Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
tags 316297 + pending thanks Hello The mailx command will soon be optional and the package thus no longer depending on mailx. bye, -christian- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 12:41 +0100, Christian Hammers wrote:
> reopen 316297
> tags 316297 - moreinfo
> notfound 316297 4.0.24-10
> thanks
>
> Hello Marcos
>
> On 2006-01-18 Marcos Marado wrote:
> > > Those bugs were tagged unreproducible and were waiting for more user
> > > input for too long, are for an experimental version or are change
> > > requests specific to MySQL 4.0 which will vanish soon (and cannot get
> > > into Sarge). Closing them therefore.
> >
> > This particular bug is reproducible, and is about an issue existent on
> > all mysql-server packages: 4.0, 4.1 and 5.0.
>
> Ok, it was tagged wrong, I reopen it. The issue will not be fixed though.
> (regarding the "robustness", all errors are although been logged to syslog,
> too!)
Sorry, I may not understand what you really want to say with this. Do
you mean with "will not be fixed" that you see that the dependence on
mailx isn't really necessary and shouldn't be obligatory but only
recommended? If so, why is it not going to be fixed? Lack of
time/man-power/interest in doing so? Or on the other hand you don't see
this as a problem? If not, why do you think that, unlike other distro's,
Debian should force mysql-server users to have mailx?
Thanks,
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Marcos Marado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sonaecom ISP
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Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
First of all, sorry for the previous e-mails: I had some problems with
my e-mail client... :-(
Christian Hammers wrote:
> Those bugs were tagged unreproducible and were waiting for more user
> input for too long, are for an experimental version or are change
> requests specific to MySQL 4.0 which will vanish soon (and cannot get
> into Sarge). Closing them therefore.
This particular bug isn't unreproducible, isn't for an experimental
version and isn't about 4.0 but all versions of MySQL, including 4.1
and 5.0.
The big issue on this bug is one that has been being discussed lot's of
times on the mailing lists and forums, which is, as Dan Woodard wrote:
> While having a mail program is useful, it is hard to see why it
> should be essential for a database. Surely it is more robust simply
> to log errors or problems in a log file rather than to try to email
> them? My suggestion would be to allow mysql-server to be or remain
> installed without mailx so that the MTA could be changed without
> removing mysql-server.
Or, in other words, Debian should follow the steps of several other
distros on this issue, and mysql-server should NOT depend on mailx since
it isn't needed for the server to run, and because lot's of people will
want mysql-server in a server without having a MTA.
Christian Hammers also wrote:
> mailx can be expected to be able to be present there's no reason to
> workaround this (other packages would probably stumble over this, too)
but I don't see how "mailx is expected to be present" and "other
packages probably do the same"justifies mysql-server's dependency on
mailx. It should be a recommended package, but not a necessary one.
Best regards,
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Marcos Marado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sonaecom ISP
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Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
reopen 316297 tags 316297 - moreinfo notfound 316297 4.0.24-10 thanks Hello Marcos On 2006-01-18 Marcos Marado wrote: > > Those bugs were tagged unreproducible and were waiting for more user > > input for too long, are for an experimental version or are change > > requests specific to MySQL 4.0 which will vanish soon (and cannot get > > into Sarge). Closing them therefore. > > This particular bug is reproducible, and is about an issue existent on > all mysql-server packages: 4.0, 4.1 and 5.0. Ok, it was tagged wrong, I reopen it. The issue will not be fixed though. (regarding the "robustness", all errors are although been logged to syslog, too!) bye, -christian- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
Christian Hammers wrote: > Those bugs were tagged unreproducible and were waiting for more user > input for too long, are for an experimental version or are change > requests specific to MySQL 4.0 which will vanish soon (and cannot get > into Sarge). Closing them therefore. This particular bug is reproducible, and is about an issue existent on all mysql-server packages: 4.0, 4.1 and 5.0. This big issue here is, like Dan Woodard said, that: > While having a mail program is useful, it is hard to see why it should be > essential for a database. Surely it is more robust simply to log errors or > problems in a log file rather than to try to email them? My suggestion would > be to allow mysql-server to be or remain installed without mailx so that the MTA could be changed without removing mysql-server. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
Christian Hammers wrote: > Those bugs were tagged unreproducible and were waiting for more user > input for too long, are for an experimental version or are change > requests specific to MySQL 4.0 which will vanish soon (and cannot get > into Sarge). Closing them therefore. This particular bug isn't unreproducible, is not for an experimental version and doesn't affect only MySQL 4.0, but also 4.1 and 5.0 packages. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
Christian Hammers wrote: > Those bugs were tagged unreproducible and were waiting for more user > input for too long, are for an experimental version or are change > requests specific to MySQL 4.0 which will vanish soon (and cannot get > into Sarge). Closing them therefore. This particular bug isn't unreproducible, isn't for an experimental version and isn't about 4.0 but all versions of MySQL, including 4.1 and 5.0. The big issue on this bug is one that has been being discussed lot's of times on the mailing lists and forums, which is: signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
tags 316297 + moreinfo retitle 316297 Installation of qmail removes mailx thanks Hello Dan On 2005-06-29 Dan Woodard wrote: > Because the mysql-server package depends on mailx, whenever I try to change > from exim4 to qmail, mailx is removed, and mysql-server is also removed, I cannot see why any MTA should conflict with mailx which even has "Priority: important" which means according to the Debian Policy: "The important packages are just a bare minimum of commonly-expected and necessary tools." So as mailx can be expected to be able to be present there's no reason to workaround this (other packages would probably stumble over this, too) Try finding the cause of its removal, most likely your qmail package does not have a "Provides: mail-transport-agent" field... When you find the reason tell me then I reassign the bug report to this package, else I will close the bug report in a week or so. bye, -christian- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#316297: dependency on mailx causes removal of mysql-server when MTA is changed
Package: mysql-server Version: 4.0.24-10 Severity: normal Because the mysql-server package depends on mailx, whenever I try to change from exim4 to qmail, mailx is removed, and mysql-server is also removed, crashing web services. While having a mail program is useful, it is hard to see why it should be essential for a database. Surely it is more robust simply to log errors or problems in a log file rather than to try to email them? My suggestion would be to allow mysql-server to be or remain installed without mailx so that the MTA could be changed without removing mysql-server. It is an excellent package otherwise. Thanks, Dan Woodard -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.4.25-1-386 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages mysql-server depends on: ii adduser 3.63Add and remove users and groups ii debconf 1.4.30.13 Debian configuration management sy ii libc62.3.2.ds1-22GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libdbi-perl 1.46-6 Perl5 database interface by Tim Bu ii libgcc1 1:3.4.3-12 GCC support library ii libmysqlclient12 4.0.24-10 mysql database client library ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.5-8 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libwrap0 7.6.dbs-8 Wietse Venema's TCP wrappers libra ii mailx1:8.1.2-0.20040524cvs-4 A simple mail user agent ii mysql-client 4.0.24-10 mysql database client binaries ii mysql-common 4.0.24-10 mysql database common files (e.g. ii passwd 1:4.0.3-31sarge1change and administer password and ii perl 5.8.4-8 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction ii psmisc 21.5-1 Utilities that use the proc filesy ii zlib1g 1:1.2.2-3 compression library - runtime -- debconf information: mysql-server/nis_warning: mysql-server/really_downgrade_from_41: false mysql-server/mysql_update_hints1: * mysql-server/start_on_boot: true mysql-server/postrm_remove_databases: false * mysql-server/mysql_install_db_notes: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
