Bug#332898: udev: mouse devices doesn't work anymore without hoplug
Package: udev Version: 0.070-3 Severity: important Neither usbmouse nor psmouse (for touchpad) drivers create their device when they'reloaded. It's a bit difficult to run X in these conditions. Regards, -- Package-specific info: -- /etc/udev/rules.d/: /etc/udev/rules.d/: total 4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2005-07-15 14:44 020_permissions.rules - ../permissions.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2005-09-30 11:22 025_libsane-extras.rules - ../libsane-extras.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2005-09-30 11:22 025_libsane.rules - ../libsane.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-09-07 15:17 050_hal-plugdev.rules - ../hal.rules -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120 2005-02-12 11:42 10-wacom.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2005-07-15 14:44 cd-aliases.rules - ../cd-aliases.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2005-07-15 14:44 udev.rules - ../udev.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2005-08-15 11:33 z20_persistent.rules - ../persistent.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-07-22 01:32 z50_run.rules - ../run.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2005-10-09 09:20 z55_hotplug.rules - ../hotplug.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2005-08-03 12:31 z60_alsa-utils.rules - ../alsa-utils.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2005-09-20 22:56 z60_hdparm.rules - ../hdparm.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2005-07-22 01:45 z60_usbmount.rules - ../usbmount.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2005-07-22 01:32 z70_hotplugd.rules - ../hotplugd.rules -- /sys/: /sys/block/hda/dev /sys/block/hdc/dev /sys/block/hdc/hdc1/dev /sys/block/hdc/hdc2/dev /sys/block/hdc/hdc3/dev /sys/block/hdc/hdc4/dev /sys/block/hdc/hdc5/dev /sys/block/ram0/dev /sys/block/ram10/dev /sys/block/ram11/dev /sys/block/ram12/dev /sys/block/ram13/dev /sys/block/ram14/dev /sys/block/ram15/dev /sys/block/ram1/dev /sys/block/ram2/dev /sys/block/ram3/dev /sys/block/ram4/dev /sys/block/ram5/dev /sys/block/ram6/dev /sys/block/ram7/dev /sys/block/ram8/dev /sys/block/ram9/dev /sys/class/misc/agpgart/dev /sys/class/misc/device-mapper/dev /sys/class/misc/hpet/dev /sys/class/misc/hw_random/dev /sys/class/nvidia/nvidia0/dev /sys/class/nvidia/nvidiactl/dev /sys/class/sound/adsp/dev /sys/class/sound/audio1/dev /sys/class/sound/audio/dev /sys/class/sound/controlC0/dev /sys/class/sound/controlC1/dev /sys/class/sound/dsp1/dev /sys/class/sound/dsp/dev /sys/class/sound/mixer1/dev /sys/class/sound/mixer/dev /sys/class/sound/pcmC0D0c/dev /sys/class/sound/pcmC0D0p/dev /sys/class/sound/pcmC0D1c/dev /sys/class/sound/pcmC0D2c/dev /sys/class/sound/pcmC0D3c/dev /sys/class/sound/pcmC0D4p/dev /sys/class/sound/pcmC1D0c/dev /sys/class/sound/pcmC1D0p/dev /sys/class/sound/timer/dev -- Kernel configuration: -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-1-686 Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages udev depends on: ii initscripts 2.86.ds1-4 Standard scripts needed for bootin ii libc6 2.3.5-6GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libselinux1 1.26-1 SELinux shared libraries ii lsb-base 3.0-9 Linux Standard Base 3.0 init scrip ii makedev 2.3.1-78 creates device files in /dev ii sed 4.1.4-4The GNU sed stream editor udev recommends no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#332898: udev: mouse devices doesn't work anymore without hoplug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Encolpe DEGOUTE a écrit : | Package: udev | Version: 0.070-3 | Severity: important | | | Neither usbmouse nor psmouse (for touchpad) drivers create their device | when they'reloaded. It's a bit difficult to run X in these conditions. I found this one: evdev and mousedev drivers were loaded by hotplug package and new udev version does not. - -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDSP34vFPzBBlIZMMRAgi5AJ9nffYlGxj0VRcGUm+9tC2uzIMlBQCcDI+U e67Ijl4FbtHXpm4IvmtUCTM= =PJgE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Bug#332874: Bug#332898: udev: mouse devices doesn't work anymore without hoplug
retitle 332898 serio hotplug broken? tag 332898 unreproducible help severity 332898 grave thanks On Oct 09, Encolpe DEGOUTE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither usbmouse nor psmouse (for touchpad) drivers create their device when they'reloaded. It's a bit difficult to run X in these conditions. Are the drivers actually being loaded? I do not see them in the sysfs files in your bug report. It appears that there is an error in /etc/udev/hotplug.rules, where SUBSYSTEM==input, BUS==serio, ENV{MODALIAS}!=?*, \ should be replaced with: SUBSYSTEM==serio, ENV{MODALIAS}!=?*, \ But another user tried this and it did not work for him. serio devices need some special handling because current kernels lack some some features, but the modalias_serio is supposed to work around this. I am not sure about how this should be fixed, because on my system serio hotplugging works. I wonder if this is related to the extreme modularization in the official Debian kernels (e.g. I know that a serio pseudo-event as currently generated by the kernel does not reach udev). -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#332898: udev: mouse devices doesn't work anymore without hoplug
