Bug#349173: bcron: provide a virtual package cron-service

2006-02-06 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 09:03:45PM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 02:51:05PM +, Gerrit Pape wrote:
  When introducing the bcron/bcron-run packages I made the
  bcron-run package
  
   Provides: cron
   Replaces: cron
   Conflicts: cron
  
  for that reason, and filed
  
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304038
  
  I didn't know about a virtual package 'cron-service' until now.  Is it
  really necessary, or should logrotate simply drop the version from the
  dependency?
 
 Looks like this conversation is going around in circles.  See:
 
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=349150

Yep.  To get this forward I should now really have bcron-run provide
cron-service?  Checking the current list of virtual packages, it rather
suggests cron-daemon, and actually I'd mostly prefer my suggestion, to
have logrotate simply drop the version restriction from Depends: cron.

 $ w3m -dump 
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt 
|grep cron
   25 Jun 2004 Added cron-daemon
 $  

Regards, Gerrit.


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Bug#349173: bcron: provide a virtual package cron-service

2006-01-30 Thread Gerrit Pape
reassign 349173 bcron-run
quit

On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 06:27:50PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Otherwise logrotate needs to depend on cron | anacron | fcron | bcron |
 etc.

Hi, where's exactly documented which functionality a package providing
'cron-service' must support, so that I can check whether bcron-run meets
the requirements?

Thanks, Gerrit.


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Bug#349173: bcron: provide a virtual package cron-service

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 02:03:21PM +, Gerrit Pape wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 06:27:50PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Otherwise logrotate needs to depend on cron | anacron | fcron | bcron |
  etc.
 
 Hi, where's exactly documented which functionality a package providing
 'cron-service' must support, so that I can check whether bcron-run meets
 the requirements?

I'm really not sure the requirements need be much more formal than
whatever logrotate needs which (I believe) is merely /etc/cron.daily/.

It is important for logrotate to be installable with bcron because lots
of services install stuff into /etc/logrotate.d/ because they haven't
been converted over to svlogd yet.

Ultimately, it won't matter because logrotate will be obsoleted by
svlogd.  In the short term, however, interoperability is crucial to ease
the gradual runit  svlogd migration.


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Bug#349173: bcron: provide a virtual package cron-service

2006-01-30 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 07:49:15PM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 02:03:21PM +, Gerrit Pape wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 06:27:50PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Otherwise logrotate needs to depend on cron | anacron | fcron | bcron |
   etc.
  
  Hi, where's exactly documented which functionality a package providing
  'cron-service' must support, so that I can check whether bcron-run meets
  the requirements?
 
 I'm really not sure the requirements need be much more formal than
 whatever logrotate needs which (I believe) is merely /etc/cron.daily/.
 
 It is important for logrotate to be installable with bcron because lots
 of services install stuff into /etc/logrotate.d/ because they haven't
 been converted over to svlogd yet.
 
 Ultimately, it won't matter because logrotate will be obsoleted by
 svlogd.  In the short term, however, interoperability is crucial to ease
 the gradual runit  svlogd migration.

Yes, true.  When introducing the bcron/bcron-run packages I made the
bcron-run package

 Provides: cron
 Replaces: cron
 Conflicts: cron

for that reason, and filed

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304038

I didn't know about a virtual package 'cron-service' until now.  Is it
really necessary, or should logrotate simply drop the version from the
dependency?

Regards, Gerrit.


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Bug#349173: bcron: provide a virtual package cron-service

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 02:51:05PM +, Gerrit Pape wrote:
 When introducing the bcron/bcron-run packages I made the
 bcron-run package
 
  Provides: cron
  Replaces: cron
  Conflicts: cron
 
 for that reason, and filed
 
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304038
 
 I didn't know about a virtual package 'cron-service' until now.  Is it
 really necessary, or should logrotate simply drop the version from the
 dependency?

Looks like this conversation is going around in circles.  See:

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=349150


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Bug#349173: bcron: provide a virtual package cron-service

2006-01-21 Thread joshua
Package: bcron
Version: 0.09-3
Severity: minor

Otherwise logrotate needs to depend on cron | anacron | fcron | bcron |
etc.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.14-b1
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

Versions of packages bcron depends on:
ii  libc6 2.3.5-3GNU C Library: Shared libraries an

-- no debconf information


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