Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hello

Am Fr den 19. Aug 2005 um 22:34 schrieb Adeodato Simó:
  Severity: grave
 
  The package has no Binary, no /usr/share/doc/kdm or other necesarry
  stuff. I wonder why nobody saws this before.
 
   Please check your facts before submitting bugs at severity grave.
   Thanks. (See attached transcript.)

Well, if the packagee do not include any binary and no doc files then
this IS a grave bug.

However,

   Your kdm package is obviously in state 'deinstall ok config-files'.
   I'm closing this bug.

kdm was in state installed on my system. This strange state that no real
files are in the package was the result of an upgrade several days ago.

Now when I try to reinstall kdm by apt there are many unresolved
dependencies. And a try to do this with dselect will deinstall kdm and
give no way to install it.

 % md5sum kdm_4%3a3.3.2-1_i386.deb
 8bdda1b454c8ba78ec91accf4866b667  kdm_4%3a3.3.2-1_i386.deb

Thats the correct md5sum

Regards
   Klaus Ethgen
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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Saturday, 20 August 2005 09:35, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
 Hello

 Am Fr den 19. Aug 2005 um 22:34 schrieb Adeodato Simó:
   Severity: grave
  
   The package has no Binary, no /usr/share/doc/kdm or other necesarry
   stuff. I wonder why nobody saws this before.
 
Please check your facts before submitting bugs at severity grave.
Thanks. (See attached transcript.)

 Well, if the packagee do not include any binary and no doc files then
 this IS a grave bug.
Sure, but the fact is that the package include the binary and the doc files, 
you just need to install it (not possible in Sid just now because of other 
issues).

 kdm was in state installed on my system. This strange state that no real
 files are in the package was the result of an upgrade several days ago.
Can you tell me how can you have kdm installed in your system without having 
kdelibs, kdelibs-bin or qt installed?

 Versions of packages kdm depends on:
 ...
 pn  kdebase-bin   none (no description available)
 pn  kdelibs4  none (no description available)
 ...
 pn  libqt3c102-mt none (no description available)

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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hello,

Am Sa den 20. Aug 2005 um 11:36 schrieb Isaac Clerencia:
 Can you tell me how can you have kdm installed in your system without having 
 kdelibs, kdelibs-bin or qt installed?

I don't know. This was the result of a normal apt-get update; apt-get
dist-upgrade call.

Gruß
   Klaus
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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Klaus Ethgen [Sat, 20 Aug 2005 09:35:30 +0200]:

 Well, if the packagee do not include any binary and no doc files then
 this IS a grave bug.

  Sure, but it is not the case as demonstrated by my transcript.

Your kdm package is obviously in state 'deinstall ok config-files'.
I'm closing this bug.

 kdm was in state installed on my system. This strange state that no real
 files are in the package was the result of an upgrade several days ago.

 Now when I try to reinstall kdm by apt there are many unresolved
 dependencies. And a try to do this with dselect will deinstall kdm and
 give no way to install it.

  This is the best _sincere_ advice I can give to you: stop using
  unstable.

  Have a nice day,

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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Saturday, 20 August 2005 13:44, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
 Hello,

 Am Sa den 20. Aug 2005 um 11:36 schrieb Isaac Clerencia:
  Can you tell me how can you have kdm installed in your system without
  having kdelibs, kdelibs-bin or qt installed?

 I don't know. This was the result of a normal apt-get update; apt-get
 dist-upgrade call.
Adeodato asked some days ago to not dist-upgrade your KDE until he tells 
otherwise. You can recover a working KDE by following some advices in 
messages sent to the debian-kde mailing list in the last days.

Best regards

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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Klaus Ethgen [Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:16:10 +0200]:

 Am Sa den 20. Aug 2005 um 13:48 schrieb Adeodato Simó:
This is the best _sincere_ advice I can give to you: stop using
unstable.

 Well, I have no problemes by myself using unstable but if there is
 ^^^
 something not working this is a bug and I will report them if it is not
  ^^^
^
^

No, it is not _always_ a bug. And this time IS NOT.

 still reported and not fixed with some uploads.

 If no one is reporting bugs in unstable then buggy software goes to
 stable and there will be no sense for unstable anymore.

