Bug#283311: mutt: use_from is a bad default, but I forgot why

2005-03-10 Thread Bernhard Kaindl
Point 1)

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On Mar 09, Bernhard Kaindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe there was some bug in some configuration earlyer
  in use_from, but as it's enabled by default in upstream
  and in othere GNU/Linux packagings too, the reason might
  have been temporary.
 No, it was not temporary.

Nice that you know.

I don't know why you think it is a bad default but you know
it was not because of some bug.

Again, Why?

You should not insist in things you don't know anymore.

Point 2)

You did not wanswer to this:

 and also the fcc files are written without a from header.

- What is your comment on that?

 I'd even say that that might violate some RFC about mail, because normally
 mail programs will assume that there is a from header in the mail, having
 none in a saved mail folder means lack of function to me because the mailer
 cannot show the From address since there is none.

- And did you check that it does not violate an RFC
   to not send and save the From header?

Again no answer from you.

And what is your justification for having a different
default than upstream and not even knowing why?


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Bug#283311: mutt: use_from is a bad default, but I forgot why

2005-03-09 Thread Bernhard Kaindl
Package: mutt
Version: 1.5.6-20040907+3
Followup-For: Bug #283311


Hi,
   maybe there was some bug in some configuration earlyer
in use_from, but as it's enabled by default in upstream
and in othere GNU/Linux packagings too, the reason might
have been temporary.

For example also with exim you can end up exim not having
add a From header, and also the fcc files are written
without a from header. I'd even say that that might violate
some RFC about mail, because normally mail programs will
assume that there is a from header in the mail, having
none in a saved mail folder means lack of function to
me because the mailer cannot show the From address
since there is none.

In exim, it seems to be possible to configure it so
that exim requires a From: header or otherwise immediately
discard the mail as spam (rightfully..) and if that
is configured, it seem to affect even local users of
mutt with this default config.

I'd propose to ask the upstream maintainers if they have
an idea, and if not I think it should be revmoved just
for having the same defaults than every other mutt package.

Bernhard


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Bug#283311: mutt: use_from is a bad default, but I forgot why

2005-03-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 09, Bernhard Kaindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

maybe there was some bug in some configuration earlyer
 in use_from, but as it's enabled by default in upstream
 and in othere GNU/Linux packagings too, the reason might
 have been temporary.
No, it was not temporary.

 For example also with exim you can end up exim not having
 add a From header, and also the fcc files are written
Maybe then exim should not be misconfigured.

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Marco


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