Bug#280124: bug or pebkac?
Hi Toni, On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 11:36:46AM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: below is a quick run-down from memory. It's been a while since I did it, and I'm currently not in the mood for experimenting too much (and rather time-constrained, too). Thanks for sending me your notes. While this is not a foolproof howto, it may be helpful for other people with the same problem. May I put this in some README.chinese_fonts document in the debian package? Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#280124: bug or pebkac?
Hi Jan, On Thu, 15.11.2007 at 18:21:54 +0100, Jan Niehusmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 11:36:46AM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: below is a quick run-down from memory. It's been a while since I did it, and I'm currently not in the mood for experimenting too much (and rather time-constrained, too). Thanks for sending me your notes. While this is not a foolproof howto, it may be helpful for other people with the same problem. May I put this in some README.chinese_fonts document in the debian package? yes, if you want. And please, if you come across similar information for other languages, also rtl ones, please let me know. Best, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#280124: bug or pebkac?
Hi Toni, On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07.10.2007 at 12:28:03 +0200, Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been struggling with getting PSI to show chinese glyphs well, but it often displays only an empty box instead of the glyph I want, whereas at least kbookmarkmanager and kaddressbook display all of them it turned out to be my user error, but I'd like to note that the configuration of all this is, requiring the coordinated use of qtconfig-qt3 and the fonts configuration option in psi highly unintuitive (imho). I don't know where this is explained, too. Could you write some lines explaining how you configured psi to display these fonts well? Then I could add it as a readme to to /usr/share/doc/psi/. BTW, sorry that I wasn't able to help you with this issue, I'm only using characters available in latin1, so most programs just work in that regard. Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#280124: bug or pebkac?
Hi Jan, On Mon, 05.11.2007 at 10:31:25 +0100, Jan Niehusmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07.10.2007 at 12:28:03 +0200, Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been struggling with getting PSI to show chinese glyphs well, but it often displays only an empty box instead of the glyph I want, whereas at least kbookmarkmanager and kaddressbook display all of them it turned out to be my user error, but I'd like to note that the configuration of all this is, requiring the coordinated use of qtconfig-qt3 and the fonts configuration option in psi highly unintuitive (imho). I don't know where this is explained, too. Could you write some lines explaining how you configured psi to display these fonts well? Then I could add it as a readme to to /usr/share/doc/psi/. BTW, sorry that I wasn't able to help you with this issue, I'm only using characters available in latin1, so most programs just work in that regard. below is a quick run-down from memory. It's been a while since I did it, and I'm currently not in the mood for experimenting too much (and rather time-constrained, too). I have de_DE.utf8 as my standard language environment. This is probably important because I guess that when you are using non-UTF8 locales, your results will differ by a LARGE margin. Next, one needs an input method because chinese glyphs can't be directly typed (~50.000 against ~100 keys... go figure). I use scim, and I implemented the Smart Pinyin input method (and would like help with other methods). One also needs all fonts that one can grab. The names of the font packages don't readily suggest which fonts are in them, and the only font I found working well enough for me seems to be AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni. I don't know which package contains it, however. I also don't know which other font and/or input method I'd have to choose if I wanted to write Traditional Chinese... help appreciated! Next, fire up qtconfig-qt3 (because psi is a qt3 program), go to the tab labelled 'Fonts', and select a font. I selected Sans Serif as my default font because I usually use western fonts. Then select the Sans Serif family in the drop-down menu labelled Select or Enter a Family. Then, go to the bottom of that pane and select the font AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni in the drop-down menu labelled Select substitude Family. In psi, you also select Sans Serif as your standard font. As far as I understood, this results in psi (or any other qt3 application) looking for a glyph it cannot display using the standard font, will look into the substitution table and try to take the glyphs from the fonts listed there, in order. But you need to match your font settings in psi with the font settings in qtconfig-qt3 in order to make qt3 look up the correct subsitutions for you. Eg it should be possible to replace all occurrences of Sans Serif with Times. I don't know how to do this with other non-latin fonts, however. Also, the idea of using qtconfig-qt3 was not mine. It was suggested to me by someone who had a similar problem in the past. Best, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#280124: bug or pebkac?
Hi, On Sun, 07.10.2007 at 12:28:03 +0200, Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been struggling with getting PSI to show chinese glyphs well, but it often displays only an empty box instead of the glyph I want, whereas at least kbookmarkmanager and kaddressbook display all of them it turned out to be my user error, but I'd like to note that the configuration of all this is, requiring the coordinated use of qtconfig-qt3 and the fonts configuration option in psi highly unintuitive (imho). I don't know where this is explained, too. So, this is probably no software bug from my perspective. Best, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#280124: bug or pebkac?
Hi Jan, I can't see that the bug is fixed, but then it may be a user error. I also didn't try with a non-UTF-8 locale. I've been struggling with getting PSI to show chinese glyphs well, but it often displays only an empty box instead of the glyph I want, whereas at least kbookmarkmanager and kaddressbook display all of them nicely, and GTK apps and OpenOffice.org display correctly, too. The latter fact leads me to believe that I have all required fonts, and also added the required substitution using qtconfig-* (that was necessary because Qt didn't do it right, initially). I have ar pl shanheisun uni as the substitution for a Big5 font which comes as a standard (that's imho a mistake, to begin with). So far, PSI seems to be the only application I tried that doesn't do it correctly. I'm using the default Etch version of psi and have the following packages installed: ii psi0.10-2 Jabber client using Qt ii psi-translatio 1.9Translations for psi I have the following language settings: $ env|grep -E '(LANG|LC_)' LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8 LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf8 LANG=de_DE.utf8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 LC_TIME=en_US.utf8 Best, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