  Sure, but there is NO BUG this time.

 Unfortunality there is a tag testing but no tag sid or unstable when
 reporting bugs.

  Check your facts: there is.


* Klaus Ethgen [Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:17:48 +0200]:

 By the way, it is no problem for me working arround bugs. But I think,
 reporting bugs to help finding and finaly solve them is a way to improve
 the quality of debian.

  Of course, and we welcome good bug reports. But there is NO BUG this
  time.

  Have you read the following mail? If not, please do immediately:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/08/msg00089.html


  P.S.: There is no bug.

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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Sa den 20. Aug 2005 um 13:48 schrieb Adeodato Simó:
   This is the best _sincere_ advice I can give to you: stop using
   unstable.

Well, I have no problemes by myself using unstable but if there is
something not working this is a bug and I will report them if it is not
still reported and not fixed with some uploads.

If no one is reporting bugs in unstable then buggy software goes to
stable and there will be no sense for unstable anymore.

Unfortunality there is a tag testing but no tag sid or unstable when
reporting bugs.

   Have a nice day,

You too.

Gruß
   Klaus
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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Sa den 20. Aug 2005 um 13:48 schrieb Adeodato Simó:
   This is the best _sincere_ advice I can give to you: stop using
   unstable.

By the way, it is no problem for me working arround bugs. But I think,
reporting bugs to help finding and finaly solve them is a way to improve
the quality of debian.

Gruß
   Klaus
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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Saturday, 20 August 2005 14:16, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
 Am Sa den 20. Aug 2005 um 13:48 schrieb Adeodato Simó:
This is the best _sincere_ advice I can give to you: stop using
unstable.

 Well, I have no problemes by myself using unstable but if there is
 something not working this is a bug and I will report them if it is not
 still reported and not fixed with some uploads.

 If no one is reporting bugs in unstable then buggy software goes to
 stable and there will be no sense for unstable anymore.

 Unfortunality there is a tag testing but no tag sid or unstable when
 reporting bugs.
Everything you have said makes sense when you track Debian development and are 
aware of the current status of unstable.

Just now unstable is enjoying the C++ transition. During the transition, as 
explained by Adeodato in a message some weeks ago, KDE is *expected* to be 
un-dist-upgradable for some weeks. In that message Adeodato explicitly told 
to not dist-upgrade KDE.

The facts are:
a) you run apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade (against the previous 
advice). Of course, you didn't checked the output of apt-get, so you didn't 
realized it was uninstalling lots of packages
b) as a consecuence of a), you broke your KDE installation, found that the 
package kdm didn't have a binary (damn!, it had been deinstalled in a)) and 
reported it as a bug without checking if the package was installed
c) you keep arguing and blaming others of your faults

So the point is: NO. Reporting problems already known, announced and expected 
by the developers doesn't help at all.

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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-20 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Sa den 20. Aug 2005 um 14:00 schrieb Isaac Clerencia:
 Adeodato asked some days ago to not dist-upgrade your KDE until he tells 
 otherwise. You can recover a working KDE by following some advices in 
 messages sent to the debian-kde mailing list in the last days.

Sorry, not all are in debian-kde list.

Gruß
   Klaus
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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-19 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Package: kdm
Version: 4:3.3.2-1
Severity: grave

dpkg -L kdm:
/var/lib/kdm
/etc/kde3/kdm
/etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.options
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xreset
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xstartup
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xwilling
/etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc
/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
/etc/pam.d/kdm-np
/etc/pam.d/kdm
/etc/logrotate.d/kdm
/etc/init.d/kdm

The package has no Binary, no /usr/share/doc/kdm or other necesarry
stuff. I wonder why nobody saws this before.

