Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
* Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 18:41]: There are many ways to fix this bug. This is true for many bugs. But when I ask myself Is this bug bad enough that I will hold up the release for it, my honest answer is I don't think I would. This isn't the same as nobody is allowed to fix this bug - it is just we're not going to wait on fixing this bug. (And I know a couple of more possible breakages in packages which are not-yet-RC, a few kinds are on my personal work list for the Lenny cycle.) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:57:54AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 18:41]: There are many ways to fix this bug. This is true for many bugs. But when I ask myself Is this bug bad enough that I will hold up the release for it, my honest answer is I don't think I would. This isn't the same as nobody is allowed to fix this bug - it is just we're not going to wait on fixing this bug. (And I know a couple of more possible breakages in packages which are not-yet-RC, a few kinds are on my personal work list for the Lenny cycle.) Considering that there's an obvious one liner as workaround for this bug, I'm surprised how much time you are spending stating that this bug doesn't have to be fixed for etch instead of spending less time on uploading an NMU... Cheers, Andi cu Adrian -- Is there not promise of rain? Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. Only a promise, Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 11:24:00AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:57:54AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 18:41]: There are many ways to fix this bug. This is true for many bugs. But when I ask myself Is this bug bad enough that I will hold up the release for it, my honest answer is I don't think I would. This isn't the same as nobody is allowed to fix this bug - it is just we're not going to wait on fixing this bug. (And I know a couple of more possible breakages in packages which are not-yet-RC, a few kinds are on my personal work list for the Lenny cycle.) Considering that there's an obvious one liner as workaround for this bug, I'm surprised how much time you are spending stating that this bug doesn't have to be fixed for etch instead of spending less time on uploading an NMU... This is not the only bug of this class in Debian. Despite your perversity in disputing the RM's authority to use the etch-ignore tag, it still takes less time to have this argument out than to try to fix all bugs of this nature, which in fact don't warrant being RC. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
severity 295375 serious thanks Quoting Andreas Barth (who didn't Cc me, so I didn't see it earlier): -- snip -- Though this statement is true, that is not release critical *yet* - because no such package has entered Debian yet. -- snip -- Since such a package was already in the archive when I raised the severity, Andreas' justification for downgrading was wrong. cu Adrian -- Is there not promise of rain? Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. Only a promise, Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
tags 295375 + etch-ignore thanks * Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 15:50]: Though this statement is true, that is not release critical *yet* - because no such package has entered Debian yet. Since such a package was already in the archive when I raised the severity, Andreas' justification for downgrading was wrong. Ok, gaia is the only case - this package won't go to etch, so this is not RC for etch, but only later on. (For technical reasons, I'm marking the bug report as etch-ignore, though a sid-tag would be more appropriate instead.) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
tags 295375 - etch-ignore thanks On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 04:00:38PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: tags 295375 + etch-ignore thanks * Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 15:50]: Though this statement is true, that is not release critical *yet* - because no such package has entered Debian yet. Since such a package was already in the archive when I raised the severity, Andreas' justification for downgrading was wrong. Ok, gaia is the only case - this package won't go to etch, so this is not RC for etch, but only later on. (For technical reasons, I'm marking the bug report as etch-ignore, though a sid-tag would be more appropriate instead.) And once again you are wrong... The gpsd-clients binary package in etch also suffers from this bug. Cheers, Andi cu Adrian -- Is there not promise of rain? Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. Only a promise, Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
tags 295375 + etch-ignore thanks * Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 16:23]: And once again you are wrong... The gpsd-clients binary package in etch also suffers from this bug. ... which happen to be built from the gpsd source package. Sorry, I don't see a reason why this is RC. (In case the gpsd source package is uploaded with a different version, it isn't any issue to also touch the clients-package.) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
tags 295375 - etch-ignore thanks On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 05:55:59PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: tags 295375 + etch-ignore thanks * Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 16:23]: And once again you are wrong... The gpsd-clients binary package in etch also suffers from this bug. ... which happen to be built from the gpsd source package. Sorry, I don't see a reason why this is RC. (In case the gpsd source package is uploaded with a different version, it isn't any issue to also touch the clients-package.) The problem is that if you'd only upgrade gpsd but not gpsd-clients, this would break gpsd-clients. This is _exactly_ the same problem as with gaia. And yes, the gpsd-clients dependency on gpsd is created by shlibs. And no, the dependency on gpsd is not versioned. If statement that is not release critical *yet* - because no such package has entered Debian yet was not meant to be a joke, this is a RC bug for etch. Cheers, Andi cu Adrian -- Is there not promise of rain? Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. Only a promise, Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
tags 295375 + etch-ignore thanks Just to say the obvious: With my authority as Release Manager, I say this bug is not release critical. * Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 18:16]: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 05:55:59PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: ... which happen to be built from the gpsd source package. Sorry, I don't see a reason why this is RC. (In case the gpsd source package is uploaded with a different version, it isn't any issue to also touch the clients-package.) The problem is that if you'd only upgrade gpsd but not gpsd-clients, this would break gpsd-clients. This is _exactly_ the same problem as with gaia. Surely it won't be too hard to provide a conflicts for a binary package inside the same source package, right? (I usually don't mind for such stuff inside of one source package, and I don't mind if another package is not part of the stable release.) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#295375: RC due to gaia
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:29:20PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: tags 295375 + etch-ignore thanks Just to say the obvious: With my authority as Release Manager, I say this bug is not release critical. * Adrian Bunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070120 18:16]: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 05:55:59PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: ... which happen to be built from the gpsd source package. Sorry, I don't see a reason why this is RC. (In case the gpsd source package is uploaded with a different version, it isn't any issue to also touch the clients-package.) The problem is that if you'd only upgrade gpsd but not gpsd-clients, this would break gpsd-clients. This is _exactly_ the same problem as with gaia. Surely it won't be too hard to provide a conflicts for a binary package inside the same source package, right? (I usually don't mind for such stuff inside of one source package, and I don't mind if another package is not part of the stable release.) There are many ways to fix this bug. But you seem to be only interested in getting this bug out of your RC bugs metric instead of kicking the maintainer to fix his buggy or to do a simple NMU for fixing this bug. Poor Debian. Cheers, Andi cu Adrian -- Is there not promise of rain? Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. Only a promise, Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
