Bug#347899: amoeba: works only with direct rendering
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 03:40:46PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: 3) if you really decide to not change the behaviour, you should state in the package description that the package will refuse to work when DRI is not available (it is frustrating to download and istall 52Mb of useless package!) grubgrub:~ apt-cache show amoeba | grep ^Size: Size: 92690 grubgrub:~ apt-cache show amoeba-data | grep ^Size: Size: 3198496 sorry :- I was confused by aptitude, that maybe was installing/deleting other stuff as well a. -- Andrea Mennucc Ukn ow,Ifina llyfixe dmysp acebar.ohwh atthef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#347899: amoeba: works only with direct rendering
Package: amoeba Version: 1.1-16 Severity: normal hi I tried amoeba and the result was $ amoeba ERROR! sizeof(SISDRIRec) does not match passed size from device driver libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs. libGL error: InitDriver failed libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering Unhandled exception: No direct rendering (hardware acceleration) available! (Check libGL.so.* symlinks) The first 4 lines are OK for me: for some reason Xorg 6.9 broke direct rendering here. The last line is a surprise: why does amoeba fail to run? I can understand that it would complain about lacking DRI, but failing to run is too draconian a. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=it_IT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages amoeba depends on: ii amoeba-data 1.1-5 Fast-paced, polished OpenGL demons ii libc62.3.5-11GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libexpat11.95.8-3XML parsing C library - runtime li ii libfreetype6 2.1.7-2.4 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libgcc1 1:4.0.2-5 GCC support library ii libglu1-xorg [libglu1c2] 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 Mesa OpenGL utility library [X.Org ii libjpeg626b-11 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG ii libogg0 1.1.2-1 Ogg Bitstream Library ii libpng12-0 1.2.8rel-5 PNG library - runtime ii libstdc++6 4.0.2-5 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libvorbis0a 1.1.0-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi ii libvorbisfile3 1.1.0-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi ii libx11-6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System protocol client li ii libxext6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Window System miscellaneous exte ii libxxf86vm1 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 X Video Mode selection library ii xlibmesa-gl [libgl1] 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2 Mesa 3D graphics library [X.Org] ii xlibs6.9.0.dfsg.1-2 X Window System client libraries m ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3-9 compression library - runtime Versions of packages amoeba recommends: ii libgtk1.2 1.2.10-18 The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets fo -- no debconf information -- Andrea Mennucc E' un mondo difficile. Che vita intensa! (Tonino Carotone) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#347899: amoeba: works only with direct rendering
tags 347899 wontfix thanks On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 01:08:29PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: The last line is a surprise: why does amoeba fail to run? Because you have no way at all of getting proper sync or the required performance with indirect rendering. The software is basically useless, so it's a lot better just aborting with a proper error message (so the user can detect and fix the problem) instead of trying a half-assed run. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#347899: amoeba: works only with direct rendering
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 01:28:42PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: tags 347899 wontfix thanks On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 01:08:29PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: The last line is a surprise: why does amoeba fail to run? Because you have no way at all of getting proper sync or the required performance with indirect rendering. The software is basically useless, so it's a lot better just aborting with a proper error message (so the user can detect and fix the problem) instead of trying a half-assed run. I have a few objections and suggestions: objection 1) there may be an example of PCa: old CPU with crappy video cards with GL DRI PCb: new CPU with no DRI where GL is slower on PCa than PCb (PCa = my notebook, when DRI was working with Xorg 6.8 PCb = my desktop ) 2) when DRI is not present, it would be nicer to print a huge warning No DRI (Direct Rendering) is available for your vide card/video drivers! You will not gett proper sync or the required performance with indirect rendering! The software is basically useless. Do you want to continue? Why do not leave that decision up to the user?? 3) if you really decide to not change the behaviour, you should state in the package description that the package will refuse to work when DRI is not available (it is frustrating to download and istall 52Mb of useless package!) a. -- Andrea Mennucc Ukn ow,Ifina llyfixe dmysp acebar.ohwh atthef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#347899: amoeba: works only with direct rendering
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 02:20:55PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: PCa: old CPU with crappy video cards with GL DRI PCb: new CPU with no DRI where GL is slower on PCa than PCb (PCa = my notebook, when DRI was working with Xorg 6.8 PCb = my desktop ) But slow != sync. Indirect rendering has a huge problem with syncing properly to the sound, from my experience. 3) if you really decide to not change the behaviour, you should state in the package description that the package will refuse to work when DRI is not available (it is frustrating to download and istall 52Mb of useless package!) grubgrub:~ apt-cache show amoeba | grep ^Size: Size: 92690 grubgrub:~ apt-cache show amoeba-data | grep ^Size: Size: 3198496 /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
