Bug#296695: CD net-install won't work on Dell Inspiron 5000
also sprach Martin Stiaszny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.02.24.2335 +0100]: Come again? I was never even asked that question by the installer. Do you mean the bootable flag for the partition? I tried with that both set and unset, and it hung in the same place. Okay, sorry. I am myself totally unacquainted with normal mode, so maybe someone else can take this on? Just tried expert install; I see can you can choose GRUB or Lilo, except I never made it that far - for some reason, the expert install cannot start the PCMCIA card services, which is odd, because the automated install does so just fine. Can you provide more detail? So I tried this instead. Except when I kill it, it simply restarts and proceeds to try to install GRUB all over again. That's odd. I guess there is another process which starts grub. I don't have a machine handy on which I can try the installation, so I have to work from memory. I am also in a train right now, so I hope someone else answers in the mean time. So who I be responding to? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], you, or all of the above? Just [EMAIL PROTECTED] is fine. -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#296695: CD net-install won't work on Dell Inspiron 5000
On Friday 25 February 2005 07:10, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Martin Stiaszny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.02.24.2335 +0100]: Come again? I was never even asked that question by the installer. Do you mean the bootable flag for the partition? I tried with that both set and unset, and it hung in the same place. Okay, sorry. I am myself totally unacquainted with normal mode, so maybe someone else can take this on? Well, it asks the question in two stages. The first question grub-installer asks (in any mode) is do you want to install GRUB in the MBR of the first hard disk in your system. If you answer 'no', you will be asked to provide the partition grub should use instead (either in (hdx,x) or /dev/[hs]dn notation). Just tried expert install; I see can you can choose GRUB or Lilo, except I never made it that far - for some reason, the expert install cannot start the PCMCIA card services, which is odd, because the automated install does so just fine. There is absolutely no reason for the installer to behave any differently in an expert installation than in a default installation if accept the default answers that are provided for questions not asked in a default installation. Cheers, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#296695: CD net-install won't work on Dell Inspiron 5000
Well, it asks the question in two stages. The first question grub-installer asks (in any mode) is do you want to install GRUB in the MBR of the first hard disk in your system. If you answer 'no', you will be asked to provide the partition grub should use instead (either in (hdx,x) or /dev/[hs]dn notation). Well, maybe this is related to the problem. From my previous installs of debian, I was expecting the installer to ask me this and was very surprised when it didn't this time. I had assumed you guys had simply taken that question out of the normal install to make it less confusing to non-technical users. Just tried expert install; I see can you can choose GRUB or Lilo, except I never made it that far - for some reason, the expert install cannot start the PCMCIA card services, which is odd, because the automated install does so just fine. There is absolutely no reason for the installer to behave any differently in an expert installation than in a default installation if accept the default answers that are provided for questions not asked in a default installation. That's what I would have thought, but in this case, it is clearly different. I ran through it a couple of times in both modes to make sure it wasn't a fluke. The expert install fails on the PCMCIA card services every time, whereas the normal install makes it all the way to GRUB before it fails. But, before we look at the PCMCIA issue, I was flipping through the consoles, and on console 4, this was the last message it printed out before hanging: linux-boot-prober: debug: linux detected by /usr/lib/linux-boot-prober/50mounted-tests - martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#296695: CD net-install won't work on Dell Inspiron 5000
also sprach Martin Stiaszny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.02.24.1237 +0100]: the old linux distro (18 GB partition) is using ext2. The installer formatted the new debian partition as ext3. I chose the automated install and just let the installer do its thing. Did you install into the MBR or the partition? (hd0,x) or (hd0) ? Regarding the install with lilo - I do not know. I was not aware you could tell the installer to use lilo instead of GRUB. Does one do that via the expert install? I will check that out when I get back to the office tomorrow. The way to do it is to go to tty2 and kill the grub-install process. Maybe you can figure out what the problem is first, though. Once grub-install gets killed, you will be taken to the main menu of the installer, from which you can then choose to use Lilo instead. -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#296695: CD net-install won't work on Dell Inspiron 5000
Did you install into the MBR or the partition? (hd0,x) or (hd0) ? Come again? I was never even asked that question by the installer. Do you mean the bootable flag for the partition? I tried with that both set and unset, and it hung in the same place. Just tried expert install; I see can you can choose GRUB or Lilo, except I never made it that far - for some reason, the expert install cannot start the PCMCIA card services, which is odd, because the automated install does so just fine. The way to do it is to go to tty2 and kill the grub-install process. Maybe you can figure out what the problem is first, though. Once grub-install gets killed, you will be taken to the main menu of the installer, from which you can then choose to use Lilo instead. So I tried this instead. Except when I kill it, it simply restarts and proceeds to try to install GRUB all over again. So who I be responding to? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], you, or all of the above? thanks, - martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#296695: CD net-install won't work on Dell Inspiron 5000
Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/sarge-i386-netinst.iso (circa 1 pm today, which, looking at your timestamps, might actually be the Feb. 22nd cut) uname -a: Linux ortelius 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Thu Jan 20 10:55:08 JST 2005 i686 unknown Date: 2 pm this afternoon Method: burned sarge-i386-netinst.iso to CD Machine: Dell Inspiron 5000 Processor: intel Memory: enough Root Device: IDE/hda 20 GB Root Size/partition table: hda1 is the linux swap for the other distro hda2 is root for the other distro (ext2, ~18 GB) hda3 is root for the debian install (ext3, ~2 GB) hda5 is swap for the debian install ~130 MB Output of lspci and lspci -n: the installer has crashed; let me see if I can get it by booting to the other distro... (I was able to do uname -a before the crash) wow... this is a LOT of spew to type in (net doesn't work on that distro - hence debian. If this will actually help, let me know and I will do it) Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems:[O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system:[O] Install boot loader:[E] Reboot: [ ] Comments/Problems: I posted on debian-boot; I guess this is the Better Way to do it. Here is content of my post: I had this problem with sarge's RC2, so I grabbed the daily build for today, and the problem is still there. It is as follows: My friend has a Dell Inspiron 5000 laptop that he was(is) running slackware(?) on. I used GNU parted to shrink his slackware partition to make some free space. All that appears to have worked fine. However, when the installer tries to install GRUB it hangs on the screen that says: Installing GRUB boot loader 33% Determining GRUB boot device He was booting with LILO before, and I can only presume that it is sitting in the MBR. His other distro still boots fine, so the hardware is A-OK. cheers, - martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