- -- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (800, 'unstable'), (50, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.4.31
Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to 
de_DE)

Versions of packages kdm depends on:
ii  debconf   1.4.57 Debian configuration management sy
pn  kdebase-bin   none (no description available)
pn  kdelibs4  none (no description available)
ii  libart-2.0-2  2.3.17-1   Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libc6 2.3.5-3GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libfam0c102   2.7.0-7client library to control the FAM 
ii  libgcc1   1:4.0.1-5  GCC support library
ii  libice6   6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libidn11  0.5.18-1   GNU libidn library, implementation
ii  libpam-runtime0.76-23Runtime support for the PAM librar
ii  libpam0g  0.76-23Pluggable Authentication Modules l
ii  libpng12-01.2.8rel-1 PNG library - runtime
pn  libqt3c102-mt none (no description available)
ii  libsm66.8.2.dfsg.1-5 X Window System Session Management
ii  libstdc++51:3.3.6-8  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-6  6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxext6  6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  libxrender1   1:0.9.0-2  X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxtst6  6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 X Window System event recording an
ii  xbase-clients 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 miscellaneous X clients
ii  xlibs 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 X Window System client libraries m
ii  zlib1g1:1.2.3-3  compression library - runtime

Versions of packages kdm recommends:
ii  logrotate 3.7.1-1Log rotation utility

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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
tag 324018 + unreproducible
thanks

Le Ven 19 Août 2005 21:58, Klaus Ethgen a écrit :
 Package: kdm
 Version: 4:3.3.2-1
 Severity: grave

 dpkg -L kdm:
[...]

 The package has no Binary, no /usr/share/doc/kdm or other necesarry
 stuff. I wonder why nobody saws this before.

maybe you dl-ed a bad debian package ? I just get the one on 
http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/ and I have :


[madcoder hades] dpkg --contents kdm_3.3.2-1_i386.deb|grep bin\/kdm$
-rwxr-xr-x root/root114392 2005-01-23 17:14:45 ./usr/bin/kdm


I suggest you to :

apt-get clean
apt-get install --reinstall kdm

and see if the problem persist
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Bug#324018: kdm does not have the binary in the package anymore

2005-08-19 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Klaus Ethgen [Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:58:07 +0200]:

 Package: kdm
 Version: 4:3.3.2-1
 Severity: grave

 The package has no Binary, no /usr/share/doc/kdm or other necesarry
 stuff. I wonder why nobody saws this before.

  Please check your facts before submitting bugs at severity grave.
  Thanks. (See attached transcript.)

 dpkg -L kdm:
 /var/lib/kdm
 /etc/kde3/kdm
 /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.options
 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess
 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xreset
 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers
 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession
 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup
 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xstartup
 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xwilling
 /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc
 /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
 /etc/pam.d/kdm-np
 /etc/pam.d/kdm
 /etc/logrotate.d/kdm
 /etc/init.d/kdm

 Versions of packages kdm depends on:
 pn  kdebase-bin   none (no description available)
 pn  kdelibs4  none (no description available)
 pn  libqt3c102-mt none (no description available)

  Your kdm package is obviously in state 'deinstall ok config-files'.
  I'm closing this bug.

% aptitude download kdm=4:3.3.2-1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Get:1 http://mirror etch/main kdm 4:3.3.2-1 [417kB]
Fetched 417kB in 0s (2280kB/s)

% md5sum kdm_4%3a3.3.2-1_i386.deb
8bdda1b454c8ba78ec91accf4866b667  kdm_4%3a3.3.2-1_i386.deb

% dpkg -c kdm_4%3a3.3.2-1_i386.deb | grep /usr/bin/kdm$
-rwxr-xr-x root/root114392 2005-01-23 17:14:45 ./usr/bin/kdm

% dpkg -c kdm_4%3a3.3.2-1_i386.deb | grep /usr/share/doc/kdm
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2005-01-23 17:14:46 ./usr/share/doc/kdm/
-rw-r--r-- root/root   707 2005-01-23 16:25:25 
./usr/share/doc/kdm/NEWS.Debian.gz
-rw-r--r-- root/root  2840 2005-01-23 16:25:25 
./usr/share/doc/kdm/README.Debian
-rw-r--r-- root/root   904 2005-01-23 16:25:25 ./usr/share/doc/kdm/copyright
-rw-r--r-- root/root  6830 2004-08-05 20:57:03 ./usr/share/doc/kdm/README.gz
-rw-r--r-- root/root 17941 2005-01-23 16:25:25 
./usr/share/doc/kdm/changelog.Debian.gz

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Adeodato Simó
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A celebrity is a person who works hard all his life to become well known,
then wears dark glasses to avoid being recognized.
-- Fred Allen



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