Bug#342529: tetex-bin: xdvi unnecessarily noisy

2005-12-08 Thread Michael Piefel
Package: tetex-bin
Version: 3.0-10.1
Severity: minor

xdvi, startet from a terminal, gives a number of warning messages which
are mostly unnecessary, such as 
xdvi: First page of DVI file
  or
xdvi: Last page of DVI file
  or
xdvi: Horizontal scrolling not possible

Additionally, it beeps for every such message. To me, this is a nuisance
without added benefit.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.14-1-686-smp
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages tetex-bin depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]1.4.59  Debian configuration management sy
ii  debianutils  2.15.1  Miscellaneous utilities specific t
ii  dpkg 1.13.11.0.1 package maintenance system for Deb
ii  ed   0.2-20  The classic unix line editor
ii  libc62.3.5-8.1   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libgcc1  1:4.0.2-4   GCC support library
ii  libice6  6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libkpathsea4 3.0-10.1path search library for teTeX (run
ii  libpaper11.1.14-3Library for handling paper charact
ii  libpng12-0   1.2.8rel-5  PNG library - runtime
ii  libsm6   6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System Session Management
ii  libstdc++6   4.0.2-4 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libt1-5  5.1.0-2 Type 1 font rasterizer library - r
ii  libx11-6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxaw8  6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Athena widget set library
ii  libxext6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  libxmu6  6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System miscellaneous util
ii  libxp6   6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System printing extension
ii  libxpm4  6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X pixmap library
ii  libxt6   6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Toolkit Intrinsics
ii  mime-support 3.35-1  MIME files 'mime.types'  'mailcap
ii  perl 5.8.7-8 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  sed  4.1.4-4 The GNU sed stream editor
ii  tetex-base   3.0-10  Basic library files of teTeX
ii  ucf  2.003   Update Configuration File: preserv
ii  xlibs6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System client libraries m
ii  zlib1g   1:1.2.3-8   compression library - runtime

Versions of packages tetex-bin recommends:
ii  dialog1.0-20051107-1 Displays user-friendly dialog boxe
ii  libxml-parser-perl2.34-4 Perl module for parsing XML files
ii  perl-tk   1:800.025-2Perl module providing the Tk graph
ii  psutils   1.17-21A collection of PostScript documen

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Bug#342529: tetex-bin: xdvi unnecessarily noisy

2005-12-08 Thread Frank Küster
Michael Piefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Package: tetex-bin
 Version: 3.0-10.1
 Severity: minor

 xdvi, startet from a terminal, gives a number of warning messages which
 are mostly unnecessary, such as 
 xdvi: First page of DVI file
   or
 xdvi: Last page of DVI file
   or
 xdvi: Horizontal scrolling not possible

 Additionally, it beeps for every such message. To me, this is a nuisance
 without added benefit.

Hm, strange.  This is not the case here.  Can you please describe in
detail how you invoke xdvi and what you do in it?

What's the output of the following commands:

which xdvi
/usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display xdvi.bin

Regards, Frank
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Frank Küster
Inst. f. Biochemie der Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer




Bug#342529: tetex-bin: xdvi unnecessarily noisy

2005-12-08 Thread Michael Piefel
Am Donnerstag, den 08.12.2005, 13:05 +0100 schrieb Frank Küster:
 Hm, strange.  This is not the case here.  Can you please describe in
 detail how you invoke xdvi and what you do in it?

$ xdvi [Press 'r' in xdvi to reload page]
xdvi: Horizontal scrolling not possible

 What's the output of the following commands:
This time, I didn’t touch anything:

$ which xdvi  /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display xdvi.bin
/usr/bin/xdvi
xdvi.bin - status is auto.
 link currently points to /usr/bin/xdvi.real
/usr/bin/xdvi.real - priority 30
Current `best' version is /usr/bin/xdvi.real.


I have also set some X resources:
XDvi.expert:true
XDvi.shrinkFactor:  7

Both look inconspicuous to me. But they aren’t. The messages I mentioned
are shown in the main window when not in expert mode, but are needlessly
printed on the console in expert mode.

And it still beeps.

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Bug#342529: tetex-bin: xdvi unnecessarily noisy

2005-12-08 Thread Frank Küster
retitle 342529 xdvi unnecessarily noisy in expert mode
forwared 342529 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1376354group_id=23164atid=377580
thanks

Michael Piefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have also set some X resources:
 XDvi.expert:true
 XDvi.shrinkFactor:  7

 Both look inconspicuous to me. But they aren’t. The messages I mentioned
 are shown in the main window when not in expert mode, but are needlessly
 printed on the console in expert mode.

 And it still beeps.

I have submitted all this to the xdvik BTS at the URL indicated above.
Please try it, I hope it doesn't contain my login information in some
hidden way.

Regards, Frank
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Frank Küster
Inst. f. Biochemie der Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer




Bug#342529: tetex-bin: xdvi unnecessarily noisy

2005-12-08 Thread Hilmar Preuße
forwarded 342529 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1376354group_id=23164atid=377580
thanks


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Bug#342529: tetex-bin: xdvi unnecessarily noisy

2005-12-08 Thread Stefan Ulrich
Michael Piefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 $ xdvi [Press 'r' in xdvi to reload page]
 xdvi: Horizontal scrolling not possible

Actually that's quite a good example for how such output *could* be
helpful if users didn't ignore it ;-) 'R' reloads the file, 'r' scrolls
the page to the right ...

Some of these messages about failed navigation are only enabled in the
Xaw version which has very little visual feedback by default.  Current
users are probably more accustomed to 'responsive' GUIs, and annoyed
by these messages. I should probably disable those that can occur
during normal page navigation.

 The messages I mentioned are shown in the main window when not in
 expert mode, but are needlessly printed on the console in expert
 mode.

You can disable those messages with '-hushstdout' (see the man
page for details).

Hmm, there's also a '-hush' option that suppresses all warnings,
but doesn't affect the statusline messages; it probably should,
I'll change that.

 And it still beeps.

Maybe there could be a 'hushbell' option to disable the beeps ...
beeping still seems common in programs like eg. xpdf and acroread
which both eg. beep when trying to go to the previous page at the
first page of a document, so I'd say it's a reasonable default.

Best,
Stefan


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