Bug#293176: Setting system wide defaults.

2005-02-08 Thread Chris Halls
On Monday 07 Feb 2005 22:22, John McMonagle wrote:
 How about be real convoluted and link the cache into  var :)

Linking things around is not wonderful because it a) is really difficult to 
manage from a packaging point of view and b) confuses people who are used to 
the current layout and annoys upstream when it breaks other stuff (see for 
example the problems with the font installer).

Would you mind taking this upstream to see if you can get any sort of 
consensus about how they would like this solved?  It would make life a lot 
easier for everyone if there was an agreed way to do this.

Thanks
Chris


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Bug#293176: Setting system wide defaults.

2005-02-07 Thread John McMonagle
Made a lot of progress.
Here is what I tried:
Made a fresh user install.
Did customizations as that user. Even added a clip art and template.
Zipped up user/   I did exclude a couple things but did most everything.
Created /etc/openoffice/uno_packages
Linked to/etc/openoffice/uno_packages into  
/usr/lib/openoffice/share
copied zip into /etc/openoffice/uno_packages
ran /usr/lib/openoffice/program/pkgchkhk -s

It worked just fine!
Need to check out a few points yet but at worst case I'm real close.
From my experience so far the only reason everyone with a multiuser 
environment is not doing it is because they do not know it can be done!

So my request can be changed to:
Create  /etc/openoffice/uno_packages directory
link it to where ever you put share  /usr/lib/openoffice/share
I can of course just do it myself as that is what the uno_packages 
directory is for can feel pretty confident that safe and will not be 
clobbered. The worst that could likely happen is an upgrade would remove 
the link and I doubt if that would happen.
If you put it in the package that covers that possibility.

John
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Bug#293176: Setting system wide defaults.

2005-02-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

John McMonagle wrote:
 Created /etc/openoffice/uno_packages
 Linked to/etc/openoffice/uno_packages into  
 /usr/lib/openoffice/share
 copied zip into /etc/openoffice/uno_packages
 ran /usr/lib/openoffice/program/pkgchkhk -s

uno_packages should be in /var if outside /usr/lib/openoffice/share.
And you eventually should make the symlink the other way round.

 From my experience so far the only reason everyone with a multiuser 
 environment is not doing it is because they do not know it can be done!

 So my request can be changed to:
 Create  /etc/openoffice/uno_packages directory
 link it to where ever you put share  /usr/lib/openoffice/share

If, then /var. /var looks better suited for that. Since uno_packages is
not only configuration but also external packages.

 clobbered. The worst that could likely happen is an upgrade would remove 
 the link and I doubt if that would happen.
 If you put it in the package that covers that possibility.

I'll look and think about it.

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Bug#293176: Setting system wide defaults.

2005-02-07 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

Rene Engelhard wrote:
 If, then /var. /var looks better suited for that. Since uno_packages is
 not only configuration but also external packages.

And especially since it contains variable data as a cache...

Grüße/Regards,

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Bug#293176: Setting system wide defaults.

2005-02-07 Thread John McMonagle
Any particular place?
I'm not  familiar with debian rules but /usr/lib/openoffice/share is a 
really bad place as you should be able mount /usr ro also it just seems 
wrong ;-)

How about be real convoluted and link the cache into  var :)
John
Rene Engelhard wrote:
Hi,
John McMonagle wrote:
 

Created /etc/openoffice/uno_packages
Linked to/etc/openoffice/uno_packages into  
/usr/lib/openoffice/share
copied zip into /etc/openoffice/uno_packages
ran /usr/lib/openoffice/program/pkgchkhk -s
   

uno_packages should be in /var if outside /usr/lib/openoffice/share.
And you eventually should make the symlink the other way round.
 

From my experience so far the only reason everyone with a multiuser 
environment is not doing it is because they do not know it can be done!
   

 

So my request can be changed to:
Create  /etc/openoffice/uno_packages directory
link it to where ever you put share  /usr/lib/openoffice/share
   

If, then /var. /var looks better suited for that. Since uno_packages is
not only configuration but also external packages.
 

clobbered. The worst that could likely happen is an upgrade would remove 
the link and I doubt if that would happen.
If you put it in the package that covers that possibility.
   

I'll look and think about it.
Grüße/Regards,
René
 


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Bug#293176: Setting system wide defaults.

2005-02-01 Thread John McMonagle
Package: openoffice.org
Version: 1.1.2dfsg1-3
Severity: wishlist
I need the ability to set system wide defaults.
Currently set things like default fonts, data sources and autosave.
I suspect others with an enterprise environment would find this useful.
I have tried a couple things over the years but nothing has been 100% 
satisfactory.

Current I'm running rh7.3 with a generic openoffice 1.1.0.
I'm switching to debian sarge and want to use the the debian packages.
What I currently do is to edit the xml files 
/usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/share
Can get away with this because I have complete control over the 
installation.
I'm sure I could so the same with in /usr/lib/openoffice/share but I 
assume my changes would be killed
with every update as I doubt it is anticipated that these files will be 
edited. If charges are checked for, that may be a possibility, but 
really do not like config files in /usr

As far as I can see openoffice merges the configurations from 
/usr/lib/openoffice/share with the users personal install user/ files. A 
really nice solution would be to  merge in configs from /etc/openoffice.

Another method that I have done is to add a hook in the install part of 
openoffice startup program to copy in additional configuration data into 
the personal install.

I need some sort of solution very soon.
Is there something in place that I'm not aware of?
Any plans?
I need to do it anyway I can contribute what I do.
Appreciate any comments or suggestions on the best way to proceed.
John

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