On Oct 09, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this one: evdev and mousedev drivers were loaded by hotplug package and new udev version does not. Interesting. evdev is not supposed to be loaded even by hotplug (it's in the default blacklist), but what happens if you add this to the top of /etc/init.d/udev? modprobe mousedev sleep 1 -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#332898: udev: mouse devices doesn't work anymore without hoplug
Package: udev Version: 0.070-3 Followup-For: Bug #332898 I've hit the same problem with the new udev package this morning. The modules are not being loaded on my system. Adding psmouse mousedev to /etc/modules is an easy workaround, but not ideal since you shouldn't need to manually specify all the hardware you need modules loaded for (hotplug used to handle this fine). I have a ps2 mouse, but a friend has also hit the same problem with a usb mouse. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-1-686 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages udev depends on: ii initscripts 2.86.ds1-4 Standard scripts needed for bootin ii libc6 2.3.5-6GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libselinux1 1.26-1 SELinux shared libraries ii lsb-base 3.0-9 Linux Standard Base 3.0 init scrip ii makedev 2.3.1-78 creates device files in /dev ii sed 4.1.4-4The GNU sed stream editor udev recommends no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#332898: udev: mouse devices doesn't work anymore without hoplug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco d'Itri a écrit : | On Oct 09, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | |I found this one: |evdev and mousedev drivers were loaded by hotplug package and new udev |version does not. | | Interesting. evdev is not supposed to be loaded even by hotplug (it's in | the default blacklist), but what happens if you add this to the top of | /etc/init.d/udev? | | modprobe mousedev | sleep 1 After testing the two solutions, it still doesn't load usbmouse and psmouse if they're not in /etc/modules. It seems that my usb mouse can work with only mousedev loaded, but not the touchpad. It also seems that, with my xorg/X configurationi, evdev must be load to make Xorg/X work. Regards, - -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDSTdqvFPzBBlIZMMRAkOxAJwMVzG7PViKqKGQMBzMKz8RFK6IDQCbBOLp aoRVdEtqGIZ6jrk8p5NRurw= =hbK2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Bug#332898: udev: mouse devices doesn't work anymore without hoplug
On Oct 09, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After testing the two solutions, it still doesn't load usbmouse and psmouse if they're not in /etc/modules. It seems that my usb mouse can It's not supposed to load usbmouse at all, it's blacklisted and you do not need it. The proper driver for USB input devices is usbhid. work with only mousedev loaded, but not the touchpad. Touchpads are PS/2 devices and need psmouse. It also seems that, with my xorg/X configurationi, evdev must be load to make Xorg/X work. I am working on a fix to automatically load mousedev and evdev, but I cannot explain why on your system psmouse is still not being loaded (did you modify hotplug.rules as I suggested?). -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#332898: udev: mouse devices doesn't work anymore without hoplug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco d'Itri a écrit : | On Oct 09, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | |After testing the two solutions, it still doesn't load usbmouse and |psmouse if they're not in /etc/modules. It seems that my usb mouse can | | It's not supposed to load usbmouse at all, it's blacklisted and you do | not need it. The proper driver for USB input devices is usbhid. After a short test I don't need usbmouse when mousedev is loaded. |work with only mousedev loaded, but not the touchpad. | | Touchpads are PS/2 devices and need psmouse. I remember I added psmouse in /etc/modules before hotplug take care of it. |It also seems that, with my xorg/X configurationi, evdev must be load to |make Xorg/X work. | | I am working on a fix to automatically load mousedev and evdev, but I | cannot explain why on your system psmouse is still not being loaded | (did you modify hotplug.rules as I suggested?). Yes, it doesn't work even if mousedev and evdev are already loaded. I didn't notice 'evdev' requirement before, and I have not the problem on another configuration with an old radeon card. Perhaps that's a side effect of nvidia proprietary driver. Regards, - -- Encolpe DEGOUTE http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/ Logiciels libres, hockey sur glace et autres activités cérébrales -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDSURuvFPzBBlIZMMRAqI+AJsEs6tcx72rYWKS/a6Zx3YbsN1riACbBahv RflD+mBDEfXdZgiQam5bORE= =24AI -END PGP SIGNATURE-