Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:45:16AM -0400, Bdale Garbee wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [ 2 ] Choice 1: the output of md5sum should be changed as per bug #341839 [ 1 ] Choice 2: the output of md5sum should not change despite bug #341839 [ 3 ] Choice 3: Further discussion - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- We have a de facto standard behavior today that is shared among coreutils upstream, coreutils in Debian, and other analogous tools such as sha1sum, sha256sum, and sha512sum. While the TC has the authority to change the behavior of these tools within Debian, we do not have the authority to get them changed upstream, and the coreutils maintainer does not agree that this is a correct technical solution; so at best, overriding the maintainer in this case would result in inconsistent behavior between Debian and upstream. The benefits of this change are not so great that divergence from upstream is warranted. However, I don't believe any further discussion is likely to be of benefit either, so I have ranked further discussion last. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format
Hi, I think that maintaining compatibility counts for more than not doing so. - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [ 2 ] Choice 1: the output of md5sum should be changed as per bug #341839 [ 1 ] Choice 2: the output of md5sum should not change despite bug #341839 [ 3 ] Choice 3: Further discussion - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Since I am at Debconf, I do not have read access to my keys; I'll sign this mail in a week or so if doing so is critical. manoj -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bdale Garbee) writes: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [ 3 ] Choice 1: the output of md5sum should be changed as per bug #341839 [ 1 ] Choice 2: the output of md5sum should not change despite bug #341839 [ 2 ] Choice 3: Further discussion - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I don't have a strong personal opinion on this question. Given that, I choose to let the package maintainer's decision stand. Bdale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format
Bdale Garbee writes (Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format): As Anthony noted in his early March summary of open issues, the current md5sum behavior matches the formats used by upstream, and by related tools such as sha1sum, sha256sum, and sha512sum. He suggested that we should rescind the previous TC decision in favor of existing practice, which means ranking choice 2 on this ballot first. Obviously my view is that sha*sum should have the behaviour specified in the previous resolution. - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [ 1 ] Choice 1: the output of md5sum should be changed as per bug #341839 [ 3 ] Choice 2: the output of md5sum should not change despite bug #341839 [ 2 ] Choice 3: Further discussion - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:45:16AM -0400, Bdale Garbee wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [ 3 ] Choice 1: the output of md5sum should be changed as per bug #341839 [ 1 ] Choice 2: the output of md5sum should not change despite bug #341839 [ 2 ] Choice 3: Further discussion - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This horse has bolted already. ] * Don't worry if md5sum from stdin adds a - after the md5sum. Should ] make debootstrap more usable on non-Debian Linuxes. ] -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:38:35 +1000 Cheers, aj signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format
Anthony Towns writes (Re: Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format): This horse has bolted already. ] * Don't worry if md5sum from stdin adds a - after the md5sum. Should ] make debootstrap more usable on non-Debian Linuxes. ] -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:38:35 +1000 debootstrap is far from the only script that needs to deal with the output from md5sum. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#341839: Call for vote: coreutils: md5sum output format
I hereby call for an immediate TC vote on the question of what md5sum's output format should be, requested by bug #341839. As Anthony noted in his early March summary of open issues, the current md5sum behavior matches the formats used by upstream, and by related tools such as sha1sum, sha256sum, and sha512sum. He suggested that we should rescind the previous TC decision in favor of existing practice, which means ranking choice 2 on this ballot first. Since this vote may overrule a developer, 6.1.3 of our Constitution requires a 3:1 majority of the TC for choice 1. However, a simple majority will suffice for choice 2 to defeat further discussion. In the brackets next to your preferred choice, place a 1. Place a 2 in the brackets next to your next choice. Continue until you reach your last choice. Do not enter a number smaller than 1 or larger than 3. You may skip numbers. You may rank options equally (as long as all choices X you make fall in the range 1 = X = 3). To vote no, no matter what rank Further discussion as more desirable than the unacceptable choices, or You may rank the Further discussion choice, and leave choices you consider unacceptable blank. Unranked choices are considered equally the least desired choices, and ranked below all ranked choices. (Note: if the Further Discussion choice is unranked, then it is equal to all other unranked choices, if any.) - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [ ] Choice 1: the output of md5sum should be changed as per bug #341839 [ ] Choice 2: the output of md5sum should not change despite bug #341839 [ ] Choice 3: Further discussion - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bdale pgpdSNhYuAB4z.pgp Description: PGP signature
