Bug#327011: Thunderbird should use plain text for new accounts by default
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 04:57:32AM +0100, Peter J Ross wrote: Package: mozilla-thunderbird Version: 1.0.6-3 Severity: wishlist Hello. I notice that the default option in Thunderbird for each new account is to turn Compose messages in HTML format on. Would it be possible to change this setting to reflect normal email practice among Linux users and protect unwary new users from the consequences of sending html email where it's unwelcome? It seems that the setting is in /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/defaults/pref/mailnews.js (unless another file overrides it). pref(mail.identity.default.compose_html, true); The question is whether this really means that messages are send as html by default. If you compose as html and send plain text you get the behaviour that bold text is automatically surrounded by *, italic by / and underline by _. Further thunderbird converts unnumbered and numbered lists IIRC. So in this case composing as html is indeed a good option that anybody wants, right? You see that thunderbird really sends mail as html too by default? Maybe this is another setting? - Alexander p.s. please take care that the bug is listed as To: or CC: when replying to this mail (e.g. /reply-all/). -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack| : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#327011: Thunderbird should use plain text for new accounts by default
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 12:49:07PM +0200, Alexander Sack - Debian Bugmail wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 04:57:32AM +0100, Peter J Ross wrote: Package: mozilla-thunderbird Version: 1.0.6-3 Severity: wishlist Hello. I notice that the default option in Thunderbird for each new account is to turn Compose messages in HTML format on. Would it be possible to change this setting to reflect normal email practice among Linux users and protect unwary new users from the consequences of sending html email where it's unwelcome? It seems that the setting is in /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/defaults/pref/mailnews.js (unless another file overrides it). pref(mail.identity.default.compose_html, true); The question is whether this really means that messages are send as html by default. If you compose as html and send plain text you get the behaviour that bold text is automatically surrounded by *, italic by / and underline by _. Further thunderbird converts unnumbered and numbered lists IIRC. So in this case composing as html is indeed a good option that anybody wants, right? You see that thunderbird really sends mail as html too by default? Maybe this is another setting? Experiment shows that the behaviour is as you describe. Smiley icons are also converted to text equivalents. Even the option in the compose window to send as HTML is ignored unless the recipient is specified in preferences as willing to receive HTML. It's a very nice feature, but it isn't documented in the official FAQ or Tips, and didn't seem to be mentioned in bugzilla or mozillazine when I checked Google before reporting. In these circumstances, I don't think it's unreasonable for a user looking at account settings to assume that a message composed with HTML will be sent as HTML, and thus never know about the feature. However, that's an upstream documentation/usability issue, and the fault I thought I'd found doesn't exist. Thanks for the information. -- PJR :-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#327011: Thunderbird should use plain text for new accounts by default
tags 327011 + wontfix thanks ok, will keep it open and tag it wontfix so it gets documented for the future. Thanks for confirming this default behaviour. Since I rarely reset my production thunderbird its sometimes hard to remember the exact default behaviour. On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 01:01:52PM +0100, Peter J Ross wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 12:49:07PM +0200, Alexander Sack - Debian Bugmail wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 04:57:32AM +0100, Peter J Ross wrote: Package: mozilla-thunderbird Version: 1.0.6-3 Severity: wishlist Hello. I notice that the default option in Thunderbird for each new account is to turn Compose messages in HTML format on. Would it be possible to change this setting to reflect normal email practice among Linux users and protect unwary new users from the consequences of sending html email where it's unwelcome? It seems that the setting is in /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/defaults/pref/mailnews.js (unless another file overrides it). pref(mail.identity.default.compose_html, true); The question is whether this really means that messages are send as html by default. If you compose as html and send plain text you get the behaviour that bold text is automatically surrounded by *, italic by / and underline by _. Further thunderbird converts unnumbered and numbered lists IIRC. So in this case composing as html is indeed a good option that anybody wants, right? You see that thunderbird really sends mail as html too by default? Maybe this is another setting? Experiment shows that the behaviour is as you describe. Smiley icons are also converted to text equivalents. Even the option in the compose window to send as HTML is ignored unless the recipient is specified in preferences as willing to receive HTML. It's a very nice feature, but it isn't documented in the official FAQ or Tips, and didn't seem to be mentioned in bugzilla or mozillazine when I checked Google before reporting. In these circumstances, I don't think it's unreasonable for a user looking at account settings to assume that a message composed with HTML will be sent as HTML, and thus never know about the feature. However, that's an upstream documentation/usability issue, and the fault I thought I'd found doesn't exist. Thanks for the information. - Alexander p.s. please take care that the bug is listed as To: or CC: when replying to this mail (e.g. /reply-all/). -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack| : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#327011: Thunderbird should use plain text for new accounts by default
Package: mozilla-thunderbird Version: 1.0.6-3 Severity: wishlist Hello. I notice that the default option in Thunderbird for each new account is to turn Compose messages in HTML format on. Would it be possible to change this setting to reflect normal email practice among Linux users and protect unwary new users from the consequences of sending html email where it's unwelcome? It seems that the setting is in /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/defaults/pref/mailnews.js (unless another file overrides it). pref(mail.identity.default.compose_html, true); -- PJR :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
