Bug#326004: reopen the bug

2005-09-15 Thread Ruben Porras
reopen 326004
reassign 326004 linux-image-2.6-686
severity 326004 wishlist
Thanks

The bug is real, so I think you shouldn't close it, at least leave it as
wishlist and close it when the linux kernel gets support for my device.

Also, would you be so kind of pointing me to somewhere when I can read
what the problem is and its status?

Thanks.



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Bug#326004: reopen the bug

2005-09-15 Thread Horms
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:51:15AM +0200, Ruben Porras wrote:
 reopen 326004
 reassign 326004 linux-image-2.6-686
 severity 326004 wishlist
 Thanks
 
 The bug is real, so I think you shouldn't close it, at least leave it as
 wishlist and close it when the linux kernel gets support for my device.
 
 Also, would you be so kind of pointing me to somewhere when I can read
 what the problem is and its status?

First I'd like to come out and say, as having the BTS as a store
for a list of unimplemented features greatly diminishes the
useful ness of the BTS as a tool to track what the debian
kernel team is working on with regards to the kernel.

But thats just my opinion, and the BTS is already has
so many bugs its of little use, so one more isn't going
to make any difference.

I'm thinging that if the use of the BTS is really to allow
users to track all problems in a package, its probably
useful to have a separate, but linked BTS, that allows
the maintainers to track what they are actually working on.

Ok, enough about that.

In answer to your question about the status of support for
SATA ATAPI (which I guess is the problem) is being handled by
the upstream SATA maintainers, the toplevel MAINTAINERS file
in the kernel tree lists them as:

  SERIAL ATA (SATA) SUBSYSTEM:
  P:  Jeff Garzik
  M:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  L:  linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
  S:  Supported

I sent Jeff a mail about this recently, in which he explained
that SATA ATAPI was not ready, and it would be enabled when it
is. However he did not provide any additional details. I'd suggest
the archives of the linux-ide list as a starting point.

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Bug#326004: reopen the bug

2005-09-15 Thread Ruben Porras
El jue, 15-09-2005 a las 18:19 +0900, Horms escribió:
 On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:51:15AM +0200, Ruben Porras wrote:
  reopen 326004
  reassign 326004 linux-image-2.6-686
  severity 326004 wishlist
  Thanks
  
  The bug is real, so I think you shouldn't close it, at least leave it as
  wishlist and close it when the linux kernel gets support for my device.
  
  Also, would you be so kind of pointing me to somewhere when I can read
  what the problem is and its status?
 
 First I'd like to come out and say, as having the BTS as a store
 for a list of unimplemented features greatly diminishes the
 useful ness of the BTS as a tool to track what the debian
 kernel team is working on with regards to the kernel.

you could use the new user defined tags to mark the bugs you are working
on, but I suppose you know it already.

 But thats just my opinion, and the BTS is already has
 so many bugs its of little use, so one more isn't going
 to make any difference.

While I agree with you tat there is no point in filling a bug asking the
maintainer of your favourite MUA to implement a way to make your mail
address and name blink in the emails while you read them I think this
bug is not of little use, only it's really hard to fix, you are right
that this need to be done upstream.

rantFor example, due to this bug I can't install debian using CD-ROM
without taking especial measures, if we add that the NIC and the WLAN
didn't work also out of the box.../rant

   SERIAL ATA (SATA) SUBSYSTEM:
   P:  Jeff Garzik
   M:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   L:  linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
   S:  Supported
 
 I sent Jeff a mail about this recently, in which he explained
 that SATA ATAPI was not ready, and it would be enabled when it
 is. However he did not provide any additional details. I'd suggest
 the archives of the linux-ide list as a starting point.

Yes, you are right, it seems thah SATA ATAPI isn't ready, but with my
hardware its enough to change in include/linux/libata.h
 
#undef ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI /* define to enable ATAPI support */ 
to 
#define ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI /* define to enable ATAPI support */

and recompile the Debian kernel. I can read/burn CDs and DVDs. So, its
enough for me at the moment. I'll try to close the bug when a kernel
that has ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI activated enters Debian if no one else do it.

Thanks.




Bug#326004: reopen the bug

2005-09-15 Thread Horms
tag 326004 +upstream
thanks

On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:24:58PM +0200, Ruben Porras wrote:
 El jue, 15-09-2005 a las 18:19 +0900, Horms escribió:
  On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:51:15AM +0200, Ruben Porras wrote:
   reopen 326004
   reassign 326004 linux-image-2.6-686
   severity 326004 wishlist
   Thanks
   
   The bug is real, so I think you shouldn't close it, at least leave it as
   wishlist and close it when the linux kernel gets support for my device.
   
   Also, would you be so kind of pointing me to somewhere when I can read
   what the problem is and its status?
  
  First I'd like to come out and say, as having the BTS as a store
  for a list of unimplemented features greatly diminishes the
  useful ness of the BTS as a tool to track what the debian
  kernel team is working on with regards to the kernel.
 
 you could use the new user defined tags to mark the bugs you are working
 on, but I suppose you know it already.

A few other people have suggested that, it sounds like a good solution.

  But thats just my opinion, and the BTS is already has
  so many bugs its of little use, so one more isn't going
  to make any difference.
 
 While I agree with you tat there is no point in filling a bug asking the
 maintainer of your favourite MUA to implement a way to make your mail
 address and name blink in the emails while you read them I think this
 bug is not of little use, only it's really hard to fix, you are right
 that this need to be done upstream.
 
 rantFor example, due to this bug I can't install debian using CD-ROM
 without taking especial measures, if we add that the NIC and the WLAN
 didn't work also out of the box.../rant
 
SERIAL ATA (SATA) SUBSYSTEM:
P:  Jeff Garzik
M:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
L:  linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
S:  Supported
  
  I sent Jeff a mail about this recently, in which he explained
  that SATA ATAPI was not ready, and it would be enabled when it
  is. However he did not provide any additional details. I'd suggest
  the archives of the linux-ide list as a starting point.
 
 Yes, you are right, it seems thah SATA ATAPI isn't ready, but with my
 hardware its enough to change in include/linux/libata.h
  
 #undef ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI /* define to enable ATAPI support */ 
 to 
 #define ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI /* define to enable ATAPI support */
 
 and recompile the Debian kernel. I can read/burn CDs and DVDs. So, its
 enough for me at the moment. I'll try to close the bug when a kernel
 that has ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI activated enters Debian if no one else do it.

I specifically asked Jeff if enabling the option as such in Debian
builds, or providing a configuration option to enable it through
make menuconfig was appropriate. He flatly said no, the code is not
ready, and it is that hard to enable for that reason.

I do sympathise that there are a lot of people that would benifit from
this option. But I can only take Jeff's advice, and leave it off 
for now. He had some farily unplesant remarks to make about
distributions that do turn it on, and frankly, he knows more about this
than I.

Rest assured, as soon as we start shipping a kernel that Jeff feels
can run SATA ATAPI, we will turn it on - well, someone might have
to remind us, things do slip through the craks. But right now
its an upstream issue. I'm tagging it as such in the BTS.
And other than working with upstram to get the code straightened out,
there isn't much that anyone can do about it.

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