunkerque France. Téléphone +33 (0)3 28 29 17 70 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1054142: cron-daemon-common: Cron now depends on systemd.
Hello again, Jerry, Jerry Kaisler a écrit : >* What led up to the situation? cron should NOT depend on systemd. >* What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or > ineffective)? tried to install a base system without systemd. >* What was the outcome of this action? It failed because systemd was not > installed. >* What outcome did you expect instead? the ability to install cron after > stripping out the hot steaming pile that is systemd. Your four lines of information give exactly the same information than your bug report's title. Please can you elaborate further? I tried to undestand why there was a dependency on systemd. cron depends on package init-system-helpers; when I run `apt-cache showpkg init-system-helpers`, I can see that an old version of init-system-helpers (version 1.56+nmu1) is depending on systemd. Other versions do no depend on it. Did you try to install a base system based on buster? This one is currently old-old-stable. Please give a try with bullseye or bookworm. As the dependency on systemd does not exist in distributions oldstable and stable, I shall close this bug report shortly. Best regards, Georges. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1054142: cron-daemon-common: Cron now depends on systemd.
Control: tags 1054142 + moreinfo Dear Jerry, please can you elaborate a little more about bug #1054142? So far the only useful information is the title of the bug report. Please can you check whether the file /etc/init.d/cron does exist in your computer? It should contain the line 8<--- # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 8<--- So, if your system is ruled by SYSV Init, I suppose that the file /etc/init.d/cron is symlinked to the directories /etc/rc2.d, /etc/rc3.d, /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d; do you find those symlinks? Thank you for that additional information about your system. Best regards, Georges. Jerry Kaisler a écrit : > Package: cron-daemon-common > Severity: important > X-Debbugs-Cc: bugrep...@ntlhelp.net > > Dear Maintainer, > > *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** > >* What led up to the situation? cron should NOT depend on systemd. >* What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or > ineffective)? tried to install a base system without systemd. >* What was the outcome of this action? It failed because systemd was not > installed. >* What outcome did you expect instead? the ability to install cron after > stripping out the hot steaming pile that is systemd. > > *** End of the template - remove these template lines *** > > > -- System Information: > Debian Release: bookworm/sid > APT prefers jammy-updates > APT policy: (500, 'jammy-updates'), (500, 'jammy-security'), (500, > 'jammy'), (100, 'jammy-backports') > Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) > Foreign Architectures: i386 > > Kernel: Linux 6.5.4-76060504-generic (SMP w/20 CPU threads; PREEMPT) > Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, > TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE > Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not > set > Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash > Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) > LSM: AppArmor: enabled > -- Georges KHAZNADAR et Jocelyne FOURNIER 22 rue des mouettes, 59240 Dunkerque France. Téléphone +33 (0)3 28 29 17 70 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1054142: cron-daemon-common: Cron now depends on systemd.
Package: cron-daemon-common Severity: important X-Debbugs-Cc: bugrep...@ntlhelp.net Dear Maintainer, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? cron should NOT depend on systemd. * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or ineffective)? tried to install a base system without systemd. * What was the outcome of this action? It failed because systemd was not installed. * What outcome did you expect instead? the ability to install cron after stripping out the hot steaming pile that is systemd. *** End of the template - remove these template lines *** -- System Information: Debian Release: bookworm/sid APT prefers jammy-updates APT policy: (500, 'jammy-updates'), (500, 'jammy-security'), (500, 'jammy'), (100, 'jammy-backports') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 6.5.4-76060504-generic (SMP w/20 CPU threads; PREEMPT) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled