Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
tags 307327 +upstream reassign linux-2.6 thanks On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:20:56PM +0200, Stelian Pop wrote: > Le vendredi 12 août 2005 à 15:03 +0100, Jochen Voss a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 07:09:55PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > [the fn key patch] seems fine enough to me, has is been submitted > > > upstream? > > > > I don't know. In > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/07/msg00370.html > > > > Stelian Pop (CCed) asked whether he should push this into the mainstream > > kernel, but I do not know the final outcome of this. Stelian: what is > > the current state of this? > > The current state is that the patch has been discussed on lkml and in > private with Vojtech Pavlik, the kernel input subsystem maintainter. > > He didn't agree to the patch, considering that the "right control" key > assignment is a hack and the key should send the "function key" keycode > instead. > > A patch implementing this behaviour is already in the -mm kernel and it > is reasonable to think that it will be in 2.6.14. > > The Fn key can be easily assigned to any X modifier (including "right > control") using the standard xkb mappings. > > The only (big) downside is that the FN keycode will not be understood by > the classic X keyboard driver (no events in xev for example), unless the > new (and not upstream yet) input based X keyboard driver is used. > > I know Gentoo patched X in order to add this augmented driver, and that > X.org will include the driver in a future release. But until then, this > will require a patched X server. Hi, I am marking this bug as +upstream, as it has clearly been brought to their attention. And I am also reassigning it to linux-2.6, which is currently 2.6.12, and will soon enough be 2.6.13. I'm guessing those upstreams don't have the -mm accepted fix, but that it will appear sooner or later. If someone wants to dig that patch out I don't see why it couldn't be include din the debian package, our main requirement is that it is either upstream, or has a clear path for being accepted upstream, and thus we don't have to maintain divergance from upstream indefinately. As for the xev, X, X.org, problem. That needs to be brought up with their maintainers. I've debian-x@lists.debian.org, I think thats the right place. -- Horms
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
Le samedi 13 août 2005 à 07:54 +0100, Jochen Voss a écrit : > > The only (big) downside is that the FN keycode will not be understood by > > the classic X keyboard driver (no events in xev for example), unless the > > new (and not upstream yet) input based X keyboard driver is used. > > What about the Linux console? "dumpkeys -l | grep -i fn" gives no output > at all. Will be also need a patched version of console-tools? I have no idea on this matter. showkey seems to recognize the Fn key as a suite of keycodes (escape something ?), but I have no idea if this can be assigned to a modifier key under the console. Stelian. -- Stelian Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
Hello Stelian, On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 09:20:56PM +0200, Stelian Pop wrote: > The current state is ... Thank you for clarifying this. > The only (big) downside is that the FN keycode will not be understood by > the classic X keyboard driver (no events in xev for example), unless the > new (and not upstream yet) input based X keyboard driver is used. What about the Linux console? "dumpkeys -l | grep -i fn" gives no output at all. Will be also need a patched version of console-tools? All the best, Jochen -- http://seehuhn.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
Le vendredi 12 août 2005 à 15:03 +0100, Jochen Voss a écrit : > Hello, > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 07:09:55PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > [the fn key patch] seems fine enough to me, has is been submitted upstream? > > I don't know. In > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/07/msg00370.html > > Stelian Pop (CCed) asked whether he should push this into the mainstream > kernel, but I do not know the final outcome of this. Stelian: what is > the current state of this? The current state is that the patch has been discussed on lkml and in private with Vojtech Pavlik, the kernel input subsystem maintainter. He didn't agree to the patch, considering that the "right control" key assignment is a hack and the key should send the "function key" keycode instead. A patch implementing this behaviour is already in the -mm kernel and it is reasonable to think that it will be in 2.6.14. The Fn key can be easily assigned to any X modifier (including "right control") using the standard xkb mappings. The only (big) downside is that the FN keycode will not be understood by the classic X keyboard driver (no events in xev for example), unless the new (and not upstream yet) input based X keyboard driver is used. I know Gentoo patched X in order to add this augmented driver, and that X.org will include the driver in a future release. But until then, this will require a patched X server. Stelian. -- Stelian Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
Hello, On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 07:09:55PM +0900, Horms wrote: > [the fn key patch] seems fine enough to me, has is been submitted upstream? I don't know. In http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/07/msg00370.html Stelian Pop (CCed) asked whether he should push this into the mainstream kernel, but I do not know the final outcome of this. Stelian: what is the current state of this? I hope this helps, Jochen -- http://seehuhn.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
