Bug#342704: please remove ocaml-native-compilers/hppa from unstable

2006-01-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 17:54:42 +, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:

> - Did you try the debian-hppa list whether there are hppa porters
>   willing to work on this? When dealing with arch-specific issues, they
>   should at least be informed so that they can make a choice between
>   dropping support in this way for ocaml, or fixing the support where
>   the package maintainers and upstream are unable and/or unwilling to do
>   so.

As said, this is now done, and there has been no answer from the porters
yet. Of course, if someone steps up and manages to fix ocamlopt on hppa,
we can readd it later. However, I don't think that can happen in the
short term.

> - What to do with packages like slat and confluence, that seem to fail
>   to build for hppa with this package removed? I think they should be
>   transitioned to alternatives, or otherwise also for those packages,
>   the hppa support should be dropped. This should happen at the same
>   time in any case, I do not intend to whack-a-mole multiple times in
>   the future for reverse-(build)-dependendencies of this package.
> 
confluence is now fixed, and a bug is filed against slat.
The other packages affected by this are ara and whitelister, which only
build arch-specific debs on architectures where ocamlopt is available,
so their hppa deb is now NBS. I asked the maintainers to update the
Architecture field of their package.

Is there something else you need (or would like) me to do?

Cheers,
Julien


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Bug#342704: please remove ocaml-native-compilers/hppa from unstable

2006-01-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jan  4, 2006 at 00:54:38 +, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:

> Please do, porters should at least be informed, and get a chance to
> comment, and to fix the issue at hand.
> 
Agreed, and mailed debian-hppa:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2006/01/msg7.html

> > I don't think these packages should build-depend on
> > ocaml-native-compilers. The ocaml-nox package provides compilers on all
> > debian architectures, and should be used instead IMO. The compilation
> > speed increase provided by the native compilers is probably not
> > necessary. (As a side note, I don't understand why slat build-depends on
> > ocaml at all.)
> 
> Please file bugs on those packages, then.
> 
done: 345879 (slat) and 345887 (confluence)

There probably will be other removals needed, such as spamoracle (I
don't know of others, but they may exist).

Cheers,
Julien Cristau


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Bug#342704: please remove ocaml-native-compilers/hppa from unstable

2006-01-03 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 04:03:08PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 17:54:42 +, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> 
> > Two questions:
> > - Did you try the debian-hppa list whether there are hppa porters
> >   willing to work on this? When dealing with arch-specific issues, they
> >   should at least be informed so that they can make a choice between
> >   dropping support in this way for ocaml, or fixing the support where
> >   the package maintainers and upstream are unable and/or unwilling to do
> >   so.
> 
> I didn't do that, because I thought that having this deb removed was
> necessary for ocaml to go in etch, and because ocaml was keeping kde out
> of etch. I'll do so now, if you think that's necessary.

Please do, porters should at least be informed, and get a chance to
comment, and to fix the issue at hand.

> > - What to do with packages like slat and confluence, that seem to fail
> >   to build for hppa with this package removed? I think they should be
> >   transitioned to alternatives, or otherwise also for those packages,
> >   the hppa support should be dropped. This should happen at the same
> >   time in any case, I do not intend to whack-a-mole multiple times in
> >   the future for reverse-(build)-dependendencies of this package.
>
> I don't think these packages should build-depend on
> ocaml-native-compilers. The ocaml-nox package provides compilers on all
> debian architectures, and should be used instead IMO. The compilation
> speed increase provided by the native compilers is probably not
> necessary. (As a side note, I don't understand why slat build-depends on
> ocaml at all.)

Please file bugs on those packages, then.

Thanks,
--Jeroen

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Bug#342704: please remove ocaml-native-compilers/hppa from unstable

2006-01-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 17:54:42 +, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:

> Two questions:
> - Did you try the debian-hppa list whether there are hppa porters
>   willing to work on this? When dealing with arch-specific issues, they
>   should at least be informed so that they can make a choice between
>   dropping support in this way for ocaml, or fixing the support where
>   the package maintainers and upstream are unable and/or unwilling to do
>   so.

I didn't do that, because I thought that having this deb removed was
necessary for ocaml to go in etch, and because ocaml was keeping kde out
of etch. I'll do so now, if you think that's necessary.

> - What to do with packages like slat and confluence, that seem to fail
>   to build for hppa with this package removed? I think they should be
>   transitioned to alternatives, or otherwise also for those packages,
>   the hppa support should be dropped. This should happen at the same
>   time in any case, I do not intend to whack-a-mole multiple times in
>   the future for reverse-(build)-dependendencies of this package.
> 
I don't think these packages should build-depend on
ocaml-native-compilers. The ocaml-nox package provides compilers on all
debian architectures, and should be used instead IMO. The compilation
speed increase provided by the native compilers is probably not
necessary. (As a side note, I don't understand why slat build-depends on
ocaml at all.)

Cheers,
Julien Cristau


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Bug#342704: please remove ocaml-native-compilers/hppa from unstable

2005-12-29 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
tags 342704 moreinfo
thanks

On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:48:00PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> Hi ftpmasters,
> 
> the ocaml native compilers on hppa don't build anymore, and upstream
> said:
> "This is due to architectural limitations of HPPA.  Too hard to fix
> without control of the linker,
> and the HPPA port is essentially dead as far as we are concerned."
> 
> Therefore, I request removal of the ocaml-native-compilers package on
> hppa, which is not built from source as of ocaml 3.09.0-4.

Two questions:
- Did you try the debian-hppa list whether there are hppa porters
  willing to work on this? When dealing with arch-specific issues, they
  should at least be informed so that they can make a choice between
  dropping support in this way for ocaml, or fixing the support where
  the package maintainers and upstream are unable and/or unwilling to do
  so.
- What to do with packages like slat and confluence, that seem to fail
  to build for hppa with this package removed? I think they should be
  transitioned to alternatives, or otherwise also for those packages,
  the hppa support should be dropped. This should happen at the same
  time in any case, I do not intend to whack-a-mole multiple times in
  the future for reverse-(build)-dependendencies of this package.

--Jeroen

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Bug#342704: please remove ocaml-native-compilers/hppa from unstable

2005-12-20 Thread Julien Cristau
reassign 342704 ftp.debian.org
severity 342704 important
retitle 342704 RM: ocaml:ocaml-native-compilers [hppa] -- RoM; ANAIS; 
unsupported upstream
kthxbye

Hi ftpmasters,

the ocaml native compilers on hppa don't build anymore, and upstream
said:
"This is due to architectural limitations of HPPA.  Too hard to fix
without control of the linker,
and the HPPA port is essentially dead as far as we are concerned."

Therefore, I request removal of the ocaml-native-compilers package on
hppa, which is not built from source as of ocaml 3.09.0-4.

Thanks,
Julien Cristau


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