hello jochen, On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 10:55:53AM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:37:28AM +0200, Maximilian Attems wrote: > > but acpi generic hotkey support will still need some more release cycles > > in order to get working. > What is "acpi generic hotkey support"? > > Note that Apple PowerBooks don't use ACPI and that the fn key > is not a "hotkey" but just another modifier key. Because > the keyboard has not enough keys, you need fn to access, > for example, the page-up and page-down keys. urrgs sorry for my sloppy read. associated those funky latop keys with acpi semi-automatically. indeed the generic hotkey support is intended as better acpi support for laptops. there is a nice paper on it in the ols proceedings volume 1 p.51 -> http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2005/ wont help you for sure. -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:01:20AM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > Hello Horms, > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 06:56:42PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > whats the correct hostname for that URL? > > Sorry, the link should have been > > http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index.html#fnkey-patch That seems fine enough to me, has is been submitted upstream? Thats really the prefered path for features getting into Debian's kernel. -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 10:30:17AM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > Upstream 2.6.12 still needs the patch from > http://localhost/~voss/comp/powerbook/index.html#fnkey-patch localhost? > As I compile my own kernels, I did not check whether the debian > package contains a fix. What is the upstream status of this patch? Bastian -- I have never understood the female capacity to avoid a direct answer to any question. -- Spock, "This Side of Paradise", stardate 3417.3 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
Hello Horms, On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 06:56:42PM +0900, Horms wrote: > whats the correct hostname for that URL? Sorry, the link should have been http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index.html#fnkey-patch I hope this helps, Jochen -- http://seehuhn.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
Hello Maximilian, On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:37:28AM +0200, Maximilian Attems wrote: > but acpi generic hotkey support will still need some more release cycles > in order to get working. What is "acpi generic hotkey support"? Note that Apple PowerBooks don't use ACPI and that the fn key is not a "hotkey" but just another modifier key. Because the keyboard has not enough keys, you need fn to access, for example, the page-up and page-down keys. All the best, Jochen -- http://seehuhn.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:37:28AM +0200, Maximilian Attems wrote: > reassign 307327 linux-2.6 > stop > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 10:30:17AM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:08:50AM +0200, Maximilian Attems wrote: > > > what't the state of that in linux image 2.6.12? > > > any progress.. > > Upstream 2.6.12 still needs the patch from > > http://localhost/~voss/comp/powerbook/index.html#fnkey-patch > > As I compile my own kernels, I did not check whether the debian > > package contains a fix. > > ok thanks for quick feedback, reassign to latest package in unstable. > but acpi generic hotkey support will still need some more release cycles > in order to get working. Jochen, whats the correct hostname for that URL? -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
reassign 307327 linux-2.6 stop On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 10:30:17AM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:08:50AM +0200, Maximilian Attems wrote: > > what't the state of that in linux image 2.6.12? > > any progress.. > Upstream 2.6.12 still needs the patch from > http://localhost/~voss/comp/powerbook/index.html#fnkey-patch > As I compile my own kernels, I did not check whether the debian > package contains a fix. ok thanks for quick feedback, reassign to latest package in unstable. but acpi generic hotkey support will still need some more release cycles in order to get working. -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
Hello, On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:08:50AM +0200, Maximilian Attems wrote: > what't the state of that in linux image 2.6.12? > any progress.. Upstream 2.6.12 still needs the patch from http://localhost/~voss/comp/powerbook/index.html#fnkey-patch As I compile my own kernels, I did not check whether the debian package contains a fix. All the best, Jochen -- http://seehuhn.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
tags 307327 moreinfo thanks what't the state of that in linux image 2.6.12? any progress.. -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#307327: kernel-source-2.6.11: [powerpc] fn-key does not work on new powerbooks
Package: kernel-source-2.6.11 Severity: normal Hello, with release 2.6.11-1 of kernel-image-2.6.11-powerpc the fn-key does not work on post-February-2005 powerbooks. It does neither emit a scan code on its own, nor does it change the behaviour of other keys. The problem can be fixed with the Johannes Berg's patch from http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/PowerBook/special_buttons . Kernel specific information about my machine (dmesg output etc.) can be found at http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/2.6.11-1/ , general information (about hardware, etc) is at http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/ . I hope this helps, Jochen -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Kernel: Linux 2.6.11-powerpc Locale: LANG=en_GB.iso885915, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.iso885915 (charmap=ISO-8859-15) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
